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Hollywood: 'Brokeback'—No Bump
Newsweek/MSNBC ^ | 3/6/06 | Sean Smith

Posted on 03/01/2006 5:24:30 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: marajade

Okay, so a movie can be a blockbuster if it has a Christian message even though the Hollywood left will resist it, and a leftist agenda-driven movie will not reach blockbuster status no matter how much it is hyped.


21 posted on 03/01/2006 6:07:44 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Michael Medved made a great point in "Hollywood vs. America." He noted that the people making the big movies already have a lot of money, and what they want is name recognition, and to be relevent. Ang Lee's biggest hit, The Hulk, was considered a box office disappointment because the movie made far less than it would have if it had been directed by Sam Raimi, who did Spiderman 1 & 2. The Hulk grossed $132 million, Spiderman 1 $400 million, Spiderman 2 $373 million. However, who gets more press? Lee gets more respect for a $75 million "Brokeback" than Raimi gets for generating 3/4 of a billion.
22 posted on 03/01/2006 6:10:33 PM PST by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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To: wagglebee

Who wants to see a chick flick, when the chicks are guys?


23 posted on 03/01/2006 6:13:21 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Richard Kimball

That goes along with the point I have been trying to make. Most of these guys are multi-millionaires anyway, but they want some "relevance." Part of the reason the others despised Gibson so much for making "Passion" is because he made a movie that went against everything Hollywood stands for these days and he did it without a penny of their money.


24 posted on 03/01/2006 6:16:05 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Um no, Brokeback Mtn was very successful regardless. It cost 14 mil to make and it has already grossed over 100 mil.


25 posted on 03/01/2006 6:20:17 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee
They just don't get it!

Pssst. That's because they live in a different universe. They are only entertainers who have come to believe they are exalted messengers of the all wisdom. Just let them keep thinking that and soon they will fall into the black hole of other failed industries who's arrogance and insularity caused them to ignore their customers.

They really think they are "artists" but the reality is it's only a business.

26 posted on 03/01/2006 6:20:49 PM PST by Ditto
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To: marajade

Then why do they have their allies in the media writing stories about how it needs to make more money?


27 posted on 03/01/2006 6:23:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Don't know. Its already made enough.


28 posted on 03/01/2006 6:26:18 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

And the $14 million that it cost to make doesn't include what has been spent on marketing which could easily be a lot more.


29 posted on 03/01/2006 6:29:34 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Oh come on... its made five times production costs. With video sales and rentals, its made enough already.


30 posted on 03/01/2006 6:31:39 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

It would be interesting to see the actual bottom line after you put the theater's margins and marketing costs. It will not come close to other multi-award winners.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


31 posted on 03/01/2006 6:36:17 PM PST by bray (GW protects Americans while DinocRats protect Al Queda)
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With video sales and rental... a lot of profit there.


32 posted on 03/01/2006 6:37:16 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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Then why doesn't this article declare it a huge success?

Could it be that the left doesn't really care about the profit margin, they care about the fact that at current ticket prices it has probably sold less than 10 million tickets? The fact that more people saw the last Spiderman movie on OPENING DAY than have seen this. Their concern certainly isn't the money, it's the lack of widespread exposure.


33 posted on 03/01/2006 6:38:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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It cost 14 mil to make. So far its brought in over five times that. Still to make $$ from pay per view, pay channels; and then video sales and rental. Its gonna to make a ton.


34 posted on 03/01/2006 6:42:05 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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What video sales and rental?

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


35 posted on 03/01/2006 6:57:46 PM PST by bray (GW protects Americans while DinocRats protect Al Queda)
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To: marajade
No, Brokeback Mountain has probably about broken even. That's just a guess, but production costs just include making the film. Marketing is not included. On Boxoffice Mojo, they list these costs IF the studio releases them. Generally, the rule of thumb is that marketing a movie costs about 1/2 the total cost of the movie. On Brokeback, they have not released the marketing costs. I believe this is because this movie was never intended to make money. I never watch channels that would have an audience remotely interested in Brokeback, but for several weeks I thought I was being saturation bombed with ads. A movie like this, following standard Hollywood accounting, SHOULD have had around a 7 million advertising and marketing budget. I suspect they spent as much on this as they did on Shrek, which had a production cost of $60 million and marketing costs of $45 million.

If you compare it to a successful independent film, consider "My Big Fat Greek Wedding". It had production costs of $5 million, marketing $19 million (most after word of mouth had already made it a hit), and generated $241 mil. domestically and another $127 mil. internationally, for a total of $368 mil.

Of course, the Passion of the Christ is not only the top grossing R movie of all time, but the top grossing independent movie of all time, generating over $600 mil world wide on a $30 mil production and $25 mil. marketing campaign.

The success of this movie on any level is almost entirely hype. It's a smash because Roger Ebert, Hollywood, and the left coast homo and metrosexuals decided that it was a smash, and they weren't going to let poor box office results stand in the way of it being declared a smash.

36 posted on 03/01/2006 7:05:57 PM PST by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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I don't see how Brokeback Mountain is "agenda driven". What agenda was it pushing? One character dies (probably murdered) and the other is left alone, lonely and near-destitute.

Both characters lead lives of sorrow and desperation.

What agenda is it pushing?


37 posted on 03/01/2006 7:38:35 PM PST by Bubbatuck
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What agenda is it pushing?


Hollywood the homosexual activist is using their propaganda movie Brokeback Mountain as a tool to say homosexuality is something you are born with and it is not a choice. Look at the theme of the movie which they wrote themselves – “Love is a Force of Nature”.

To be specific Hollywood has an agenda to push homosexuality as being a force of nature which is normal and natural to man.

38 posted on 03/02/2006 4:16:13 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: wagglebee

You should hear some of the radio stations up here in Canada. They are making fun of this movie relentlessly. Just this morning I listened to at least half and hour of jokes and songs making fun of Brokebutt Mounting. That movie is doing very poorly up here, which is ironic because a couple of our cities have quite a big amount of gays.


39 posted on 03/02/2006 7:22:50 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To add, I think that the thing is, and I can't speak for the US, but up here, people aren't being fooled by this crap. They see very clearly that this is merely a vehicle for pushing their agenda. I think I know two people who have seen it, and they're both chicks.


40 posted on 03/02/2006 7:24:22 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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