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Shadow Government of The United States and the Decline of America
InfoKill Datafeed/FreeRepublic ^ | November 1994 | Richard Eastman/as per Jeff Head

Posted on 04/09/2006 12:32:47 AM PDT by philetus

Shadow Government of the United States and the Decline of America In spite of the difficulties facing America, there is still no other place I would rather live; however, our nation is at a crossroads, not unlike the difficulties faced by our forefathers. Many of the same conditions that prompted the Declaration of Independence prevail in America today. Of the indictments against the King of Great Britain, our Founders declared:

"He has erected a Multitude of new offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harass our People and eat out their Substance."

There are literally hundreds of thousands of government employees administering various regulatory agencies with budgets in the billions of dollars. Regulatory compliance alone exceeds $460 billion annually.

Our Founders, opposed to "taxation without representation," also declared that the King was: "...imposing Taxes on us without our Consent."

Yet, taxation with representation now sees the average American working through May to meet his or her yearly local, state, and federal tax obligations.

Commenting on debt, Benjamin Franklin warned:

"The burden of debt is as destructive to freedom as subjugation by conquest."

Our legislators have not balanced the federal budget since 1969, and the national debt has, since 1980, quadrupled to over $5 trillion. Its monthly interest costs now exceed the yearly interest costs of just twenty years ago.

The Declaration of Independence states:

"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights."

Our second President, John Adams, said:

"You have Rights antecedent to all earthly governments; Rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; Rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe."

Our Rights come from God. Why, then, are we reminded that our Rights come from the state (civil rights)? What the state gives, it can take away.

We frequently hear our nation referred to as a democracy, yet the word is not found in the Constitution. Rather, we see in Article 1, Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government,"

The Pledge of Allegiance contains:

"...and to the Republic, for which it stands..."

Commenting on our form of government, Chief Justice John Marshall stated: "Between a republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."

The Soldiers Training Manual, issued November 30, 1928 gives the following definitions:

"TM 2000-25: 118-120, democracy - A government of the masses. Authority is derived through mass meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic, negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the people shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation, or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, and anarchy."

"TM2000-25: 120-121, republic - Authority is derived through election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights, and a sensible economic procedure. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles, and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress."

1 Corinthians 7:23 says: "You were bought at a price; do not becomes slaves of men."

It was upon this premise that our Founders drafted the Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. At the Constitutional Convention (1787), Benjamin Franklin declared:

"We have been assured...in the Sacred Writings, that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it."

Our duty as a nation was eloquently stated by George Washington: "Whereas it is the duty of nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and to humbly implore His protection and favor..."

Abraham Lincoln recognized this as well:

"It is the duty of nations, as well as of men, to owe their dependence upon the overruling power of God, and to recognize the sublime truth announced in the Holy Scriptures, and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord."

In 1892, the Supreme Court recognized:

"Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise...:"

What would be the reactions to such statements made today? Outcries of "separation of church and state"? Contrary to what is often said, this phrase will not be found in the Constitution.

The foregoing statements attest to the principles which established our Constitutional Republic. Are the difficulties confronting America today the result of disregarding the wisdom and the warnings of our Founders?

Norman Thomas, for many years the U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate, stated:

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened."

We have often heard many debates and discussions about the nation's debt. But who benefits from the $800 million per day interest on the national debt? James 5:3 says: "You have hoarded wealth in the last days."

Who is James referring to? Does this have anything to do with the "New World Order"?

1. What are its goals? 2. Who is promoting it? 3. How much power and influence do they have? 4. How close is it?

Consider these words spoken by James Madison in 1788 as the story unfolds:

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpation."

For centuries, international bankers have enjoyed a lucrative business by financing governments, and command considerable influence in the policies of such governments. Repayment of these loans could usually be guaranteed by the indebted government levying taxes upon its people. If a king or government could not or would not repay its loans, its enemy or rival would be financed. The business of financing wars was very profitable.

As the wealth of these private banking empires increased, they eventually owned, as private corporations, the various central banks of Europe. Predominant among these was the House of Rothschild, with banking houses in major European capitals. Their seat of power was located in London, through control of the Bank of England. By loaning more paper into circulation than gold to back it (fractional reserve banking), they were able to amass fortunes. Some historians contend that by 1850, the House of Rothschild had more wealth than the combined monarchies of Europe.

What better way to expand economic control than by financing Europe's colonization? And what better prize was there than America, with her industrious people and vast resources? The War of Independence was not only independence from English rule, but economic independence as well. Our Founders drafted the Constitution so that only Congress had control over our monetary system, unlike the private monopolies controlling European economics. Thomas Jefferson issued this warning:

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

In 1792, contrary to Jefferson's warning, Alexander Hamilton established a 20 year charter with the Bank of England. When the renewal was denied in 1812, war broke out again. The charter was renewed in 1816. In 1833, President Andrew Jackson removed all moneys from this chartered bank and placed them into state banks. Mexico invaded Texas in 1836 after the renewal was again denied. Some historians say these wars were attempts by the European banking monopolies to disrupt and control America's economy. The Civil War continued this pattern. Abraham Lincoln said:

"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, (and) more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe...corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed."

By the end of the 19th Century, American industrialists and bankers, through the Industrial Revolution, had achieved great wealth. An excellent account of this is Matthew Josephson's 1934 book, entitled "The Robber Barons; the Great American Capitalists 1861-1901~(by Matthew Josephson, Harcourt, Brace and Co. New York 1934; available secondary market).

The industrialists were known as "Big Business" and the Wall Street bankers as the "Money Trust". The most prominent of these was banker J.P. Morgan.

It was Morgan, working with the European banking dynasties, who created the "Financial Panic of 1907". This was an effort to manipulate Congress to approve of a central bank.

In 1912, Woodrow Wilson became President. His chief advisor and administrator was Col. Edward Mandell House, who was a proponent of world government, a representative of the European banking dynasties, and had close ties with the Morgan interests.

In 1912, House wrote a book, wherein he laid out a plan to bring America into a world government. ("Philip Dru: Administrator", by Col. Edward Mandell House, 1912; available at General Birch Services, P.O. Box 8040 Appleton, Wis. 549138040). On page 222, he wrote:

"...our Constitution and our laws...are not only obsolete, but even grotesque."

His plan, and, to use his own words, "a conspiracy," would seek to achieve:

1. The establishment of a central bank; 2. A progressive graduated income tax; and 3. Control of both political parties in the U.S.

What was House's goal? "Socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx". House, who called himself the "unseen guardian angel" of the Federal Reserve Act, in concert with the Wall Street and European bankers, convinced President Wilson of the central bank concept.

The Federal Reserve Act was passed on Dec. 23, 1913 (by a vote of 298 to 60 in the House of Representatives, and 43 to 25 in the Senate).

After the vote, Congressman Charles A. Lindberg, Sr. (father of the famous aviator) told Congress:

"This act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth...When the President signs this act, the invisible government by the money power, proven to exist by the Money Trust Investigation, will be legalized...The new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation..."

The Fed was then able to manipulate the money supply. In the six years prior to the 1929 Stock Market Crash, the Fed increased (or inflated) the money supply 62%, inducing unwise investments and market speculation by the public. When everything was in place, the bankers, who had been financing market speculation, called in their "24 hr. broker call loans", precipitating the Crash.

They were then in a position to loan the government billions of dollars to finance the nation out of the Depression. Congressman Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking Committee, (1920-1931) said this:

"It (the Depression) was not accidental. The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all."

How powerful is the Fed? Congressman Wright Patman, Chairman of House Banking Committee (in the 60's) said:

"In the U.S. today, we have in effect, two governments...we have the duly constituted government...then we have an independent, uncontrolled, and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money powers which are reserved to the Congress by the Constitution."

The Fed has never been audited, and has resisted all attempts to do so. Lt. Col. Archibald Roberts (Director of Committee to Restore the Constitution)began a campaign on March 30, 1971, testifying before Wisconsin legislators about the fraud surrounding the Fed.

