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Hollywood: 'Brokeback'óNo Bump
Newsweek/MSNBC ^ | 3/6/06 | Sean Smith

Posted on 03/01/2006 5:24:30 PM PST by wagglebee

March 6, 2006 issue - An Oscar nod for Best Picture often means big box-office increases, but "Brokeback Mountain" hasn't gotten the kind of bump insiders expected. Unlike last year's "Million Dollar Baby," which saw an 88 percent increase between the noms and Oscar night, and "Chicago," which shot up 100 percent, the grosses for "Brokeback" have actually been declining every weekend.

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KEYWORDS: brokebackbuggerboys; brokebackmountain; hollywood; homosexualagenda; oscars; peteredout
Projected to reach the $100 million mark before the Oscars, it'll now be lucky to touch $80 million.

They just don't get it! They can push the movie all they want, but most Americans still don't want to see it!

1 posted on 03/01/2006 5:24:32 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: DirtyHarryY2K; DBeers

Homosexual Agenda ping.


2 posted on 03/01/2006 5:25:03 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Hollywood "broken", period.


3 posted on 03/01/2006 5:25:29 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: wagglebee

..and this is a surprise because........?


4 posted on 03/01/2006 5:26:58 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: wagglebee

People in general don't like homosexuality nor do they like homosexuals pushing their sexuality around in inappropriate places like the work place or schools.

That is not being homophobic, it is having good taste and conventional ethics.

From the religious side we are to love the sinner and reject the sin, not highlight it and ADULTERY in a movie.


5 posted on 03/01/2006 5:27:27 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: wagglebee

Its already made a huge profit.


6 posted on 03/01/2006 5:28:36 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

The leftists behind the homosexual agenda don't care about how much money this propaganda movie does or doesn't make, they wanted to expose as many people as possible to homosexuality -- and on that level, they have failed.


7 posted on 03/01/2006 5:32:03 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: marajade

Yep. Already made $126 million with $14 million production costs.

It's just a movie - I don't understand why its existence upsets people. I'm not fond of the Mafia, but the Godfather was a great flick.


8 posted on 03/01/2006 5:35:24 PM PST by Bubbatuck
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To: wagglebee

Hollywood is always about profit.


9 posted on 03/01/2006 5:36:26 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Bubbatuck

Never seen Godfather or Brokeback Mtn.


10 posted on 03/01/2006 5:37:12 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee

Once the queers got tired of seeing it for the 10th time, it broke the back of the ticket sales.


11 posted on 03/01/2006 5:40:20 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (My Homeland Security: Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper)
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To: wagglebee

Only one solution to increase the revenue- request that all liberal public skool teachers drag their grade school children to see the movie without parental consent- pay full price, paid by tax payers. (/lib talk at a squeeling halt)


12 posted on 03/01/2006 5:45:45 PM PST by Mark (What at first was plunder assumed the softer name of revenue.- Thomas Paine, 1792)
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To: marajade
Hollywood is always about profit.

The only movie to come out of Hollywood in the past several years that could possibly be considered a blockbuster is "The Passion of the Christ" and "mainstream" Hollywood did everything it could to discredit it before it was even released. The only "agenda" driven movies that have ever been really successful in Hollywood are pro-American patriotic movies along the lines of "Rambo" and "Red Dawn." The other blockbusters have always been purely for entertainment, they may not be "artistic masterpieces" but they make money.

13 posted on 03/01/2006 5:51:44 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Um Dude where have you been? The LOTR triology? SW I, II, and III?


14 posted on 03/01/2006 5:53:58 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee
the grosses for "Brokeback" have actually been declining every weekend.

Gee I wonder why? After every gay man in America has seen it ten times, what audience is left?

15 posted on 03/01/2006 5:55:40 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: wagglebee

They'd already pumped this dead sheep for all it was worth. The other movies hadn't been endlessly hyped for four straight months. Heck, on FR, we're tired of even making fun of it. Leno's out of jokes. The east and left coast liberals who saw it once a week for six straight weeks to raise the box office numbers are so tired of it, they're probably paying to see it, then sneaking in to watch Curious George.


