Tammy Bruce's Constitutional Ignorance: Disappointed Alito Supports Abortion Notification

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[shhrubbery!]

A strict constructionist might have thought it was a very foolish piece of legislation. But the only issue that a judge should take into account is whether the statute violates the constitution.

This makes me think of the "blue laws" in Bergen County, NJ. These laws require most businesses to close on Sundays.

Most Americans, I'd bet, would call "blue laws" antiquated and "foolish law" if polled -- maybe even "unconstitutional."

But the people of Bergen County, NJ, want to keep their "blue laws" !

It's not a lot of fundamentalist Christians live there --hardly. The population of Bergen County has a large component of secularized Jews, orthodox Jews, Muslims, and liberal types -- all of whom you'd think would oppose mandatory Sunday closings.

So I've long wondered why the ACLU hasn't charged into Bergen County to get a court to overturn the Bergen County blue laws on "constitutional" grounds of "separation of church and state."

But I finally figured it out: The people of Bergen County love their Sunday closing laws (and keep voting for candidates who support hem) because this allows them one day of the week where the roadways aren't impossibly clogged with traffic going to the malls.

[trisham]

The average woman knows that in a moment of bad judgment, she can sexually succumb. To the extent it's a tender memory that she files away in her mind, and may privately give herself grief over, everything is fine and she can function without disrupting her life.

To the extent she has a baby on the way that her husband couldn't have fathered, it's a severe and serious problem. The bad news is that this goes for most women:

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What a depressing viewpoint. I sincerely hope you are wrong.

[jla]

that is her primary item .......... everything else is secondary and subject to that stance ..........

Yes she is unfortunately pro-abort. But I wouldn't say it was "her primary item". If so then she would never have voted for the author of this book:

[HitmanLV]

Whether we pass the law or not is a policy decision. The legislature could decide to protect women's secrets in this way, if they wanted to and if it reflected the people's values.

Most women don't get pregnant because of an affair. But some women clearly do. As far as how a man could know, maybe she is 2 months pregnant and he has been in Iraq for the last 5 months. Maybe when you do the math, it looks like she got pregnant when he was away for a week on a business trip, or she was away for two weeks visiting her sick mom in her hometown.

Maybe the woman figures there is a chance that the baby will be biracial, or have traits that don't resemble her husband much. The choice is then her rolling the dice or making the problem go away to preserve her status quo.

Most women will choose the latter.

I'm not suggesting that most women encounter this issue. I am saying that most women at least have a feeling in their minds they they could be caught like this, and don't want their life/lifestyle destroyed.

[HitmanLV]

I call them like I see them. I don;t think most women find themselves in this situation in their lifetimes. I think most women know they could be in this situation.

A bit depressing, yes. But I think it's an accurate evaluation of the climate out there. Sorry.

[OldFriend]

That has always been the conundrum. Father has no say in whether the baby's life is terminated, but he has to pay child support.

The feminists want it both ways, and they have it both ways.

Even when a father petitions the court to be able to raise the baby if the wife doesn't want the baby, the mother still has the right to kill the baby in her womb.

[Sioux-san]

That's why guys need to be way more selective in how they srpead it around.

[HitmanLV]

The problem in this sitaution on this thread is that folks are using 'husband' and 'father' as freely interchangable.

Clearly at least some of the motivation behind this law is to protect the 'cover' of women who find themselves in the sitaution where the husband is not the father.

[Sioux-san]

And the really amusing part is that Tammy Bruce is a self-avowed lesbian. Why would abortion ever affect her life? She was a big deal in NOW until she started acting all conservative on other issues. Abortion is the end-all and be-all for the feminists, and that will be their downfall. Old and middle-aged women like Whoopi Goldberg, fools from Hollywood who don't know which end is up like Ms. Carmen Diaz, and self-choosing lesbians are the ones who attend the Pro-Choice ralleys and march on legislatures that dare to see things another way. Absurd. I thought I liked Tammy Bruce, but if she can't tell "appropriate" legislation when she sees it, then she is no better than all the other one-track vaginas on the Left.

[trisham]

I call them like I see them. I don;t think most women find themselves in this situation in their lifetimes. I think most women know they could be in this situation.

A bit depressing, yes. But I think it's an accurate evaluation of the climate out there. Sorry.

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Sorry it is.

[Alia]

From article: Speaking of Alito's vote to uphold a law requiring women to notify their husbands of their intent to have an abortion, Bruce said: "I'm disappointed that Alito thought this was an appropriate area for legislation."

In early 90s, I was stunned learning that PA had such a law -- that husband need be NOT involved whatsoever in the abortion of his child by his wife. I thought it was so wrong. If women can abort her husband's progeny -- then there should be NO REQUIREMENT for a husband to pay "child support" when a divorce occurs, given that it's "her choice".

[Sioux-san]

Or that he wants 10 kids, and she wants two. That poor crazy woman in Texas comes to mind who drowned her babies.

[HitmanLV]

Yep, that's another factor clearly.

[Alia]

I'm curious: Why do you think AnnArchy's post makes no sense? Based on what?

[Alia]

My first thought is that he isn't the father.

Mine, too.

[ZULU]

I guess your right. That makes sense to me.

[Sioux-san]

After re-reading my last statement, I think I am being too hard on Tammy. I will give her a break and she will come around sooner or later.

[HitmanLV]

I'm not pleased with this dynamic, don't get me wrong. But I think its a factor.

[Alia]

I have consistently said (and taken some heat on FR) that the reason many women say they are against abortion, but at the same time quietly support the status quo of first trimester abortions being readily available, is that they know there is a real possibility that they could have an otherwise unexplained pregnancy on their hands.

Then let me join you in sharing those hits and heat -- I've been saying, publically, the same thing for many, many years. I've no idea of your own sex, HitmanNY, but I'd say you have a fairly good take on the female psyche.

[HitmanLV]

Yep, it's clearly part of the purpose (though not the only reason) for a law like that.