(The text of his address is in the Congressional Record, E3212-E3224, entered April 19, 1971). Roberts and other constitutional groups (including Washington state Senator Jack Metcalf) had, by the mid 80's, acquired about 20 states' support calling for audits/reforms, with no success.

Again, in the late 80's, Congressman Henry Gonzales (Texas) called for abolition of the Federal Open Market Committee and the repeal of the Federal Res. Act. (HR 1469, 1470).

Congressman Phil Crane (Illinois) also introduced HR 70, calling for an audit. (Currently, Gonzales and Crane are calling for an audit/reforms under HR 28 and 145; Senator Byron Dorgan, (N. Dakota) is calling for a similar bill in the Senate, S212).

Since Wilson took office, the national debt has risen from $1 billion to over $5 trillion - that's just "on budget" debt. When added to the "off budget" debt of the S&L debacle and unfunded retirement liabilities, the total now exceed our GDP.

Is the country bankrupt? Roosevelt declared so by Executive Orders 6073, 6102, 6111, and also by EO 6260 on March 9, 1933 (as proclaimed under the "Trading With the Enemy Act of 65th Congress, Oct. 6, 1917, and as codified at 12 U.S.C.A. 95a, which allows the President exceptional control under a "state of emergency"). On April 5, 1933, FDR issued this EO:

"All persons are required to deliver on or before May 1, 1933 all gold coins, gold bullion, and gold certificates now owned by them to a Federal Reserve Bank, branch or agency, or to any member bank of the Federal Reserve System."

On June 5, 1933, Congress confirmed the bankruptcy. (through the "Joint Resolution to Suspend The Gold Standard And Abrogate The Gold Clause, June 5, 1933"). This was HJR 192, 73rd Congress, 1st session.

Then, through another EO issued by President Johnson in 1968, silver backing was removed from our currency. This made the country insolvent. The Fed issues currency no longer redeemable for silver. Furthermore, the Fed is not a government institution.

You will never find them listed in phone directories under "government offices". It is a private corporation owned by approximately 300 Class A stockholders. These people own the Fed by owning the stock of the largest member banks in the New York Federal Reserve Bank, which, for all practical purposes, is the Federal Reserve.

The controlling interest is held by less than a dozen international bankers, whose names, until recently, was one of the best-kept secrets of international finance:

1. Rothschild Banks of London & Berlin 2. Lehman Bros. Bank of N.Y. 3. Lazard Bros. Banks of Paris 4. Kuhn, Loeb Bank of N.Y. 5. Israel Moses Sief Banks of Italy 6. Chase Manhattan Bank of N.Y. 7. Warburg Bank of Hamburg & Amsterdam 8. Goldman, Sachs Bank of N.Y.

The most influential of the European interests is the Rothschild family in London. Each of the American interests is, in various ways, connected to this family, including the Rockefellers, who are by far the most powerful of the Fed's American stockholders (primarily through the Chase Manhattan Bank).

Thomas Jefferson issued this warning:

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Today, less than 2% of Americans own their homes.

The Fed, like other central banks, uses a system called "fractional banking." Deposits become the "fraction", allowing the system to "create" as much as 770% of that deposit:

i.e.: a $1,000 deposit becomes approximately $7,700 a $10.000 deposit becomes approximately $77,000.

In addition, examine the "amount due" on your property tax statement: You will not find a dollar sign affixed to that "amount".

Why? The Currency Act of 1792, which has never been revoked, defines a dollar as 412.5 grains of 9/10 fine silver (originally 371.25 grains of 11/12 fine silver). Federal Reserve Notes are not redeemable in silver. To affix a dollar sign to the "amount due" would be fraudulent. They know this ‹ and you don't.

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 5 says that only Congress has the power to..."coin money, regulate the value thereof...and fix the standard of weights and measures.' Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1 says that No State shall...make anything but gold and silver coin a legal tender in payment of debts..." The Federal Reserve operates in violation of the Constitution.

Since Col. House helped establish the Federal Reserve Act, and believed in socialism, is the central bank concept Marxist?

Plank 5 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto reads:

"Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital, and an exclusive monopoly." ‹ communist Manifesto by Karl Marx

House also knew, that in addition to controlling a nation's monetary system, a method of taxation had to be established, and in 1913, the 16th Amendment was passed.

This graduated income tax was hailed by proponents as a "tax on the wealthy" (sound familiar?). Nothing could have been farther from the truth. As with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act,

"Big Business" and the Wall Street bankers publicly denounced, but privately funded its promotion and passage. Why? Through their influence in government circles, they insured the necessary loopholes in the bill were included - tax-exempt foundations. By the time the 16th Amendment was passed, they had already established the Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundations.

Their wealth was allowed to compound tax-free while their competitors were saddled with tax burdens. The Amendment also allowed Congress to increase and broaden the tax on the general public.

Until 1929, the size and cost of the Federal government was Constitutionally limited: it borrowed little money and paid little interest.

The Depression years following the Stock Market Crash changed all this. With the country officially bankrupt in 1933, taxes could now be broadened and increased to finance government borrowing.

Roosevelt's New Deal began the era of entitlements which are with us today.

Two points must be made here:

1) The 16th Amendment was never properly ratified. This has been proven in court. Two of the 36 states that had allegedly ratified the amendment were California and Kentucky - There is no record of California's vote, and Kentucky legislators voted against it 22-9. This violates the amendment procedure of our Constitution, Article V.

2) The 16th Amendment has Marxist roots. Plank 2 of the Communist Manifesto calls for: "a heavy progressive or graduated income tax".

Thus, the conspirators, through financial influence and brilliant deception, had established the mechanisms to:

1. run up the debt; 2. collect the debt; 3. for themselves, to avoid the taxes necessary to pay the interest on the debt.

The pillage of America began in earnest during the Depression. The Fed deflated (reduced) the money supply, forcing thousands into bankruptcy and foreclosure. The following was intended for leading financiers only, and appeared in the Civil Servants' Year Book, "The Organizer", Jan. 1934:

"Capital must protect itself in every way...Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world."

Plank no.1 of the Communist Manifesto is "abolition of private property".

The conspirators knew that the American people had to somehow be convinced into paying for the government borrowing that began during the Depression, Their opportunity came during W.W.II with the victory Tax Act of 1942 (56 Stat, Ch. 619, pg. 884; October 21, 1942). This was a voluntary and temporary measure to help finance the war effort. Why was it voluntary? Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 and Article I, Section 9, Clause 4 of the Constitution forbids direct taxation unless apportioned. Apportionment means to divide equally among the population (census). The last time direct taxes were laid upon the American people by apportionment was during the Civil War.

The Victory Tax Act of 1942 was repealed on May 29, 1944 (58 Stat, Ch. 210, pg. 234). With American patriotism high and D-Day a week away, who would notice that this voluntary unapportioned direct tax had been repealed? The clauses of the Constitution regarding direct taxation are still law. The 16th Amendment gave Congress "no new powers of taxation" (Stanton vs. Baltic Mining Co., 240 U.S. 103). The "...incomes...without apportionment..." in the 16th Amendment places it in the category of an indirect (excise) tax (Brushaber vs. Union Pacific RR Co., 240 U.S. 1). Simply stated, it is a profits tax.

How would the government operate without personal income tax revenues? With imposts, duties, and excises (Article I, Section 8, Clause I). Can you see why NAFTA and GATT is promoted? The 1984 Grace Commission, Report to the President, pg. 4 reveals where personal income taxes go:

"100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal Debt and by Federal transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services taxpayers expect from their government."

Can you begin to see why there have been 195 tax increases since 1933?

Today, three quarters of the Federal budget is unconstitutional, according to Article 1, Section 8, Clauses 2-18. Why do our elected representatives allow this?

Remember, the third item on Col. House's agenda was to control both political parties of the U.S.