16 posted on 03/01/2006 5:59:47 PM PST by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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To: marajade

You are absolutely right, LOTR and Star Wars were huge hits, and I was mistaken in that respect. However, they were not "agenda driven" (although LOTR clearly has Christian undertones, but non-Christians could easily ignore these). And the most recent Star Wars movies would not be considered "blockbusters" compared to the original three (especially Episode IV).


17 posted on 03/01/2006 6:00:00 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Um Chronicles of Naria made a huge profit.


18 posted on 03/01/2006 6:02:45 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

I really don't get your point.


19 posted on 03/01/2006 6:04:27 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Christian under tones?


20 posted on 03/01/2006 6:05:10 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Okay, so a movie can be a blockbuster if it has a Christian message even though the Hollywood left will resist it, and a leftist agenda-driven movie will not reach blockbuster status no matter how much it is hyped.


21 posted on 03/01/2006 6:07:44 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
Michael Medved made a great point in "Hollywood vs. America." He noted that the people making the big movies already have a lot of money, and what they want is name recognition, and to be relevent. Ang Lee's biggest hit, The Hulk, was considered a box office disappointment because the movie made far less than it would have if it had been directed by Sam Raimi, who did Spiderman 1 & 2. The Hulk grossed $132 million, Spiderman 1 $400 million, Spiderman 2 $373 million. However, who gets more press? Lee gets more respect for a $75 million "Brokeback" than Raimi gets for generating 3/4 of a billion.
22 posted on 03/01/2006 6:10:33 PM PST by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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To: wagglebee

Who wants to see a chick flick, when the chicks are guys?


23 posted on 03/01/2006 6:13:21 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Richard Kimball

That goes along with the point I have been trying to make. Most of these guys are multi-millionaires anyway, but they want some "relevance." Part of the reason the others despised Gibson so much for making "Passion" is because he made a movie that went against everything Hollywood stands for these days and he did it without a penny of their money.


24 posted on 03/01/2006 6:16:05 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Um no, Brokeback Mtn was very successful regardless. It cost 14 mil to make and it has already grossed over 100 mil.


25 posted on 03/01/2006 6:20:17 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee
They just don't get it!

Pssst. That's because they live in a different universe. They are only entertainers who have come to believe they are exalted messengers of the all wisdom. Just let them keep thinking that and soon they will fall into the black hole of other failed industries who's arrogance and insularity caused them to ignore their customers.

They really think they are "artists" but the reality is it's only a business.

26 posted on 03/01/2006 6:20:49 PM PST by Ditto
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To: marajade

Then why do they have their allies in the media writing stories about how it needs to make more money?


27 posted on 03/01/2006 6:23:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Don't know. Its already made enough.


28 posted on 03/01/2006 6:26:18 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

And the $14 million that it cost to make doesn't include what has been spent on marketing which could easily be a lot more.


29 posted on 03/01/2006 6:29:34 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Oh come on... its made five times production costs. With video sales and rentals, its made enough already.


30 posted on 03/01/2006 6:31:39 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

It would be interesting to see the actual bottom line after you put the theater's margins and marketing costs. It will not come close to other multi-award winners.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


31 posted on 03/01/2006 6:36:17 PM PST by bray (GW protects Americans while DinocRats protect Al Queda)
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To: bray

With video sales and rental... a lot of profit there.


32 posted on 03/01/2006 6:37:16 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Then why doesn't this article declare it a huge success?

Could it be that the left doesn't really care about the profit margin, they care about the fact that at current ticket prices it has probably sold less than 10 million tickets? The fact that more people saw the last Spiderman movie on OPENING DAY than have seen this. Their concern certainly isn't the money, it's the lack of widespread exposure.


33 posted on 03/01/2006 6:38:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

It cost 14 mil to make. So far its brought in over five times that. Still to make $$ from pay per view, pay channels; and then video sales and rental. Its gonna to make a ton.


34 posted on 03/01/2006 6:42:05 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

What video sales and rental?

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


35 posted on 03/01/2006 6:57:46 PM PST by bray (GW protects Americans while DinocRats protect Al Queda)
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To: marajade
No, Brokeback Mountain has probably about broken even. That's just a guess, but production costs just include making the film. Marketing is not included. On Boxoffice Mojo, they list these costs IF the studio releases them. Generally, the rule of thumb is that marketing a movie costs about 1/2 the total cost of the movie. On Brokeback, they have not released the marketing costs. I believe this is because this movie was never intended to make money. I never watch channels that would have an audience remotely interested in Brokeback, but for several weeks I thought I was being saturation bombed with ads. A movie like this, following standard Hollywood accounting, SHOULD have had around a 7 million advertising and marketing budget. I suspect they spent as much on this as they did on Shrek, which had a production cost of $60 million and marketing costs of $45 million.

