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(Vanity) Brokeback Mountain, a Curious Attendance Story
Michael Medved Radio | 1-6-06 | Vanity

Posted on 01/06/2006 3:31:19 PM PST by Balding_Eagle

Did anyone else hear this on the Michael Medved talk radio today?

A man called in, near the end of the hour. He said he had been taken his kids to the theater, and the kids movie they were waiting to see had a very long line. Brokeback Mountain was also showing at that theater. He said he sat near the ticket booth for 35 minutes, as his kids waited in line to buy tickets for their movie.

During that 35 minutes he never heard one person buy a ticket for Brokeback Mountain. However, during that 35 minutes, the “SOLD OUT” sign came on for Brokeback. Out of curiosity, he went in to the Brokeback theater, and only saw 4 people in there. The theater manager refused to comment when the man questioned him.

Is this how all those theaters are getting such high attendance for Brokeback? Imaginary theater goers?

Perhaps other theater goers can investigate for themselves this weekend.

I can only vouch for the fact that this man called in a related the story as I presented it here, not if it’s true. Callers can make up stories too. It peaked my interest though.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: boxoffice; brokebackmountain; hollyweird; homosexualagenda; medved; piqued; pudding
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To: Rocky
 
lol, I wasn't accusing you of anything, you just had the text.

Make the numbers whatever they need to be...  It's still tough to announce that the cost of the flick was 'X' dollars, we sold out theatres for 'Y' dollars (an inflated amount) and our profit is Y-X dollars. 

I've seen a lot of accounting shenanigans in my career but never one that exposes you to fraud and stockholder lawsuits.

Example: Movie truly costs $25M to make and you raise $1 million each from 25 investors. Genuine revenues are $50M for a 100% or $25M return on investment with no monkey business involved. However, you spend another $10M buying tickets from theatres to make it look like the movie is selling more than it is. To do this you had to raise another $10M, $1M each from 10 more shareholders.

Your expenses are now $35M, revenues are now $60M and profit is still $25M. So 35 people get to split $25M instead of 25 people splitting $25M. 

I see lawsuits written all over this scheme.
 


141 posted on 01/06/2006 4:41:20 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: dangus

LOL....Seriously, I thought the same thing when I saw that graphic.


142 posted on 01/06/2006 4:43:07 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: bulldozer

"You are recommending a movie with two sodomite males who engage in anal sex for the viewers to experience?

I wounldn't recommend this to anyone."

I wouldn't either!

I was recommending Walk the Line about Johnny Cash!

YIKES!!!!


143 posted on 01/06/2006 4:43:13 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Darkwolf377
besides, who cares if it achieves its objective, whatever that is?

Cultural change is their objective. I think a few people care.

144 posted on 01/06/2006 4:43:23 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: daku

Congrats on a twisted mind. LOL!! Come on people... that was funny!


145 posted on 01/06/2006 4:44:41 PM PST by CATravelAgent (Islam - THE anti-Christ)
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To: 19th LA Inf
Walk the Line was a pretty good movie (although Ray was a better-acted biopic), but mass popularity has almost zip to do with nominations - Fudgepack Mountin' will bury WTL in nominations. Joaquin Phoenix may pick up Best Actor, though.
146 posted on 01/06/2006 4:45:16 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Popman
There could be a reason for this to happen, and an explanation. If BBM and another movie had the same distributor, switching one for the other might be profitable for the theater, especially if the distributor is paying more for BB< than the other movie.

"Sold Out" would mean they had hit their limit on how many tickets they could divert to BBM.

It would help to know what movie was playing besides BBM, and if it had the same distributor.

147 posted on 01/06/2006 4:45:35 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: dangus; Darkwolf377
Theater's take is typically 45% of the cut. And then there's printing and marketing. But according to some basic rules of thumb, it is rapidly approaching profitability, presuming equally strong DVD and foreign grosses

So in appx. one month BM has made appx. 33% less in the box office than "Passion Of the Christ" made in one day. And BM has had the most positive and fawning press blitz of any movie I can remember.

You are correct though about the appx. DVD sales. Homosexulals will be snapping them up like gerbils.

148 posted on 01/06/2006 4:45:48 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: My2Cents

It looked like they were praciticing bronco busting.


149 posted on 01/06/2006 4:46:00 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: Dane

Appropriate that this movie's initials are "BM."


150 posted on 01/06/2006 4:47:15 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: San Jacinto
And behave just like Nerds

No need to insult Nerds.

151 posted on 01/06/2006 4:47:33 PM PST by knuthom
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Cultural change is their objective. I think a few people care.

