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Drunk in public?
July 26, 2005 | self / vanity

Posted on 07/26/2005 1:37:14 PM PDT by The Other Harry

There seem to be three main infractions or violations involved with drinking. As a veteran drinker, all are relevant to me

There is DUI (driving under the influence), drunk in public, and drinking in public. Let’s take them one at a time, based on my conversations while in jail for a DUI. Most of those conversations were with people who know more about this than I do.

A DUI is the most serious, as it should be.

Still, there is ambiguity. Driving what, where? A bicycle? A horse cart? One of my cellmates once got busted for driving his car in a Wall-Mart parking lot.

You would think “drunk in public” and “drinking in public” would be obvious, but they are not.

We (my cellmates and I) got into a protracted discussion about the meaning of “in public”. The general consensus was that it means whatever the police want it to mean at the time. In other words, you could theoretically be arrested for “drunk in public” or “drinking in public” if you are in your own home at 11:00 at night. That’s not likely, but they could do it.

This all reminds me of the recent eminent domain decision by the Supreme Court. Whose house is this? Whose property is this?

I used to do my gardening, then go out, sit on the front step, have a drink, and study the fruits of my efforts. There was no harm there.

I will no longer do that.

My own opinion is that some law is good, but we are going too far.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: alcohol; harrysnakedanddrunk

1 posted on 07/26/2005 1:37:15 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry

I prefer DWI - Driving With (an) Indian.


2 posted on 07/26/2005 1:41:19 PM PDT by b4its2late (Suicidal Blond Twin Kills Sister By Mistake!)
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To: The Other Harry

I like the way you always put your vanities in "Chat." So many people aren't that courteous.

I sometimes carry a glass of wine across the street to visit with the neighbors. Guess I'd be in trouble if the Deputy Sheriff happened by right then.


3 posted on 07/26/2005 1:41:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: The Other Harry

I once combined a DUI with the mighty UBAL (unlawfull blood alcohol level) making a felony.

As far as people drinking in their own homes or in their yards the law should back off.


4 posted on 07/26/2005 1:42:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: b4its2late

Williams and Ree fan?


5 posted on 07/26/2005 1:42:31 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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To: Tax-chick
I sometimes carry a glass of wine across the street to visit with the neighbors

I couldn't find my way across the street to my neighbors without one in my hand. It's like my own little personal GPS.

6 posted on 07/26/2005 1:44:55 PM PDT by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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To: The Other Harry

When I was in the Navy, one of my buddies got three hits at once on base: A DUI, speeding and running a stop sign... on a bicycle.

Yes, he was blitzed and yes, he was going over the 10 MPH limit and yes, he ran the sign.

But... Come On!


7 posted on 07/26/2005 1:47:40 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: ShadowDancer

LOL! The previous folks across the street were anti-social, but the new people sit in their garage and drink beer in the evening :-).


8 posted on 07/26/2005 1:47:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: ShadowDancer

9 posted on 07/26/2005 1:50:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: The Other Harry
We (my cellmates and I) got into a protracted discussion about the meaning of “in public”

LOL
10 posted on 07/26/2005 1:50:26 PM PDT by PaulaB (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile .. hoping it will eat him last--Winston Churchill)
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To: The Other Harry

Who wants the obligatory shot at fat Ted?


11 posted on 07/26/2005 1:50:43 PM PDT by quantim (I'm at the point now where I refer to all liberals as "insurgents.")
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To: The Other Harry

12 posted on 07/26/2005 1:52:32 PM PDT by PaulaB (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile .. hoping it will eat him last--Winston Churchill)
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To: The Other Harry
One of my cellmates once got busted for driving his car in a Wall-Mart parking lot.

Good. There are probably more little kids running around there than on the roads.

Personally, I regard DWI as equivalent to felony reckless endangerment.

13 posted on 07/26/2005 1:52:58 PM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: quantim

14 posted on 07/26/2005 1:53:41 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: The Other Harry; Owl_Eagle; Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Please add us to your ping list if you have one. If not, would you please consider starting one?

Thanks.

