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Nascar Nextel Cup Allstate 400 Race at the Brick / Indianapolis on NBC Sunday 8/7 , 2pm ET - 11am PT
Nascar.com ^ | 8/3/05

Posted on 08/03/2005 5:40:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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Now that I look at the last lap times, a lot of slow laps. Could be weather related looking at the glocksters radar.


101 posted on 08/06/2005 6:35:35 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: fideist
I am gone until this afternoon. Bummer, with so much NASCAR stuff going on this morning.

DITTOS!!! double bummer

102 posted on 08/06/2005 6:38:37 AM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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They're back on track.

Mears (JDT "C" team pick)
Hamilton Jr (who has been dubbed on another board as oompa loompa)
Skinner
Ham Sr or OL Sr
Awesome Bill
Said (no wreck it appears) We'll see what Sais says
Schrader
Lepage
Rocket
Crash
KK
Biff
Mini Jr
Octane 93

This is after 1 hour 8 minutes and the most laps run by Mayfield being 20.


103 posted on 08/06/2005 7:07:32 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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Note: doubtful anyone has made a qualifying run yet. (except for Mears) Are they going to DEI??

Inside garage scuttlebutt this week is that JJ has a great car. Wish I had known that yesterday.

The times so far mirror those of July 18 & 19 practice that I posted on last weeks thread.


104 posted on 08/06/2005 7:12:06 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal
a small portion of Dover International Speedway's concrete backstretch to buckle

And in Nascar news from Brain France, a motocross style jump will be added to the backstretch at Dover to further expand the growing fan base.

105 posted on 08/06/2005 7:29:37 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: WestCoastGal
Here's some more detail from the Dover newspaper:

Monster Mile mess: Crack in the track; Heat buckles concrete surface

106 posted on 08/06/2005 7:31:57 AM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
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To: SouthTexas

Ha ha, I saw that this morning.

I watched those monster trucks the other night jumping the dirt bumps. He could add a few more rumble or ripple strips too for a great time. Shorten the spoiler a bit more, change the gear rule again. And make the speeding on pit road penalty even more obscure than it is now. Usually it's to the end of the longest line, but if you're going 143 mph or more it's a lap penalty (usually)


107 posted on 08/06/2005 7:34:31 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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I'm now wondering if both practice sessions have been lumped into one because P-2 was supposed to start now and they haven't finished the first one.

Schrader just jumped back up to second.
MM to second
Marlin to 5th
jj from 50th to 14th
Flash & Jr still not looking good


108 posted on 08/06/2005 7:38:00 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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Oops make that MM third

Sorry watching QVC fashion day at the same time.


109 posted on 08/06/2005 7:40:02 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: Gabz

Thank you Gabz for the link.

It must have been pretty hot there to buckle the track. I also read this morning they were using sprinklers to cool it off.

Hopefully they can fix it without leaving a problem there for the cars.


110 posted on 08/06/2005 7:42:41 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal

Having lived only a few miles from the track for many years, I can attest to how hot and humid it gets there :)

I agree with the track official about the company they hired - Kent Construction is one of (if not the) best in the area. If they say they can fix it without problems for the cars, I'm inclined to believe they are correct.

I'm not abig fan of Nascar, but I know there are many here who are - so when I saw the article this morning, I thought I would pass it along - but I should have known other FReepers would have beaten me to it :)


111 posted on 08/06/2005 7:49:29 AM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
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To: Gabz

It's always nice to have first hand accounts of a story from local FReepers.

You're right there are a lot of us that follow the races every weekend.

:-)


112 posted on 08/06/2005 8:04:22 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal
Just heard on espn radio that a lot of teams are really poed when nascar made this and impound race in a decision during the middle of the week. Teams have long since based their strategy for this race on no impound and that all goes out the window. Now, they say, its back to guessing.

Baseball heads up:

Watch Zack Duke pitching against the Dodgers tonight for the Pirates (yea, Im a loser in all sports). Duke is 4-0 in 40 innings with an era of 0.92 as a rookie.