"Tragedy and Hope, A History of the World in Our Time" (by Carroll Quigley, 1966, The MacMillan Co., N.Y.; available from Angriff Press, Box 2726, Hollywood, California 90028) was written by Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley.

It was intended as a text for aspiring globalists, and gives a 1300 page account of the history, mechanisms, and goals through which a ruling financial dynasty would control a global economy. On page 52, the author writes that the international bankers were:

"...devoted to secrecy and the secret use of financial influence in political life."

There are two organizations formed by and intimately associated with the international bankers:

1. The Council on Foreign Relations 2. The Tri Lateral Commission

Let's examine briefly their background and their stated goals.

Because America refused to join the League of Nations following WWI, representatives from the American financial dynasties met with their British counterparts in Paris on May 19, 1919.

The American contingent was led by Col. House and became known as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). It was founded on July 29, 1921, backed by Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundation money.

It included many of the same people who established the Federal Reserve. Its quarterly journal, Foreign Affairs, has called for world government as far back as December, 1922.

CFR member James Warburg (whose father Paul Warburg merged his Manhattan Bank with Rockefeller's Chase Bank), a former aide to FDR, told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee this on Feb. 17, 1950:

"You shall have world government, whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."

On Nov. 25th, 1959, the CFR published Study NO.7, which spells out their goal:

"...building a new international order (which) must be responsive to world aspirations for peace (and) for social and economic change... an international order...including states labeling themselves as Socialist."

In the 50th anniversary issue of "Foreign Affairs", a leading article was written by CFR member Kingman Brewster, Jr., entitled "Reflections on Our National Purpose". In this article, he stated that our national purpose should be to abolish our nationality.

In a 1974 article in "Foreign Affairs", entitled "The Hard Road to World Order", CFR member Richard Gardner wrote that the house of world order would have to be built through:

"...an end run around our national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece."

As of June 1992, the CFR has 2905 members in the U.S. (1992 Annual Report, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Harold Pratt House, 58 East 68th St., N.Y., N.Y.10021

The second organization, The Tri Lateral Commission, was formed in 1973 by David Rockefeller (grandson of John D. Rockefeller). David Rockefeller has also been a director of the CFR since 1949.

The Tri Lat was the brainchild of Columbia University professor Zbigriew Bzrezinski, who, in his book "Between Two Ages," advocated an economic alliance among the western industrialized nations.

Rockefeller hired Bzrezinski, made him the executive director, and established a tri-lateral alliance encompassing Japan, North America, and western Europe. Its first meeting was held in Tokyo Oct. 21, 1973.

In Bzrezinski's book, the author states: on page 198 - America is in obsolescence; on page 260 - he advocates central (Marxist) planning; on page 296 - he wants to develop limitations on sovereignty; on page 308 of his 309 page book, he finally states his goal: a world government.

Henry Kissinger is one of the most powerful and influential members of the Tri Lat (also CFR). He was interviewed by columnist Paul Scott, who said that it is Kissinger's belief that by controlling energy, especially oil, one can control nations and their financial systems.

By placing food, oil, and the world's monetary system under international control, Kissinger is convinced that a world government can become a reality. As of April, 1992, the Tri Lateral Commission has 320 members divided up among Japan, North America, and Western Europe. (The Tri Lateral Commission, 345 East 46th Street, N.Y., N.Y. 10017 or call 212-661-1180)

The Tri Lat's goal is a world government, the same as that of the CFR. The first 35 members of the Tri Lat were also members of the CFR. They both have as members some of the most elite names in finance, industry, media, labor, academic circles, and government. Their rosters read like a who's who in these areas.

What's the difference between the CFR and the Tri Lat? The CFR has been around since 1921, the Tri Lat, since 1973. The only difference is the fact that the Tri Lat is an elite group, who's been chosen to speed up the process of a one-world government through the control of food, energy, and an international monetary system. Keep in mind that economic union always precedes political union.

Let's examine the CFR and Tri Lat influence in government. CFR control in government actually began in earnest in 1939 by establishing within the U.S. State Department a "Committee on Post-War Problems", the group (staffed and funded by the CFR) which designed the United Nations. (the story of which is contained in State Dept. Publication 2349-"Report To The President On The Results of the San Francisco Conference").

Since WWII, the CFR has filled key positions in virtually every administration since then. Furthermore, since Eisenhower, every man who has won the nomination for either party (except Goldwater in 1964 and Reagan in 1980) has been a member of the CFR:

DEMOCRATS

1. John W. Davis(1924) 2. Adlai Stevenson (1952,56) 3. John F. Kennedy (196b) 4. Hubert Humphrey (1968) 5. George McGovern (1972) 6. Jimmy Carter (1976,80) 7. Walter Mondale (1984) 8. Michael Dukakis (1988) 9. Bill Clinton (1992)

REPUBLICANS

1. Herbert Hoover (1928,32) 2. Wendell Wilkie (1940) 3. Thomas Dewey (1944,48) 4. Dwight Eisenhower (1952,56) 5. Richard Nixon (1960,68,72) 6. Gerald Ford (1976) 7. George Bush (1988,92) (who was also a director of the CFR 1977-1979)

An important point must be stressed: By controlling the candidates we vote for, the CFR is assured their goal of world government.

Why? Because CFR presidents fill key positions with CFR members by APPOINTMENT. (List of 110 Nixon appts. can be found in "None Dare Call it Conspiracy, by Gary Allen, 1972; available from General Birch Services, P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, Wis. 54913)

Since 1973, Tri Lat members have also filled key positions. One of the first members of the Tri Lat was Jimmy Carter, whose administration had 19 Tri Lateralists including:

1. Vice President Mondale 2. Secretary of State Vance 3. Secretary of the Treasury Blumenthal 4. Secretary of Defense Brown 5. National Security Advisor Bzrezinski

These five positions made up the National Security Council, and were held by members of an organization which advocates world government - was their oath of office to uphold the Constitution a mere formality? Others included:

1) nearly all of the undersecretaries of State; 2) nearly all of the undersecretaries of Treasurer; 3) the Panama Canal Treaty negotiator; 4) the Salt Treaty negotiator; 5) the Ambassador to the U.N. Andrew Young; and 6) the Ambassador to Italy, Richard Gardner (remember, the Israel Moses Sief Banks of Italy are top stockholders in the Fed, and Gardner advocated an "...end run around our national Sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece.")

An article about Bzrezinski(Carter's National Security Advisor, executive director of the Tri Lat, and author of "Between Two Ages") and Carter appeared in the March 1, 1978 New York Times:

"The two men met for the first time about four years ago, when Mr. Bzrezinski was the executive director of the Tri Lateral Commission, and had the foresight to ask the then obscure governor of Georgia to join its ranks. Their initial teacher-student relationship blossomed during the campaign and appears to have grown closer still."

Bzrezinski(teacher)praises Marxism, thinks the U.S. is in obsolescence, and advocates a world government; the student was the President of the United States!

Another article, written by CFR past president Winston Lord, appeared in the August 4-ll, 1978 issue of "W" magazine. He boasted:

"The Tri Lateral Commission doesn't secretly run the world, the Council of Foreign Relations does that."

Winston Lord is currently the Assistant Secretary for East Asian/Pacific Affairs (State Dept.) and special envoy to Red China.

Contrary to candidate Clinton's "stand" on human rights, Red China has recently received an unconditional MFN trade status with the U.S.; never mind that over 10,000 Chinese dissidents have been murdered since Tianemen Square.