Uh, okay--so no one is actually seeing the movie, that's all hype, but it's going to change the culture? Ooookay...

152 posted on 01/06/2006 4:47:35 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: Darkwolf377
people here LOVED Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, yet how many threads have been posted on that

Enough for you to know how that people here LOVED it (your emphasis, not mine).

153 posted on 01/06/2006 4:47:56 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: GSWarrior

I recall it had a limited release, and then it got released in more theaters, supposedly because of the great demand to see it. I think this is all marketing hype. Motion pictures have marketing schemes just like any other product. I think the producers are trying to hype the film by creating an impression there's great public enthusiasm for it. It wouldn't entirely surprise me if the company handling the release asked theatres to say it was sold out as part of the deal, even if it wasn't.


154 posted on 01/06/2006 4:49:31 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: SuzyQue
They're SHEEPHERDERS. NOT cowboys!

Same thing. 'Cept I spose you don't need a ladder for sheep.

Flame away. Go ahead. I dare ya! Pffffft.

155 posted on 01/06/2006 4:49:48 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Popman

Ironically I answered that question in the very next post.


156 posted on 01/06/2006 4:50:16 PM PST by dangus
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To: BurbankKarl

The studios wouldn't stay in business long if they made a habit of this. Their purpose is to make money, not give it away. And theater chain owners would scream bloody murder. They get as much or more of their revenue from concessions as from tickets sales. Am I supposed to believe that the studios are footing a big chunk of the original production costs for films, and then buying up millions of tickets which will not be resold, and paying off theater owners for the lost concessions? Theater owners have a stake in this business too, and wouldn't stand for this if it happened on more than very rare occasions in a limited number of markets. And local journalists would have a field day, since they'd have no trouble confirming the stories with the many casual workers who staff theater ticket windows, projection rooms, and concession stands. And most of these major studios are publicly traded companies, or segment-reported subsidiaries of publicly traded companies, so the stock analysts would be all over this, followed quickly by the SEC's investigators, who'd slap fines and nasty publicity on the studios that would put a quick stop to such schemes. And competing studios would get wind of such antics quickly, and be quick to expose them, since their own revenues would suffer from false promotion of competitors' films as blockbusters. If major studios were falsifying financial reports by misreporting sources of revenue and targets of 8 figure expenditures, while engaging in deceptive practices that thousands of casual theater workers, plus theater owners, are in a position to notice and blow the whistle on, the execs would be in deep trouble very quickly, and the practice would end.

Nope, if what you describe has ever happened, it has been rarely and on a small scale. Inflated ticket sales/attendance numbers are very common in the sports world, but none of the major sports organizations are publicly traded, and nobody is paying for the tickets. The same companies, or incestuously related companies, are getting most of the revenue from ticket sales, and reporting the numbers, AND managing the events on site (so unsold seats are frequently packed with people who've been given free tickets, making the reported numbers look at least vaguely believable to naive people, and making concession owners happy since people who got free tickets buy at least as much junk food as people who already spent a bundle on tickets).


157 posted on 01/06/2006 4:51:21 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Darkwolf377

Hollywood always seeks to change the culture. In this case, their goal is to promote homosexual "love" over heterosexual marriage.

Are you disputing that?


158 posted on 01/06/2006 4:51:34 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Dane
Of course they will.

The Passion was a huge success had an enormous pre-release publicity push, targeted at the likely viewers.

There are many, many more Christians than there are homosexuals, and they came out to see a movie in wide release, as opposed to this one.

In fact, The Passion is a textbook example of how to release a movie Hollywood saw as a "problem" film. In fact, it was a problem for them, as its success has now made alternatives to their view of religion (pervert or lying priests, anyone who espouses Christian beliefs being an idiot or kook) potentially lucrative. Hollywood can spin it all they want, the gigantic success of The Passion showed that Christian-themed movies will draw the audience in gigantic numbers.

The Passion is a success story that Hollywood is trying to ignore but seeing how box office was down this year they may have no choice but to back more Christian-themed movies. Narnia, partially funded by a Christian investor, is another example.

Hollywood likes pushing their agenda, but they like making money, too. Don't be surprised if you see some spin-off companies arriving on the scene to make just those kinds of films for the major studios.

159 posted on 01/06/2006 4:52:12 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Yes, but where's the discussion? All I know is that people loved it. But the endless threads about Brokeback? I'd rather read why those who've seen Narnia enjoyed it.


160 posted on 01/06/2006 4:53:13 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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