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No one is arguing over that at all. The only argument is over how well she will do in hearings and how may conservative votes she'll cast in rulings next year.

When has GW Bush ever backed down from a decision? You guys are pursuing a course of action to make the Congress more liberal. If you don't think Democrats are more liberal, just who do you think their nominee would be? Rather than looking for pro-life evidence they'd be looking for pro Choice evidence.

Opponents of Miers need to think very carefully about their intentions and whether or not those intentions advance liberalism.

As always, these things are not about what you can gain. They are about what you can avoid losing. All actions must be viewed in terms of denying Democrats the right to nominate left wing extremist Justices. No one can call Miers that.


2 posted on 10/10/2005 10:03:24 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen

Please, you are trying to tell me that at least half if not 2/3's of freepers on here are against the nomination? And most grassroots people are too!!! Why do you think 27 Senators cast reservation on her nomination. It might have to do with the fact that they have been flooded with calls and emails from conservatives opposing this nomination.


5 posted on 10/10/2005 10:06:23 PM PDT by Mike10542
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To: Owen
these things are not about what you can gain. They are about what you can avoid losing

Avoid losing?
No gain, no pain.
12 posted on 10/10/2005 10:15:20 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Owen
Excuse me! Are you telling me to shut up or Congress will be more Liberal. Here read your own logic:

When has GW Bush ever backed down from a decision? You guys are pursuing a course of action to make the Congress more liberal. If you don't think Democrats are more liberal, just who do you think their nominee would be? Rather than looking for pro-life evidence they'd be looking for pro Choice evidence. Opponents of Miers need to think very carefully about their intentions and whether or not those intentions advance liberalism.

Prehaps it is about advancing "Conservatism"

15 posted on 10/10/2005 10:19:24 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: Owen
No one is arguing over that at all.

My impression is that quite a few are arguing exactly that. That the blowback is coming from an insignificant part of the GOP support.

The only argument is over how well she will do in hearings and how may conservative votes she'll cast in rulings next year.

No. There are several other arguments. Miers proponents tend to focus and speculate -ONLY- on Miers' prospective performance. There are other issues.

Opponents of Miers need to think very carefully about their intentions and whether or not those intentions advance liberalism.

You cast the argument in "opposition to Miers" when it really is "opposition to a nomination that doesn't assert conservatism." Proponents of Miers need to likewise think very carefully about their intentions and whether or not those intentions advance liberalism.

As always, these things are not about what you can gain. They are about what you can avoid losing.

That comes off as an admission of weakness.

All actions must be viewed in terms of denying Democrats the right to nominate left wing extremist Justices.

All defense. No offense. The team that uses that strategy is apt to lose.

19 posted on 10/10/2005 10:23:51 PM PDT by Cboldt
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