The CFR domination of just the last three Administrations reveals:

1. 347 under Reagan; 2. 382 under Bush, and 3. 387 under Clinton (over 1 in 8 of their total membership)

The following CFR members hold top positions in our current Administration:

1. President Bill Clinton 2. Vice President Al Gore 3. Secretary of State Warren Christopher 4. Deputy Secretary of State Clifton R. Wharton 5. CIA Director R. James Woolsey 6. National Security Advisor W. Anthony Lake 7. Deputy National Security Advisor Samuel R. Berger 8. Secretary of Defense Les Aspen 9. Chrmn., Intel. Adv. Bd. William J. Crowe 10. U.N. Ambassador Madeleine Albright 11. Sec. H.& H.S. Donna E. Shalala 12. OMB Alice M. Rivlin 13. Secretary H.U.D. Henry G. Cisneros 14. Chrmn., Council Ec. Advisors Laura D. Tyson 15. Secretary of the Treasury Lloyd M. Bentsen (former CFR) 16. Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbitt 17. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg

There are 370 others as well.

Have you ever wondered why, since WWII, U.S. foreign policy has allowed Communist expansion? Consider the roles of the following CFR members since WWII:

1. George Marshall and Dean Acheson engineered the betrayal of Chiang Kai-shek, allowing communist takeover of China; 2. Dean Acheson and Dean Rusk arranged the no-win undeclared war in Korea and the removal of General McArthur; 3. John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles, under CFR President Eisenhower betrayed Hungarian freedom fighters and knowingly brought Fidel Castro to power in Cuba; 4. McGeorge Bundy, Adlai Stevenson, and John J. McCloy saw to it that the Bay of Pigs invasion to oust Castro failed; 5. Dean Rusk, Robert McNamara, and Henry Cabot Lodge pushed the U.S. into Vietnam - and then drew up the rules making victory impossible; 6. Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger continued these policies, which led to communist takeover of South Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos; 7. Henry Kissinger, Ellsworth Bunker, and Sol Linowitz arranged for the Panama Canal giveaway - and gave $400 million dollars to that Marxist dictatorship to take it; 8. Under leadership of Zbigniew Bzrezinski, Cyrus Vance, and Warren Christopher, the Carter Administration undermined U.S. allies in Iran and Nicaragua; 9. Under Reagan, George Schultz, William J. Casey, and Malcom Baldridge arranged U.S. foreign aid to communist Romania, communist Poland, and the U.S.S.R.; they also impeded anti-Communists in El Salvador and Nicaragua.

Why? It is easier to control oppressive Marxist regimes than nations of free men - in a one-world socialist government.

Yes, Col. House's agenda of controlling both political parties in the U.S. has been achieved, through, as Madison warned, "silent and gradual encroachment." An excellent history of the CFR is found in "The Shadows of Power" (James Perloff, 1988, Western Island Publishers, P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, Wis. 54913, 1-414-749-3783).

Just as Col. House led an American contingent to Paris in 1919, there are also powerful like-minded organizations in Europe, through financial control, promoting a one-world government.

The most prominent of these is the Bilderbergers (est. in 1954), and is largely responsible for the unification of Europe through the Treaty of Rome (1957).

Regardless of where these groups are from, their goal is a world government, and the U.N.. which they established, is the platform from which it will be launched.

The Rockefellers play a key role in America's financial and political life. Currently, David Rockefeller is the honorary chairman of both the CFR and the Tri Lateral Commission, as well as (through his Chase Manhattan Bank) a top stockholder in the Federal Reserve.

The Rockefeller influence goes back to 1890, when John D. Rockefeller was refining nearly 90% of all crude oil in the country, and frequently worked in concert with Wall Street banker J.P. Morgan. By the turn of the century, John D. purchased the Chase Bank and brother William bought the National City Bank of New York, and in 1913, became part of the Federal Reserve System.

The Rockefeller Foundation was also in full operation by that time, effectively nullifying the "tax on the wealthy" as the proponents of 16th Amendment had sought.

According to the Sept. 16, 1916 New York Times, the Rockefeller oil holdings alone were worth $500 million. By 1930, the 200 largest corporations, under Rockefeller and Morgan influence, held over 49% of the assets of all 40,000 corporations in the country.

AT&T (controlled by Morgan) had greater assets than the total wealth in 21 states.

The influence of the Rockefeller and Morgan groups was so great, they could affect the economic life of the country to a large degree and almost control its political life on the Federal level.

The Rockefellers increased their leverage over the economy throughout the Depression years:

1) many of their competitors were hard-hit by the Stock Market Crash; 2) and, being a part of the Fed, the Rockefellers benefited from massive government borrowing; 3) which, in turn, furthered their control of industry, soon to be mobilized for war production.

America's entry into WWII enhanced all of the above, and their wealth continued to be funneled into the tax-exempt foundations.

Following the War, the U.S. was in such bad economic condition, that in 1950, it declared bankruptcy a second time and the Secretary of Treasury was appointed as "Receiver" in the Bankruptcy (Reorganization Plan No. 26, Title 5 U.S.C.A 903, Public Law 94-564, Legislative History, page 5967).

In 1953, Congressman Carroll Reese of Tennessee initiated a Congressional Committee to investigate the tremendous influence of the huge tax-exempt foundations and their control over the economy.

Yet, even Congress had little influence in diminishing the tremendous influence and control the international bankers exercised in the economy. The Rockefeller's wealth continued to expand - their foundations allows their wealth to compound.

Each year the Rockefellers can dump up to half of their income into their foundations and deduct these donations from their income tax. Nelson Rockefeller admitted at his confirmation hearings (for V.P.):

"The foundation pays no capital gains tax and no income tax, so those funds can continue to multiply."

And indeed they have. The following information on the Rockefeller's more current wealth is derived from Congressman Patman's Report in the Congressional Record. What I am about the give you is direct ownership of stock; pay particular attention to the oil companies.

In direct stock, they own: Exxon - 156.7 million; Rockefeller Center - 98 million; Standard of California - 85 million; IBM - 72.6 million; Chase Manhattan Bank - 18 million. Others that they have 10 million or more in are: Mobil Oil, Eastman Kodak, General Electric, Texas Instruments, Minnesota Mining & Mfg., and they own significant portions of about 50 other major American companies.

A look at their security holdings reveals: They control Chase-Manhattan Bank, City National Bank of New York, and Chemical Bank, among others; these are in the top of the list.

The Chase Manhattan Bank deals in many foreign countries as well as corporations: well over 100 countries with about 50,000 affiliated banks.

A look at the interlocking boards of directors in the insurance industry, at the time this data was compiled, the Rockefellers controlled 3 of the 4 largest insurance companies in the world, that being Metropolitan Life, Equitable Life, and New York Life.

The assets of these three at that time was $113 billion. They control others as well.

Just to summarize the banks and insurance companies, this amounts to 25% of all the assets of the 50 largest banks, and 30% of all the assets of the 50 largest life insurance companies. This gives them leverage over the economy that goes far beyond direct ownership.

Congressman Patman also found that if you control 5% or more of the stock in a corporation, whose stock is widely held, you have in effect, minority control. If we take those corporations that the Rockefeller family has 10% control, or 5%, and at least two members of their board of directors, we have the following: Exxon, Mobil Oil, Standard of California, Standard of Indiana, International Harvester, Inland Steel, Marathon Oil, Quaker Oats, Wheeling-Pittsburgh Steel, Freeport Sulphur, and International Basic Economy Corporation.

Corporations which are probably under Rockefeller influence, and I say probably, because it's extremely difficult to trace stock ownership through trusts and foundations, are these: Texaco, IT&T, Westinghouse, Boeing, International Paper, Sperry Rand, Xerox, National Cash Register, National Steel, American Home Products, Pfizer, Avon, and Merck.

Merck has just agreed to buy Medco Containment, the nation's largest marketer of discount prescription medicines. The acquisition makes Merck, by far, the biggest integrated producer and distributor of pharmaceuticals in the country. (Wall Street Journal, 7-29-93).

Transportation companies under the Rockefeller influence include Penn Central, TWA, Eastern Airlines, United Airlines, National Airlines, Delta, Braniff, and Consolidated Freightways.

