Posted on 01/08/2006 5:54:51 PM PST by Ellesu
Jim Morrisson/Back Door Man ping.
"Too late. The kids would be more surprised if he revealed he was straight."
LOL!
I'm not a Catholic but it seems to me that his public confession about his homosexuality is also a public statement that he supports present church doctrine.
I you are inclined towards homosexuality then you should not be ordained.
He's already ordained but celibate and wishes to continue in the priesthood.
His public confession means he agrees to follow church teaching.
Celibacy trumps sexual orientation, Hetero or Homo.
I think his honesty and sincerity should count for something.
...ok...maybe I coulda used a better analogy...oops!, I did it again.
That's the question. This guy probably has a million duties and responsibilities around the parish, and all he can think of is coming out of the closet? Put a sock in it and get on with the job.
Thanks - will ping the list later tonight or tomorrow.
Alot of the priests that I have dealt with make Liberace look macho.
There have been numerous discussions and articles about this. Homosexual priests have a way of saying "I'm celibate" and actually MEANING that "I'm not married". They don't necessarily mean "I am CHASTE" (ie no sex).
It's called "parsing" words.
Well I'd like to think the guy's sincere but I'm an optimist.
Father Mo-jo RISIN'...
If a person has no intention of ever acting on base impulses, s/he will not identify with said impulses. Desires that are ignored gradually go away. By focusing on them, they increase and get stronger.
Furthermore, the position of the Catholic Church is that no one who has same sex attraction or identifies as "gay", or who supports the gay agenda, should be a priest.
His sexual orientation. Priests are human with lusts just like anyone else. The only caveat is that they're not supposed to act on their carnal desires. What makes this priest gay is that when he goes to confession, he confesses to carnal thoughts and fantasies involving men, instead of women. Even though he's not acting on the desire, his desire is for men, not women.
since we're picking the nit, most dictionaries list at least two meanings for celibate: 1. unmarried 2. abstaining from sex.
What he meant to say was, "when I see a hot guy in the congregation I get all tingly between my legs and I want to touch his firm loins and feel his hot flesh against mine." If we are going to celebrate honesty, let's get really honest.
That my friend is a the granddaddy of all lies. It's utter and total BS. I won't name my temptations, but they haven't diminished over the years despite my refusal to indulge. To this day some of my lusts are managed only through the same force of will that I put in place years ago to keep them in check. Luckily for me, in my case they're all heterosexual in nature, but the principle remains the same.
Since he declares himself to be gay, he might also follow the wise policies of many other pastor-teachers who adapt a policy to never place themselves in a compromising position with women, i.e. they only counsel in groups and open door sessions with witnesses present with no doubt as to their credibility.
Of course, since he cannot communicate with either men or women in private now, he might either consider complete isolation or only public servitude.
One further point. If he is indeed born again, then he has given up the old man, the old sin nature, and if he is genetically predisposed to 'gayness', he has given that up long before entering seminary, and has now advanced to the point of putting on the mind of Christ rather than ever entertaining 'gay thoughts'. Of course, if this has not yet happened, the issue isn't a gay predisposition, but rather he needs to conitnue his walk in faith and mature to the point of rejecting any such temptation in spiritual self-esteem.
Ouch ... this guy's got no mojo ... wrong Morrison ... can't fool me.
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