113 posted on 08/06/2005 8:06:40 AM PDT by AGreatPer
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Well they are over two hours of practice now, so the two obviously have been put together. Finally seeing a few qualifying runs now.

Shrub is up to 4th
Rocket look out he's 5th at the moment
No one else has moved up or down much.


114 posted on 08/06/2005 8:07:48 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: AGreatPer

It really sucks that they can change this impound stuff at the last minute. I wondered because I have it listed as a normal qualifying race with NO impound in my notes!!


115 posted on 08/06/2005 8:09:15 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: AGreatPer; WestCoastGal
NASCAR really fouled things up with the rain yesterday. First they said there would be 2 practices today separated by a half-hour, then qualifying. Now, it's down to the 1 mega-practice (seems that half-hour break came early).

Speaking of qualifying, first it was supposed to be carried live, but with it being moved to 4:05 pm Eastern, TNT is now delaying it until 6 pm Eastern. As for the impound/no-impound bit, I haven't heard anything on it, much less a middle-of-the-week decision (the schedule up through yesterday was that there would be a post-qualifying Happy Hour).

Indy is cursed, I tell you, CURSED!

116 posted on 08/06/2005 8:18:05 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: steveegg

Curses!!

OK, KK is up to 2nd
Vickers 4th
Bliss 5th
Mikey 6th
Flash has finally made it up to 22nd


117 posted on 08/06/2005 8:25:44 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: steveegg

Question I forgot.

Are we doing qualifying by TP or memorex?


118 posted on 08/06/2005 8:26:31 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal
We're in full Silly-Season mode. The morning update from Jayski -
119 posted on 08/06/2005 8:28:50 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: WestCoastGal

I'll go with by TP (partly because I expect to be on my way to Lake Geneva Raceway before TNT makes it halfway); Busch qualifying is set for 6:05 Eastern over on Speed.


120 posted on 08/06/2005 8:30:14 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: steveegg

Ok so 3pm our time.

I'm surprised they announced the Jr/Jr back together again tour next year since Jr was worried about how his current team would take that news. Just not a good ideal for morale.

Napa wants an unobtainable driver??? hmmmmm shall we opine on that statement?


121 posted on 08/06/2005 8:34:58 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: All

The Rocket did not blast off. Practice is finished.

SlowCasey still leads the pack
Riggs
KK
Schrader
Vickers
Bliss
Mikey (Mr Napa) I'm sticking with Auto Zone for Kenny Wallace
Rubberhead (he must have attempted a qual run)
Sadler (ditto)
Matt (ditto)
JJ (ditto)
Smoke
Shrub
Rocket (fizzled)
MM
Oompa Loompa Jr
OL Sr

snip~

Flash back to 27th ???

Jr 48th UGH


122 posted on 08/06/2005 8:41:17 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal
It was Eury that said it, and that the only opposition was from upstairs at DEI. Dale still wants in The Chase, and he's right about not wanting to announce it now.

As for the driver that NAPA wants in the #15 for them to stay, you can bet it's not either Kenseth or Sterling Marlin (who still isn't saying where he's going to be next year, but it looks like either the #07 or #43).

123 posted on 08/06/2005 8:47:51 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: WestCoastGal

The "unobtainable driver" could, however, be FastKasey; Jayski is saying that the Evernham announcement (not made yet, but expected sometime today) is that he'll be with Evernham through 2010.


124 posted on 08/06/2005 8:50:44 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: steveegg

The Nawthun Burton just said KK had the fastest car here. (I would say besides SlowCasey for qualifying anyway)

I just don't have the confidence in KK to even pick him for an "A" driver yet.

I wonder if Napa wanted one of the Hendrick drivers? Or, did they pick an unobtainable one knowing full well they couldn't get him so they could go with Mikey?

I'm going to guess DEI goes after SlowCasey and say farewell, adios and adieu to Napa. Jimmy Elledge rides back in Jr's jet with them after the races. Yes they are related but most of DEI is family anyway so what's wrong with one more in the mix?

Napa will eventually be sorry they left DEI, if they do.