15 posted on 07/26/2005 1:53:48 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Would the Professionally Offended just go home and get drunk, or something?"--Tax-chick)
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To: The Other Harry
Still, there is ambiguity. Driving what, where? A bicycle? A horse cart? One of my cellmates once got busted for driving his car in a Wall-Mart parking lot.

There's no ambiguity, really: the idea is to punish those whose inebriated state causes them and their conveyance to pose a danger to others. You can easily think of scenarios for each of the named vehicles where "drunk driving" will pose such a danger.

"Drinking in public" is one of those where the threshold is most likely defined as "it's causing a problem." In some cases (such as where it's clearly marked as prohibited), there's no ambiguity. Drinking and obnoxious in a crowd seems generally to consist of a first warning, with a ticket to follow if the problem persists.

Drunk in public is pretty straightforward if the fellow's passed out or vomiting, or running into people.

16 posted on 07/26/2005 1:54:46 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: The Other Harry
As a veteran drinker, all are relevant to me

Veteran drinker? Have you quit?

17 posted on 07/26/2005 1:56:19 PM PDT by chapin2500
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To: The Other Harry
Otis, is that you?


18 posted on 07/26/2005 1:58:53 PM PDT by Feiny (Why won't liberals try practicing random acts of intelligence and senseless acts of self-control?)
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To: The Other Harry

I wasn't drunk in Publi-----CK!

They caught the tater


Harry some days its just worth it to follow your antics.

Thanks

Did you get that first aid kit squared away?


19 posted on 07/26/2005 2:00:16 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (<><)
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To: cripplecreek

They call me Tater Salad....


20 posted on 07/26/2005 2:03:10 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: cripplecreek

My thought as well. In....pub..lik. LOL


21 posted on 07/26/2005 2:35:45 PM PDT by doodad
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To: The Other Harry
I drink what I want when I want on my property, as I please.

They may come and take me away as they please; everyone has a function in the universe; I do my job, they do their's.

It is not illegal to be drunk as a skunk, unless there is a cop present. Anywhere, including your domicile. I find it helpful to not create situations whereby I need to deal with law enforcement personnel when I am legless.
22 posted on 07/26/2005 2:37:47 PM PDT by mmercier (They are coming to take me away haha)
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To: The Other Harry

I live in a boating community, tuff to find anyone NOT drinking in their yard!!


23 posted on 07/26/2005 2:38:43 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: Sam's Army; The Other Harry; Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Please add us to your ping list if you have one. If not, would you please consider starting one?

I can verify that Sam speaks for the three of us. A The Other Harry Vanity Ping list is needed.

24 posted on 07/26/2005 2:53:10 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; The Other Harry; Jersey Republican Biker Chick
A The Other Harry Vanity Ping list is needed.

I want on that ping list too !!!!!!

25 posted on 07/26/2005 3:20:23 PM PDT by dfwddr (Spelling by Heineken)
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To: The Other Harry

"As a veteran drinker, all are relevant to me"


Veteran drinker, eh? Interesting word choice. Is that your way of saying you've turned pro?


26 posted on 07/26/2005 6:44:34 PM PDT by Rightfootforward
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To: The Other Harry
Got one for you, Harry. These dames were busted for pushing a car while drunk.

Women Face DUI Charges For Pushing Car

Drunken driving can also be drunken pushing -- at least to police in Portage, Ind.

Kaylyn Kezy and Melissa Fredenburg both face DUI charges after the car they were pushing crashed into a parked car. Police said the women took turns pushing the non-running car while the other steered.

After the accident, officers said both women tested with a blood-alcohol level more than twice the legal limit.

Prosecutor Adam Burroughs admitted the case might be a tough one to prove in court. But he noted that the women were in effect operating the vehicle -- even though the car wasn't running at the time.

27 posted on 07/27/2005 12:06:09 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
Prosecutor Adam Burroughs admitted the case might be a tough one to prove in court. But he noted that the women were in effect operating the vehicle -- even though the car wasn't running at the time.

It may be tough for the state to prove in court, but the problem on the defendant's side is the cost of arguing.

Where I live (central Virginia), the cost of arguing with an attorney (which you pretty much need), is a minimum of $1000. So even if you "win", you lose.

Interesting article. Thanks!

28 posted on 07/28/2005 7:01:19 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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