Others they control through interlocking boards of directors are: Allied Chemical, Annaconda Copper, DuPont, Monsanto, Olin-Mathison, Borden, National Distillers, Shell, Gulf, Union Oil,.Dow, Celanese, Pittsburgh Plate Glass, Cities Service, Stauffer Chemical, Continental Oil, Union Carbide, American Cyanamid, American Motors, Bendix, and Chrysler. Isn't that odd?

Who's the biggest stock holders in Chrysler and you had to bail them out? Other's are CIT Financial, SS Kresge and RH Macy.

To summarize what I've just given you, that's 37 of the top 100 industrials, 9 of the top 20 transportation firms, the nation's No. 1 utility, three of the top four insurance companies, plus scores of smaller companies engaged in manufacturing, distribution, retail sales, loans or investments. These are just the known figures.

So can you start to see the economic power the Rockefeller family Now, in addition to this, recognize the power they have through the membership in the Tri Lateral Commission and the CFR through other heads of multi national corporations.

There were published several reports under the Senate Investigating Subcommittee on Reports, Accounting, and Management." They're under the "Committee on Governmental Affairs, United States Senate, January 1978."

The first report is entitled " Interlocking Boards of Directors Among Major U.S. Corporations".

This Senate study looked at the top 130 corporations and placed every name of every board of directors into a computer and found this: 70% of the top 130 corporations are interlocked directly or indirectly with the lower companies. They even found many competing companies and corporations have the same board of directors and several members of the same board of directors, which is illegal according to Section 8 of the Clayton Act.

When this point is reached, you don't have competition anymore, you have price-fixing. Some of these people were sitting on 16 difference boards of directors! In the April 1993 IBM proxy statement, this can be demonstrated. Also, 8 of these 18 directors are CFR. (IBM Notice of 1993 Annual Meeting and Proxy Statement; IBM, Armonk, N.Y. 10504)

The second report the same committee did was called "Voting Rights-Major U.S. Corporations". They looked at 122 corporations and found this: One corporation, Morgan Guaranty and Trust, was in the top five vote-holders of 57 of those corporations; another, City National Bank of New York, was in the top five voteholders of 36 of those.

That's 93 of the top 122 corporations. Now, who was the top vote-holder in the parent company of Morgan Guaranty and Trust? Number one was City National Bank of New York, and number two was the Chase Manhattan Bank, which means that the Rockefellers controlled Morgan Guaranty and Trust and also the City National Bank of New York. The Rockefellers are in the top five voteholders in 93 of those 122 corporations. This is what the Subcommittee found in 1978. Why didn't we hear about it? At that time, half of the members of the Senate Subcommittee over this study were CFR/Tri Lat.

There shouldn't be much doubt who controls the oil here. But what about the Middle East oil? Now, supposedly, OPEC has nationalized, in most cases, the oil fields over there. Aramco, an oil consortium of Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, and SOCAL got 42% on every petrodollar and OPEC 58% during the late 70's "energy crisis ". Do you think it bothered them that the price of gas doubled while the media was telling us there was an oil shortage?

The Tri Lat "engineered" the crisis. Its planning publication is called the "Triangle Papers". On page 73 of Publication No. 17, entitled "Energy: Managing the Transition (1978), we find this:

"We therefore urge each Tri Lateral government to review its tax structure and develop specific energy taxes. An obvious example here is a higher federal excise tax on gasoline in the United States."

In other words, they created the crisis, and we paid for it at the pumps through higher prices and higher taxes. Who got blamed? OPEC.

The same people who control the oil here also exercise control in the Middle East. According to the 1974 report of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Multinational Corporations, the Aramco consortium attempted to block America's emergency airlift to Israel, during the Yom Kippur War of 1973.

These companies cooperated closely with Saudi Arabia to deny oil and fuel to the U.S. Navy. In the 1930's, it was Standard Oil (Rockefeller) money that established the oil industry over there - Makes one wonder about Desert Storm.

Remember, it is Kissinger's belief that a world government can be brought about by controlling an international monetary system, oil/energy, and food. Consider how far the control of food has gotten:

In the seventies, Senator Gannon ran a study in five counties of Kansas. He found that 85,000 acres over the 8,OOO acres legal limit were illegally owned by large multinational corporations.

The American Agriculture paper also reported that six coal companies, who were in turn controlled by the oil companies, owned somewhere in the neighborhood of 80% of the farm land in Illinois. These are just a few examples.

Remember, in 1973, the Tri Lateral Commission was formed, and in 1973 the large multinational corporations started diversifying. Into what? Food.

Through interlocking directors, at the time of this study, Gulf was interlocked with General Foods and Ralston Purina; Mobil Oil with General Foods and H.J. Heinz; Standard of California with American Potato, Basic Vegetable Products, and Broadway Hale Stores; Atlantic Richfield Co. with Lincoln County Livestock, and Diamond A Cattle; Philips Petroleum with Campbell Soup; Citgo with Kraft and Campbell Soup; Getty Oil with A&P and Carnation; Standard Oil Of Ohio with National Biscuit; Hesslup with Borden; Safeway is controlled by the Chase Manhattan Bank; Tenneco controlled. at the time Of this report, approximately one and a half million acres of land, gas, oil, and chemicals; IT&T is interlocked with Wonderbread;

Case (farm implements) and International Harvester are controlled by the Rockefellers and John Deere S president, at that time, a member of the Tri Lateral Commission.

Who was the biggest beef producer through feedlots and fatteners? Greyhound bus. Who was the biggest pork producer in the world? Arnior, owned by Greyhound bus. One Of the largest cattle feeders by volume in the U.S. as well as one Of the largest grain companies is Cargill, (run by Whitney McMillan, Tri Lat member), and they bought Missouri Beef, one Of the largest beef packing plants.

Does the recent "collapse" of the U.S.S.R. tie into the New World Order? The plans to bring the Soviet Union into a one-world government goes back to 1907. The very same people who established the Federal Reserve Act, the graduated income tax, and the CFR also bankrolled the Bolshevik Revolution. This was a well-known fact in intelligence circles at that time.

In 1953, CFR member H. Rowan Gaither (Chairman of Ford Foundation) made a statement to Norman Dodd (chief investigator for the special Congressional Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations):

"We shall use our grant-making power to SO alter life in the United States that we can be comfortably inerged with the Soviet Union."

Consider the following excerpts from the Washington Post Weekly (May 4, 1992):

"The IMF, the World Bank, and the major industrial nations have decided to take a risk with Russia and former Soviet Republics... Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yegor Gaidar...last week swept through Washington, reassuring business leaders, as well as finance ministers and central bankers from the Group Of Seven major industrial nations."

"In an effort to get the banking system under control, Gerald Corrigan, the President Of the New York Federal Reserve Bank (CFR/Tri Lat), has been visiting Moscow regularly since September (1991) to advise the Central bank and commercial banks. An acquaintance Of former Fed Chairman Paul A. Volcker (CFR/Tri Lat), Says Volcker is close to an agreement that would make him consultant to Russian President Boris Yeltzin."

"In addition, David Rockefeller (CFR/Tri Lat), a former Chairman Of the Chase Manhattan Bank, says he has agreed to be part Of a group Corrigan is assembling that might help establish banking business in Russia."

"Once the IMF program is in place, the World Bank will supply direct support to the agriculture and oil sectors Of the Russian economy."

"The oil Sector is enough to solve any financial Crisis they (the Russians) might have", says World Bank President Lewis Preston (CFR & formerly with Morgan Guaranty). He says there are 33 undeveloped fields in W. Siberia."

Isn't that interesting? The World Bank and the IMF are "supporting" the agriculture and oil sectors thereby controlling the food and energy. It would be more accurate to say that the CFR/Tri Lat are controlling the agriculture and oil sectors.

Furthermore, the CFR/Tri Lat involvement in Russia's central bank has recently (July 26, 1993) mandated a call in of all pre-1993 rubles, crippling the ability of the Russian citizen to provide for his family.