125 posted on 08/06/2005 9:20:52 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: AGreatPer; GRRRRR
Found the reference to the change to impound rules (thanks ESPN) - that just added 5 to my caution-pool pick.
126 posted on 08/06/2005 9:22:10 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: steveegg; WestCoastGal
"Napa will eventually be sorry they left DEI, if they do."

I really agree with you on that.

BTW, what year is Toyota scheduled to start racing and in what? I haven't followed that at all.

127 posted on 08/06/2005 9:35:51 AM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: WestCoastGal
The Nawthun Burton just said KK had the fastest car here. (I would say besides SlowCasey for qualifying anyway)

I just don't have the confidence in KK to even pick him for an "A" driver yet.

Doesn't exactly surprise me; the 9 car has always been quick at Indy. FastKasey's just going through the sophomore slump; he'll be good to pick next year :-)

I wonder if Napa wanted one of the Hendrick drivers? Or, did they pick an unobtainable one knowing full well they couldn't get him so they could go with Mikey?

Gordon and Johnson are locked in long-term with their sponsors, and Vickers and Busch are not exactly telegenic-enough to meet NAPA's strategy. The reason I suggested FastKasey was that he has actual high-Q ratings, not merely potential (Seriesly, how many drivers do you see in commercials? There's Kenny Wallace, DJ, Mikey, Jr, and a hint of KK, Happy, and Flash, and really that's it for out-of-the-car driver commercials.)

128 posted on 08/06/2005 9:39:02 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: AGreatPer
BTW, what year is Toyota scheduled to start racing and in what? I haven't followed that at all.

Toyota's been playing it REAL close to the vest, giving out a heap of contradictory info and not publicizing the fact that they submitted the paperwork to certify the Camry for Busch/Cup use in time for a 2006 debut. It's been widely reported that the Camry will be tested at Atlanta Motor Speedway (with a trip to the Lockheed wind tunnel afterward) sometime next week, but they're busy denying that as well.

129 posted on 08/06/2005 9:45:29 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: glock rocks

NO RAIN

NO RAIN

NO RAIN


130 posted on 08/06/2005 9:53:42 AM PDT by glock rocks (give a man a program - frustrate him for a day... teach a man to program - frustrate him for life.)
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To: steveegg; AGreatPer
Ok so we're looking for a telegenic youngish unobtainable guy who can schmooze auto parts commercials.
Rocketman? Tony? Harvick?

Btw did anyone see the end of the truck race last night? Apparently Hornaday and Spencer had an ontrack 'event' and a lot of words afterwards. Jimmy was actually trying to run away from Hornaday.

131 posted on 08/06/2005 9:56:27 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal
It was one of those "racing" things with Hornaday pinning Spencer to the wall. The last restart.
132 posted on 08/06/2005 10:09:04 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: WestCoastGal
Ok so we're looking for a telegenic youngish unobtainable guy who can schmooze auto parts commercials.
Rocketman? Tony? Harvick?

Smoke would be a good speculation, though I dunno if they want the controversy that surrounds him or Happpy. Rocket is just too boring off-the-track. You could throw FastKasey's teammate into the mix :-)

133 posted on 08/06/2005 10:11:07 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: SouthTexas

Thanks, I wonder why Hornaday was mad as a wet hen then?

Spencer has really changed, he was really trying to avoid the whole situation. (at least it appeared that way from what they showed)


134 posted on 08/06/2005 10:32:42 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: steveegg

I think Jeremy is on the downhill side of the momentum peak so to speak. I'm checking all the fan sites currently to see what they are saying. No one really has a clue yet.

Many are rather annoyed that Tony Jr opened his trap about going back to CC the 8.

Rocket, boring? lol

Maybe he can go take classes like Rubberhead. DEI should have nabbed the shrub.

Busch practice is over, I think Menard came out on top. Looking forward to seeing the Auto Zone #23 with Kenny Wallace!!


