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(Vanity) One simple question about Miers (Vanity)
me | 10/10/2005 | me

Posted on 10/10/2005 7:13:24 PM PDT by birbear

I know we're all sick to death of Mier's Vanity posts. But I haven't seen this one addressed yet. Simple question. But one that will require a lot of speculation.

To be fully upfront: I'm not pleased with the Mier's nomination, but Bush is the president I helped elect, and I'll stand by him.

The question:

Why DIDN'T Bush nomiate one of the more popular, well known conservatives to be his Supreme Court nominee?

Re the question carefully.

I don't care about the reasons why he nominated Miers. And in the end, she may turn out to be the perfect justice. I'm more curious as to why Bush turned from the conventional wisdom.

He had to know it would upset the conservatives. I'm sure his advisors around him predicted this type of divisive storm around the party. So it really begs the question. Why NOT one of the other ones?


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Maybe I'm stuck on stupid, but this seems to me it should be the question we are asking ourselves.
1 posted on 10/10/2005 7:13:27 PM PDT by birbear
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To: birbear
Take a look at this, it may answer all your questions:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1499585/posts

2 posted on 10/10/2005 7:16:54 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: birbear

"Why DIDN'T Bush nomiate one of the more popular, well known conservatives to be his Supreme Court nominee?"

Taht's exactly what it comes down to for me. And why I feel it's more than a little arrogant for the RNC'ers to be bashing conservatives as "sexist and elitist" without giving us sufficient reasoning behind this.


3 posted on 10/10/2005 7:17:37 PM PDT by Betaille ("Ms. Miers's record is one of supporting a conservative position and then abandoning it." -John Fund)
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To: birbear

W does not have 51 reliably Conservative votes in the Senate, so he out-foxed everyone by nominating HM. It's a master storke!


4 posted on 10/10/2005 7:18:06 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: birbear
That question has been asked around here, and the answer seems to be that he did it to avoid a fight with the Dems. I'm sure he's thinking that his own base is much easier to deal with, because they (supposedly) have no place else to run to.
5 posted on 10/10/2005 7:18:15 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: birbear; All
IMHO, the best take so far is Thomas Sowell's.
6 posted on 10/10/2005 7:19:02 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Cedric

What message does this send to conservative judges? Do we really want to say to them that if they stand up for conservative judicial philosophy they won't be considered for the Supreme Court? In a way this forms a litmus test in and of itself. That being that if you rule on any controversial cases, you’d better rule as a liberal because otherwise you are disqualified from supreme court service.


7 posted on 10/10/2005 7:19:14 PM PDT by Betaille ("Ms. Miers's record is one of supporting a conservative position and then abandoning it." -John Fund)
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To: birbear
He's afraid of a fight.

The only question is whether it was the Dems or RINOs that caused the most trepidation.

8 posted on 10/10/2005 7:19:44 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: birbear
Maybe I'm stuck on stupid,

Maybe. I know I'm tired of the whole thing.

When do the hearings start? Let's get on with it already.

9 posted on 10/10/2005 7:20:35 PM PDT by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Cedric
It's a master storke!

You said it.

10 posted on 10/10/2005 7:20:45 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Betaille

Please direct your complaint to the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee.


11 posted on 10/10/2005 7:21:55 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Betaille

Well, I don't think the RNC can come right out and say, we've got a bunch of RINO's and lily livered Republicans in the Senate.

But everybody knows the President couldn't get his main picks through the Senate (Estrada) and had to eventually recess appoint Bolton to the UN...and it wasn't because of the Dems, but because many of the Republicans don't have a spine.

So why should we think the President should be able to push through a controversial (to the Dems that is, but also to folks like Specter or Warner) SC nominee.


12 posted on 10/10/2005 7:22:46 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: quidnunc

That's great post. well reasoned, well thought out and apparently well sourced but it won't make any difference to the Jim Jones wing of the Republican party. They've gone off of the cliff, reverted to their "terrible twos" and are irredeemable.


13 posted on 10/10/2005 7:22:58 PM PDT by Neville72
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To: quidnunc

>More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected...<


14 posted on 10/10/2005 7:24:46 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: Betaille
What message does this send to conservative judges?

These very judges already know what is going on, and I believe they don't want any part of it. JMHO.

15 posted on 10/10/2005 7:24:57 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Freedom is not America's gift to man, Freedom is GOD'S gift to mankind!....G.W.Bush)
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To: birbear

So he can pass the Amnesty bill.


16 posted on 10/10/2005 7:26:22 PM PDT by Afronaut (America is for Americans, but not anymore)
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To: birbear
Bush didn't nominate Scalia to Chief even though there was nothing to lose...even if rejected, Scalia would return as associate justice and it would be one strike against the Democrats which would have taken the wind out of the liberals to reject the next nominee.

He wanted to create an atmosphere of weakness where he thought he could get away with with his weak selection.
17 posted on 10/10/2005 7:26:50 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: birbear

Possible answers:

1) The candidates you like might not want to go through the scrutiny they would get. IOW, they declined the offer.

2) Some candidates were not very well known to GWB. They could turn out to be another Souter. He wants to avoid that if at all possible.

3) Meirs just might be a great candidate.


18 posted on 10/10/2005 7:27:04 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Texas Eagle
It's a master storke! You said it.

storke..LOL

Anyway, it could be a master stroke. One thing's for sure, after 5+ years people still insist on misunderestimating him, even his own base.

19 posted on 10/10/2005 7:27:17 PM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS--this is just the latest example!)
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To: birbear
Why DIDN'T Bush nomiate one of the more popular, well known conservatives to be his Supreme Court nominee?

Perhaps because he doesn't give them or the Senate the same level of trust that you do?

20 posted on 10/10/2005 7:27:39 PM PDT by jess35
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