[Revel]

Listen if two channels raise there rate 76% that does not raise your bill 76%. Word is that DISH had a locked in rate for 10 years with no increases during that time. So I don't know how far things are behind. Also 76% is kind of a meaningless term when you don't know what you are starting with. For instance...If I raise the price of something from 1 cent to 2 cents then I have just increased the price by 100%. So there is not enough information to determine how much of an increase we have here. But in any case they are just 2 of over 100 channels and therefore there affect on Dish's total cost is small. Word on the forum is that DISH is going raise rates for next month. The last time DISH pulled this crap then they raised the rates too. So I am not so sure that this is not standard procedure for Dish to pull a stunt like this so that they can later put the lifetime channels back on and then raise rates- claiming that there costs have gone up. With all the commercials and "paid advertising" that we see...and the lack of new material to view...they have no business raising rates at all.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Listen if two channels raise there rate 76% that does not raise your bill 76%.

DISH has bills to pay too, they aren't getting all these channels provided to them for nothing (aside from NASA and The Pentagon Channel which is funded by taxpayers). DISH is a customer just like everyone else, except they are the ones who strike deals with these content providers. If Lifetime is asking DISH to pony up 76% more, DISH network would have to turn to it's customer base to help "foot the bill". I realize us customers won't see a 76% increase in our bills, but there would be an increase no doubt. This is why Charlie is playing hardball like he usually does with content providers.

Also 76% is kind of a meaningless term when you don't know what you are starting with. For instance...If I raise the price of something from 1 cent to 2 cents then I have just increased the price by 100%.

This is not about going from 1 penny to 2 pennies. When you start talking millions of dollars, even a 1% increase would look substantial. When DISH is paying content providers like Lifetime upwards of hundreds of thousands or even 1 million dollars, Ergen would be losing money if he didn't pass on that cost to the consumer.

A channel like Lifetime isn't going to affect the churn for DISH network, but when you start talking about popular channels like ESPN for example, who tend to seek outrageous cost increases and Ergen pulls the plug on them, people will get outraged and some to the point they dump DISH for someone else.

Lifetime needs DISH's 11 million customers more than DISH needs Lifetime.