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First a Wall--Then Amnesty
The Washington Post ^ | April 7, 2006 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 04/07/2006 8:13:21 PM PDT by SK85

Every sensible immigration policy has two objectives: (1) to regain control of our borders so that it is we who decide who enters and (2) to find a way to normalize and legalize the situation of the 11 million illegals among us.

Start with the second. No one of good will wants to see these 11 million suffer. But the obvious problem is that legalization creates an enormous incentive for new illegals to come.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderfence; bordersecurity; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; krauthammer
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1 posted on 04/07/2006 8:13:23 PM PDT by SK85
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2 posted on 04/07/2006 8:14:09 PM PDT by seastay
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How and why am I surprised that Charles Krauthammer supports amnesty. His friends Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol support amnesty.
3 posted on 04/07/2006 8:26:57 PM PDT by Robertsll
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Better, and more cost effective strategy:

Build a wall, and then deport.


5 posted on 04/07/2006 8:29:16 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: seastay; gubamyster; HiJinx
Sorry Lucy, Charlie Brown has figured out the "let's have amnesty, and we'll fix the border" scam.


6 posted on 04/07/2006 8:29:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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No matter what, the WALL MUST BE FIRST. CLOSE THE BORDER.


7 posted on 04/07/2006 8:36:27 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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You are not of "good will" according to Charles Krauthammer.

Krauthammer: No one of good will wants to see these 11 million suffer.

You want to see 11 million 20 million illegal aliens suffer, admit it! (rolls eyes - sarcasm)

This is all getting very childish.

8 posted on 04/07/2006 8:53:03 PM PDT by Robertsll
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To: Travis McGee; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...


No Rewards for Law-Breakers Ping!

Sorry, Charles, you're wrong.

9 posted on 04/07/2006 8:53:21 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: SK85

First a Wall, then the Employers and NO Amnesty


10 posted on 04/07/2006 8:56:23 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: SK85

Sorry Chuck, I usually agree with you on things but not this time. First a wall, then deportation of illegals and jail for their employers.


11 posted on 04/07/2006 9:08:37 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (What is this "running late?" If you were running, you would've been there on time!)
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To: Marine Inspector

Hear, hear!


12 posted on 04/07/2006 9:08:44 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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13 posted on 04/07/2006 9:09:43 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: SK85

I agree with Charles, fix the levees before you rebuild the town, both can't be done at the same time.


14 posted on 04/07/2006 9:10:53 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Robertsll

LOL!

That's right... I'm not really a Patriotic American concerned for the future of my country...

I'm just a big-fat-meanie-pants!


15 posted on 04/07/2006 9:11:09 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Echo Talon

After the Wall is up, then we can debate as to how to handle the people that are here.


16 posted on 04/07/2006 9:12:28 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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The obvious way to "normalize and legalize the situation of the 11 million illegals" is to send them back from whence they came.


17 posted on 04/07/2006 9:15:20 PM PDT by LNewman
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This is the more realistic scenario. Illegal immigrants make up 3.7% of the population, the idea of forcibly deporting 1 out of every 25 inhabitants would require massive Gov't expenditures and intrusions into the economy and the business affairs. Hardly Conservative goals, I would think. It would also be a humanitarian disaster that could lead to international backlash, economically and politically.

Build a wall to prevent further illegal immigration, then have some form of probationary amnesty--ie, you WILL learn English and you WILL learn American patriotism, and you won't get to vote until you've mastered both skills. Take control of the Civics lessons and inculcate American/Capitalist values into the immigrants--Patriot's History of the U.S. the required text for the Naturalization class(es)--whether legal or soon-to-be legal. Raise the quota for legal immigrants from a quarter million to a full million (particularly so we can scoop up some Eastern European and Asian engineers, considering our country is going to have an engineer deficit once the Boomers start to retire). And of course, patrol the walls on BOTH borders (Kenneth Timmerman, in his book about myths in the War on Terror, argues persuasively that an Islamic Radical would be more likely to cross the Canadian border and not the Mexican border.)

We have to deal realistically with the problem, and not shoot for emotionally satisfying invectives against "Rinos" or Hispanics or ANSWER or anyone else. Deportation, imprisonement, these are not viable options, politically or fiscally. Then what? If you don't have a workable solution, you don't have a solution, and the unacceptable status quo remains. Build a wall, then teach the illegals to become Conservative Americans. Pull the rug out from under the Democrats, and have it both ways--win the security issue by securing the borders, win (or don't lose at least) Hispanics by offering the carrot and stick of amnesty if you're going to become a patriotic American and not just work here to send money back to Mexico. I'd rather have 11 million hard working English Speaking God-fearing Hispanic Americans over 11 million white Green Party trust fund WTO protesting Coldplay listening Howard Zinn quoting Bill Maher watching worthless folk poet "Americans". Maybe we need to deport some people in this country, but its the people in San Francisco and Portland who congenitally express disdain for living here, not those who want to live here and will appreciate living here.


18 posted on 04/07/2006 9:27:35 PM PDT by 0siris
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The obvious way to "normalize and legalize the situation of the 11 million illegals" is to send them back from whence they came.

Yep. If we don't stop rewarding illegal aliens with amnesty, they will keep coming and coming. A wall, no wall, that does not matter if there is amnesty. No enforcement of our laws = hundreds of thousands of illegals every year even with a wall.

They will come by boat, car, truck, and plane.

Why can't a Mexican take a vacation in the United States and stay for a long time? What is wrong with that? And while they are at it, they can look for work in America and a home. Marry a wife. You know, do the usual things people do on vacation. ;)

19 posted on 04/07/2006 9:38:00 PM PDT by Robertsll
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By your standards, the "Senate compromise bill" is not a viable options because it contains deportation of recent illegal aliens.

So you are saying whomever gets into America should not turned back to their nation of origin. They should be rewarded with jobs and sometimes citizenship.

20 posted on 04/07/2006 9:42:38 PM PDT by Robertsll
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