Not only does the U.S. taxpayer underwrite about 20% of the IMF and World Bank funding, but the afore-mentioned "G-7i' central bankers are also stockholders in our Federal Reserve.

Yeltzin is working closely with the CFR/Tri Lat - what about Gorbachev? I have a transcript of Gorbachev's May 6, 1992 speech given at Westminster College. On page 9 he states:

"However, even now, at a time of sharply increased interdependence in the world, many countries are morbidly jealous of their sovereignty, many peoples of their national independence and identity - This is one of the newest global contradictions, one which must be overcome by joint effort." (Speech May 6, 1992, Westminster College, "The River of Time and the Imperative of Action" pg 9, by Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev.)

In Vancouver earlier this year, President Clinton promised Yeltzin $1.6 billion in direct assistance, in addition to the billions promised by the G-7; Yet most Americans have no idea as to how long and how much Western aid and trade has gone into the USSR since 1917.

1) After the Bolshevik Revolution, Standard Oil of New Jersey (Rockefeller) bought 50% of Nobel's huge Caucasus oil fields;

2) In 1927, Standard Oil of New York (Rockefeller) built a refinery in Russia;

3) In 1928, Rockefeller's Chase Bank was involved in selling Bolshevik Bonds in the U.S. - patriotic organizations denounced Chase as an "international fence".

In the Congressional Record of June 15, 1933, Congressman Louis McFadden said:

"The Soviet government has been given U.S. Treasury funds by the Federal Reserve Banks acting through the Chase Bank and Morgan Guaranty Trust Co. and other banks in New York City...Open up the books of Amtorg, the trading organization of the Soviet government in New York, and of Gostorg, the general office of the Soviet Trade Organization, and the State Bank of the U.S.S.R. and you will be staggered to see how much American money has been taken from the U.S. Treasury for the benefit of Russia. Find out what business has been transacted for the State Bank of Soviet Russia by its correspondent, the Chase Bank of New York".

I might add that Congressman McFadden later died under "mysterious circumstances".

The following information is derived from Antony Sutton's comprehensive book "Best Enemy Money Can Buy", ( by Antony Sutton, 1986, Liberty House Press, 2027 Iris Ln., Billings, Montana 59102) Sutton is acknowledged as the foremost expert on western technology and Soviet economic development.

He was a research fellow at the Hoover Institute On War & Peace; and therefore had access to information most researchers outside establishment circles were denied. Revealing this information cost him his job. Sutton documents that:

1) Ford set up the Gorki vehicle plant in 1929, upgraded by the Lend-Lease programs of WWII; vehicles produced in this plant were used against U.5. troops in Korea and Vietnam;

2) The Soviet tank industry began in 1929 under the guise of producing tread-type tractors; The Stalingrad plant was entirely constructed in the U.S., dismantled, and re-erected in the U.S.S.R. by American engineers. This was just one of several which utilized American machine tools and equipment;

3) In 1946, the Soviets bought 55 Rolls Royce turbo-jet engines from Great Britain, and reproduced them in quantity on American and German machine tools. These engines powered the MiG-15 fighters, used against our F-86 Sabre jets in Korea;

4) 37 of the 96 Soviet ships regularly employed on the "Haiphong Run" during the Vietnam War (keeping North Vietnam supplied) used diesel engines of western origin. The missile-carrying Soviet ships of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis were propelled by engines produced in Denmark - a NATO ally;

5) From 1960 until 1972, the Soviets sought acquisition of a specialized machine tool manufactured by the Bryant Chucking Company of Springfield, Vermont. This machine, the "Centalign B", produced high-precision miniature ball bearings, supplying 85% of its output to the U.S. defense industry for guidance systems in our missiles. Under President Nixon and National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger, approval was given in 1972 to export 164 of these machines to the U.S.S.R. By 1974, the Soviets had MIRV'd their ICBMs. This was made public on March 8, 1983 by Secretary of Defense Casper Weinberger, stating that the greatly improved accuracy of Soviet missiles was derived from U.S. technology;

6) In the 70's, the Kama River truck plant was built in the Soviet Union. It covers 36 square miles and can produce 100,000 multiaxle 10-ton trucks/year. 75% of the equipment and technology is from the U.S.; 25% is Italian and European, including European subsidiaries of U.S. companies. American taxpayers underwrote the Kama River financing through the Export/Import Bank. Chase Manhattan (Rockefeller was the lead financier. It was built by the Pullman - Swindell Co. (a subsidiary of M.W. Kellogg Co.) of Pittsburgh;

7) The Volgograd automobile plant, built 1968-1971, has a capacity of 600,000 vehicles/year. Three-fourths of the equipment were U.S. manufacture, including key transfer lines and automated tools. The construction contract was awarded to Fiat S.P.A., a firm closely associated with the Chase Manhattan Bank;

8) The 647 mile highway which connects the U.S.S.R. with Kabul, Afghanistan was under construction in 1966, built with Soviet money and U.S. foreign aid money. A 67 mile stretch of road through the Salang Pass cost $42 million, prompting a U.S. engineer to say it was the costliest section of road he had ever seen. This highway felt the rumble of Soviet tanks, heavy trucks, and military vehicles (many produced with American equipment and money) in December, 1979 when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. The results - over one million casualties.

Richard F. Starr, a former U.S. Ambassador, has said that the former Soviet Union has stored at least 362 million metric tons of grain (much of it from the West), in fallout shelters. These supplies, according to University of N. Carolina economist Steven Rosefield, could feed the entire population of the former U.S.S.R. for 3-4 years.

In addition, there are reserves in 87 cities throughout the U.S.S.R. giving them total reserves in excess of 5 years. By contrast, the U.S. has 30-45 days of reserves. These Soviet reserves, given to them by the U.S. through credits with deferred payments, are being paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.

Senator Malcom Wallop (R-Wy.) pointed out that Soviet indebtedness is estimated to be at least $100 billion and that Western loans to Soviet banks located in the West are not included in that figure; 80% of these loans are "untied", not restricted to any program or project. As of 1990, $700 million a month were being loaned to the Soviet government.

In the meantime, the U.S. has spent billions in defense budgets to protect us from those who are recipients of not only loans and credits, but our technology as well! ("Best Enemy Money Can Buy" contains Appendix F: "U.S.firms trading with the Soviet Union in the 1960-1986 period, pages 231-235).

David Funderburk, a former Ambassador to Romania under the Reagan Administration, stepped down from his post in protest of U.S. policy toward Communist Romania and Eastern Europe. In his book, "Betrayal of America", he documents the collaboration between the leadership elite of the State Department and the Communist countries:

"...we're propping up Communist regimes which are bankrupt and would fall without our aid...aid from the U.S. government, from big business, and from big banks in America..." (Betrayal of America" by David B. Funderburk, former U.S. Ambassador to Romania, 1991, Dist. by Betrayal of America, P.O. Box 1124, Dur.n, N. Carolina 28334).

In his book, "Reminiscences", John D. Rockefeller informs us:

"One of our greatest helpers has been the State Department in Washington. Our ambassadors, and ministers, and consuls have aided to push our way into new markets to the utmost corners of the world."

Is it any wonder? The CFR has dominated the State Department since WWII.

Why don't we hear about these things from the media? At the 1991 Bilderbergers' (European-based globalists) meeting in Baden Baden, Germany, the opening speaker was David Rockefeller. He said this:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine, and other publications whose directors have attended our meetings, and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years...It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years."

Who was among the invited guests? Bill Clinton and Dan Quayle. Among the communication corporations represented in the CFR/Tri Lat are these:

1. CBS 2. NBC 3. ABC 4. PBS 5. CNN 6. Washington Post 7. New York Times Co. 8. Wall Street Journal 9. Newsweek 10. U.S. News and World Report 11. Time, Inc 12. Associated Press and Reuters (both of which local papers rely upon)

CFR members who are TV news personalities include:

1. Dan Rather 2. Tom Brokaw 3. David Brinkley 4. John Chancellor 5. Barbara Walters 6. Diane Sawyer 7. Robert NcNeil 8. Jim Lehrer 9. Daniel Schorr

David Brinkley (CFR), to a meeting of the American TV/Radio Broadcasters Association, said this of the American people:

"All they know about public policy is what we tell them."