135 posted on 08/06/2005 10:37:16 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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Crew chiefs blame aerodynamics for 'boring' races

INDIANAPOLIS
The refrain is the same in many NASCAR trailers here this weekend: The racing action on the stock-car tour stinks, unless you like to watch one driver dominate.

And Sunday's Allstate 400 at the Brickyard is expected to be another follow-the-leader race, dominated by one or two drivers, with the winner determined not by passing on the track but by work - and perhaps gambles, perhaps just luck - in the pits.

"Nobody can pass here - but nobody can pass anywhere," said crew chief Michael "Fatback" McSwain. "Unfortunately, if you don't come out first, second or third on the last pit stop, I don't think you'll have a chance to win here."

Only three drivers can really say they've had good seasons so far: Tony Stewart, Jimmie Johnson and Greg Biffle. For the rest, things have been topsy-turvy - or worse. To judge by the Pocono race, Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s win at Chicago wasn't a turning point in a rather dismal season. And for Jeff Gordon, there's no place to go but up.

NASCAR's new aerodynamic rules - taking away downforce and requiring Goodyear to bring softer tires -hasn't made the racing any better...


http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%


136 posted on 08/06/2005 10:38:48 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal
Spencer pinched him down going into the turn, a typical move, then Hornaday either got lose and pushed up, or IMO, intentionally ran him into the wall.

Have no clue as to why Hornaday should be irritated, he fared a lot better than Spencer did in the exchange.

Can you tell I like Jimmy Spencer?

137 posted on 08/06/2005 10:39:39 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas
"Can you tell I like Jimmy Spencer?"

I do too. I think I've mentioned it recently, but since he's been on Nascar This Morning and sometimes INC he's been a changed man!

138 posted on 08/06/2005 10:49:48 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal

Ya think it was Nascar or the cops? ;)


139 posted on 08/06/2005 10:55:36 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas

That night in jail probably had a little influence on him.

Although you see over and over people going to jail with it having no affect on their behavior whatsoever.


So, maybe a combination of both is the answer. :)


140 posted on 08/06/2005 11:03:46 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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CLUE:

DEI competition director Richie Gilmore said Saturday that the organization was eyeing a driver younger in age than Dale Earnhardt Jr., that is also very marketable and was very fast in Saturday's practice.

Nascar

141 posted on 08/06/2005 12:46:48 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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??

Riggs, who has had a contract offer from MB2 since May but was waiting on its sponsorship status, said he has set no deadline for a decision on whether to stay.(Richmond Times Dispatch)(8-6-2005)

142 posted on 08/06/2005 1:01:09 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal

Speaking of Riggs, he's out there first with a 181.357.


143 posted on 08/06/2005 1:14:30 PM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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Alrighty, qualifying has begin Riggs runs a 49.626
Skipped Edwards
Shrub takes the pole with 49.544


144 posted on 08/06/2005 1:15:35 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: Gabz; WestCoastGal

Thanks for the info, Gabz. Cool. NOT! ;-)

It's gotta be pretty warm to buckle like that. wow..

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WCG.. I like how this is working, folks all over can and do contribute .. and ya don't have to be a motor-head or a gear-head. :)


145 posted on 08/06/2005 1:15:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: steveegg

Hi Mr Statistics. You do the numbers I will do the non-existant color comentary. LOL


146 posted on 08/06/2005 1:16:37 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal

Sorry watching QVC fashion day at the same time.

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makes sign of cross in WCG's direction.

btw,, I feeeel yur pain..

wifey has an affliction for qvc and shopnbc too. :-P


147 posted on 08/06/2005 1:17:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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The fabulous prior Winston Cup Champion Terry Labonte will be up next followed by Brian Vickers who does have a contract with Hendrick and will not be a candidate for the DEI auction.


148 posted on 08/06/2005 1:19:01 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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To: WestCoastGal

I wanna be the din of the crowd in the background..

or the beer guy.. we recycle ya know.


149 posted on 08/06/2005 1:19:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

Look out it's fashion day!!!!! Wheeeee


150 posted on 08/06/2005 1:20:16 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Junebugism: "There is definitely a lot to it that will be understood down the road as it unfolds")
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