If you compare it to a successful independent film, consider "My Big Fat Greek Wedding". It had production costs of $5 million, marketing $19 million (most after word of mouth had already made it a hit), and generated $241 mil. domestically and another $127 mil. internationally, for a total of $368 mil.

Of course, the Passion of the Christ is not only the top grossing R movie of all time, but the top grossing independent movie of all time, generating over $600 mil world wide on a $30 mil production and $25 mil. marketing campaign.

The success of this movie on any level is almost entirely hype. It's a smash because Roger Ebert, Hollywood, and the left coast homo and metrosexuals decided that it was a smash, and they weren't going to let poor box office results stand in the way of it being declared a smash.

36 posted on 03/01/2006 7:05:57 PM PST by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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To: wagglebee

I don't see how Brokeback Mountain is "agenda driven". What agenda was it pushing? One character dies (probably murdered) and the other is left alone, lonely and near-destitute.

Both characters lead lives of sorrow and desperation.

What agenda is it pushing?


37 posted on 03/01/2006 7:38:35 PM PST by Bubbatuck
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To: Bubbatuck
What agenda is it pushing?


Hollywood the homosexual activist is using their propaganda movie Brokeback Mountain as a tool to say homosexuality is something you are born with and it is not a choice. Look at the theme of the movie which they wrote themselves – “Love is a Force of Nature”.

To be specific Hollywood has an agenda to push homosexuality as being a force of nature which is normal and natural to man.

38 posted on 03/02/2006 4:16:13 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: wagglebee

You should hear some of the radio stations up here in Canada. They are making fun of this movie relentlessly. Just this morning I listened to at least half and hour of jokes and songs making fun of Brokebutt Mounting. That movie is doing very poorly up here, which is ironic because a couple of our cities have quite a big amount of gays.


39 posted on 03/02/2006 7:22:50 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: Ashamed Canadian

To add, I think that the thing is, and I can't speak for the US, but up here, people aren't being fooled by this crap. They see very clearly that this is merely a vehicle for pushing their agenda. I think I know two people who have seen it, and they're both chicks.


40 posted on 03/02/2006 7:24:22 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: marajade

The Lord of the Rings is not a Hollywood production, it was entirely a New Zealand production. Star Wars was utter crap. As for movies, why can't we see more Westerns and things like that?


41 posted on 03/02/2006 7:27:47 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: Richard Kimball

You are exactly right. Hollywood will NEVER release the marketing costs of this movie, it is pure propaganda and as such it is the agenda that matters, not profits.

Hollywood knows perfectly well how to make a movie that will be a blockbuster, but this wasn't designed to be one of them. That is why they did not use "A List" actors, etc.


42 posted on 03/02/2006 9:35:40 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Ashamed Canadian

Westerns don't sell. And the LOTR triology was put out by Newline Cinema. Its Hollywood.


43 posted on 03/02/2006 3:50:56 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Richard Kimball

Um Dude it cost 14 mil to make. I seriously doubt they've spent 80 mil on marketing.


44 posted on 03/02/2006 3:51:56 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: bray

The movie makes money from pay per view, the paychannels, ie.., HBO etc and video sales and rental.


45 posted on 03/02/2006 3:52:50 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
It cost 14 mil to make and it has already grossed over 100 mil.

Oh it "grossed" allright.

46 posted on 03/02/2006 3:54:44 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

That's what its taken in. Got a dispute with that?


47 posted on 03/02/2006 3:59:00 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

I have no doubt that every gay has seen the movie at least twice, I'm not one who disputes that it made money.


48 posted on 03/02/2006 4:00:13 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

So and teenage girls are what made the Titanic earn 800 mil... what's your point?


49 posted on 03/02/2006 4:01:53 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee

My girlfriend pulled me into going. Lots of girls apparently like the film. Chick flick with guys.


50 posted on 03/03/2006 7:47:34 AM PST by gogoman
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