Sadly enough - true.

Scripture warns us about ignorance. Hosea 4:6:

"My people are destroyed from a lack of knowledge."

Public ignorance and apathy are allies of the globalists, and only recently have we heard the brazen call for a New World Order. Yet this phrase is nothing new - It has been on the back of a one dollar bill since 1935. Under the pyramids the Latin phrase "Novus Ordo Seclorum", which means a "new secular order of the age;" in other words, a new world order without God.

The conspirators are confident of bringing in a one-world government, which includes plans to scrap our Constitution. They have been quietly acquiring the necessary 34 states' approval to call up a Constitution Convention (ConCon) in an effort to install a new constitution. ("New States of America" from "The Emerging Constitution", by Rexford G. Tugwell, 1974, Harper & Row). it is already written, and has been largely promoted by a group called the "Committee on a Constitutional System" (C.C.S). 19 of its 51-member board of directors are also members of the CFR. C. Douglas Dill (CFR, former Sec. Treasury) said:

"Such a significant shift in our Constitution is unlikely to come about except as a result of a crisis that is very grave indeed."

A financial crisis today would further their goals just as it did in 1929.

Will the new "deficit reduction bill" help the country or hasten a crisis? The majority of the bill's spending cuts will not take place until the President's term is over; in the meantime, over $800 million interest each and every day will be added to the debt.

Will a balanced budget amendment (BBA) reign in spending? Every BBA proposal in Washington today would allow Congress to override any such amendment by a 60% vote. If Congress was sincere, a simple majority vote in the House (218) and the Senate (51) would balance the budget.

Remember, the country is still bankrupt; Furthermore, the Secretary of the Treasury is also the Governor of the International Monetary Fund (IMF). This is an alien/foreign financial institution (22 U.S.C.A. 286).

What does this mean? Look on the back of any returned check you mailed to the IRS for federal taxes since 1976: you will find that it has been endorsed by a Federal Reserve Bank.

Who owns the Fed? Your tax payment was allowed to go right out of the country! The definition of the national debt means all obligations owed by the Treasury Department to its creditors - i.e., the international bankers.

The real motive behind a balanced budget amendment is not to reign in spending, but to adopt a new Constitution. How close are they? They have 32 of the required 34. The American public got duped into the Federal Reserve Act and the 16th Amendment. Would it be any different now? Hosea 4:6:

"My people are destroyed from a lack of knowledge."

A number of things could precipitate a crisis, and like in 1929, could bring about a run on the banks. The President could invoke "Emergency Banking Regulation No. 1", which would restrict your right to withdraw on your bank account, and "...prohibit withdrawals of cash in any case...that such withdrawal is sought for the purpose of hoarding."

The following Executive Orders were combined by Richard Nixon into E.O. No. 11490, which activates all of the following under national emergency conditions:

* EO 10995 provides for the control of the communications media * EO 10997 provides for the control of the power, fuels, and minerals * EO 10998 provides for the control of all food and farms * EO 10999 provides for the control of all transportation, highways, etc. * EO 11000 provides for the mobilization of all civilians into work brigades under government supervision * EO 11001 provides for control of all health, education, and welfare * EO 11002 designates the postmaster to operate a national registration of all persons * EO 11003 provides for control of all airports and aircraft * EO 11004 provides for relocation of any populations * EO 11005 provides for control of railroads, waterways, and public storage facilities

A one-world government would require a world law, a world court, and for enforcement, a world army. You can understand why our Constitution must be scrapped, because Article 1, Section 8, clauses 13-16 gives Congress exclusive power over our armed forces. The sovereignty of our nation depends upon its ability to defend itself. Period.

What provisions would place our armed forces under a one-world government?

In Volume 9, of the 25 Volume set of the 1982 United States Code, on pages 554-558, you will find Public Law 87-297, which calls for the disarmament of the U.S. This has been in force since 1961.

This is further explained in "The Blueprint for Peace Race" as "Publication No. 4, General Series 3" published by the U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, May, 1962. An abridged version of this is State Department Document 7277. (Department of State, Disarmament Series 5, released September 1961, Office of Public Services, Bureau of Public Affairs, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C.)

The armed forces of this country are to be, in three stages, placed under the U.N. Undersecretary for Political and Security Council Affairs. This position has always overseen all U.N. military operations since 1946 - it has also been held by a Soviet this entire time (except 1954-1957, held by a communist from Yugoslavia). At the present, our troops in Somalia serve under Turkish General Bir, who answers to Russian U.N. Undersecretary Vladimir Petrovsky. The American public is being warmed up to the idea of U.S. troops serving a foreign flag, under the auspices of "humanitarian assistance."

Furthermore, the disarmament plan has provisions to permanently station foreign U.N. troops in our closed military bases, for "training". Of course, the media will tell us how much this will help the local economies.

At the end of stage 1 (of 3 stages), one half of our armed forces are to be placed under U.N. control, and all citizen-owned guns banned, hence the myth that gun control is crime control. What they don't say is that, under a world government, all populations must be disarmed. In this country, names would be collected from registration forms required by the 1968 Gun Control Act (which is patterned from the 1938 Nazi "Law on Weapons").

Why would the military leadership of this country, sworn to defend it, allow the armed forces to be placed under a U.N. flag?

CFR members, Defense Department

1. Sec. Defense Les Aspin 2. Undersec. for Policy Frank G. Wisner II 3. Asst. Sec. Internat'l Security Affairs Henry S. Rowen 4. Deputy Asst. Sec. Nuclear Fcs./Arms Control Frank C. Miller 5. Deputy Asst. Sec. Europe and NATO W. Bruce Weinrod 6. Chmn. Defense Policy Bd. Adm. Seymour Weiss 7. Sec. Army Michael P.W. Stone 8. Sec. Air Force Donald B. Rice CFR members, Joint Chiefs of Staff

1. Chairman Gen. Colin Powell 2. Army Gen. Carl E. Vuono 3. CO Pac AF Gen. Merrill A. McPeak 4. Dir. Strat. Plans/Policy Lt. Gen. George L. Butler 5. Com., Air Univ Lt. Gen. Charles T. Boyd 6. AF Inspector Gen. Lt. Gen. Bradley C. Hosmer

CFR members, past Sec. of Defense CFR members, past Allied Supreme Commanders

1. 1957-59 McElroy 1949-52 Eisenhower 2. 1959-61 Gates 1952-53 Ridgeway 3. 1961-63 McNamara 1953-56 Gruenther 4. 1969-73 Laird 1956-63 Norstad 5. 1973 Richardson 1963-69 Lemnitzer 6. 1975-77 Rumsfeld 1969-74 Goodpaster 7. 1977-81 Brown 1974-79 Haig 8. 1981-87 Weinberger 1979-87 Rogers 9. 1987-89 Carlucci 10. 1989-93 Cheney 11. 1993- Aspin

There are, however, many in our armed forces who are patriotic to this nation. Pray for them.

As James Madison warned, there has been a:

"silent and gradual encroachment of those in power."

We are on the verge of "global tyranny", as Jasper so aptly states.

We are a Constitutional Republic, steeped in Christian heritage and guaranteed certain God-given inalienable rights. I will repeat this again: we have God-given rights - we are accountable to Him for everything, including our liberty and freedom.

Our rights carry responsibilities. To dismiss those responsibilities is a sin of omission, no different than a sin of commission - God detests both. Proverbs 13:22 says:

"A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children."

Over 957,000 patriotic Americans have given their lives in defense of our country. Their legacy is the freedom and liberty we now have. We are their posterity. Don't let their sacrifice become in vain.

Although we are not on the battlefields of France, or an atoll in the Pacific, or a hill in Korea, or a jungle in Vietnam, or even a desert in Saudi Arabia, we are indeed engaged in a battle.

That battlefield is in America. A war is being waged against God, country, and family. Why? We are not only the last bastion of freedom, but 85% of the Great Commission (Mt. 28:19, 20) emanates from America.

What can we do?

1) Invite the Lord into your life. Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world (I John 4:4);

2) Become informed, not misinformed. You know whose camp the major media is in - and it's not in yours. The best publication I know of for becoming informed is "The New American" magazine, a bi-weekly publication written by people who embrace the same ideals as our Founders (P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, Wisconsin 54913, 1-800-341-1522),

3) Pray for your elected representative - many have forgotten what "representative" means. Voice your concerns to them - but do so from a perspective of knowledge and insight. There are many groups who address the effects - but have no insight as to the cause.

4) Are you one of those people who say, "I don't know where the money goes - it costs twice as much to live beyond my means as it use to"? Romans 13:8 says:

"Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another."

If you live by the world system, you will be subjugated by the same.

Alexis De Tocqueville, in 1840, made the following observation after his visit in America:

"I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors...; in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of higher learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."

What is the alternative? A New World Order, which will make us, as Paul warns, slaves of men. Amen.

Despite ones opinion of philosophy, religion, government or the New World Order, I'm interested if anyone can find errors in this?

1 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:07:00 PDT by Uncle Bill


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: jbs; preciousbodilyfluids; sapandimpurify; shadowgovernment
To: Uncle Bill

Excellent work Bill.

God Bless America !

2 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:15:35 PDT by Search4Truth [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Wow! Very succinctly put! Sad, also...

3 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:26:16 PDT by TBoone [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Quote Of The Day Submitted by: edlinn

4 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:34:48 PDT by RJayneJ [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill and EVERYONE ELSE: read this, remember it, copy to file, whatever you have to do...

Uncle Bill,

THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!

And a bump back to the top.

5 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:42:42 PDT by Darth Sidious (D-Sidious@excite.com) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Great post, thanks.

6 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:48:17 PDT by Astonished [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

May God bless you and yours and keep you all safe during the coming conflagration. I have admired you much.

Not good enough, said Thompson. Supported by the committee's senior Democrat (Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut), he launched his own investigation and began taking depositions this week. Thompson is inured to failure after five years of Justice Department run-arounds, but this time he plans full investigative techniques -- perhaps even fingerprints. All for some missing notes on a virtually forgotten scandal? Thompson is really aiming at what he calls the "shadow government" that controls both Justice and its nominal chief, Attorney General Janet Reno.

Here we have a senior Republican Senator admitting that a significant part of the federal government is run by a shadow government. Anyone who misses the significance of this is not paying attention, doesn't care about freedom, or is a plant from the dark side. IMHO

7 Posted on 10/01/1999 22:48:37 PDT by bondhue1 [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Has the time come? I cry from what you have written, because I have feel these things to be true.

8 Posted on 10/01/1999 23:18:08 PDT by RURIK [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

So that's why clinton gets away with his crimes---CFR keeps him untouchable to do the job of the NWO(I mean "The American People").

9 Posted on 10/01/1999 23:54:19 PDT by Turtleman [ Reply | To 8 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump for the late night crowd.

10 Posted on 10/02/1999 01:20:34 PDT by Turtleman [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bttt, great Saturday morning fare.

# Identified Goals # Identified Motives

In this framework, the foreign policy agenda of this nation finally makes some sense, as do the economic, and social agendae foisted upon us by our not so two party system of government.

Go given the above scenario, what do you think the differences are between, Gore, Clinton, Bush, McCain, Buchanan, Forbes, Keyes, and Dole?

Yet as Americans, we are totally unsuited to stand up own our own two feet we have become so interdependent. Y2K poses a threat only from the standpoint that people are unable to care for themselves in this interdependent economy. We, for the most part have become slaves to the system.

The elitist would scourge the earth of most of us, leaving just enough slave labor to ensure their cushy life style. Look at Gore's book and what he thinks is a sustainable world population. It's but a small fraction of what we currently have. I don't think that this massive population reduction is going to be voluntary, you know like through natural attrition, retirement, etc..

Now we are being preped by the government for chemical and biological terrorist attacks, gee how convienent, Y2K distruptions, etcetera.

I wonder if the europeans are being preped like this, i.e., British Intelligence warns that Britian is vunerable to chemical, biological and information warfare attacks in conjuction with the Y2K rollover by its enemies? What are those in Spain, Italy, France, Germany being told regarding possible terrorist attacks in conjunction with Y2K? For crying out loud, there have been more terrorist activities in western europe than have ever been conducted here.

Or could it be that because American citizens are well armed that it's necessary for these terrorist attacks by foreign enemies (real or imagined) or home grown right wing radicals, religous zealots, white supremicists, hate groups, militias, and millenium freaks have to occur before they can justify disarming us. Look at those poor puppies in Australia disarmed and defenseless. Thank God our Founding Fathers established a Republic recognizing our basic God given rights.

While I can't say that I'm a huge Pat Buchanan fan, you have to give him some credit. I just hope he doesn't end up like George Wallace and he will if he starts making some progress and pulling voters to his camp. George Wallace early campaign success scared the living crap outta the One World wannabes. While I can't say I approved of his position on integration, I really must admire his guts for standing up for States Rights. Buchanan will be waxed if his national sovereignty issue starts making headway with the voters.

11 Posted on 10/02/1999 05:48:13 PDT by runamuk (candor@mindspring.com) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill; Alamo-Girl

Great - and informative, not to mention frightening - post, Uncle Bill.

A-G: For possible inclusion in your DSL.

12 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:08:18 PDT by logos (logos@searnet.com) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I will read this when I can...looks awesome. BTTT.

13 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:09:14 PDT by revolted [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill & bondhue1

As bondhue1 brought out about Thompson's comment on Shadow government, it's coming out of the shadows rapidly now. Their inbred arrogance leads them into a feeling of invulnerability. Maybe they are, but many of us won't stop trying to get the glazed eyes to see clearly.

Most of us also realize that Divine intervention is the only real fix for the problem. That'll happen also.

14 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:31:39 PDT by NDCORUP (NDCORUP@aol.com) [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

It is obvious that a republic in its rawest form provides far too many liberties for the boys who want to maintain power to be comfortable.

The contents of this article will never be taken seriously by the Rush Limbaughs and George Wills of the world, and to that extent, they are just as complicit in maintaining the power structure as are the Brokaws and Geraldos. The current political spectrum from conservative to liberal will not take this article seriously unless it is prepackaged as "KooK" material.

Sedition is the only answer if you believe the CFR runs things, and, I am afraid, we are far too comfortable to go down that painful road.

15 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:35:24 PDT by mcurb [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

"All they know about public policy is what we tell them."

The times they are a'changin'.

16 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:38:57 PDT by Boyd [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Boyd

BTTT

17 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:52:44 PDT by runamuk (candor@mindspring.com) [ Reply | To 16 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Great post, UB. I often harken back to the fact that Communism always needed tremendous support to thrash about on the world scene as it did. Then you ask yourself, who supported them, and why?

18 Posted on 10/02/1999 06:55:48 PDT by Mmmike [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

BUMP!

19 Posted on 10/02/1999 07:04:17 PDT by Eastbound [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Things that go "BUMP" in the night. Moo.

20 Posted on 10/02/1999 07:26:27 PDT by RISU [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

You would all be interested in www.fame.org. JB

21 Posted on 10/02/1999 07:34:25 PDT by Jason_b [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Boyd

bttt

22 Posted on 10/02/1999 08:51:09 PDT by bondhue1 [ Reply | To 16 | Top | Last ] To: Jason_b

Bookmark...and, Fame (Jason's link)

23 Posted on 10/02/1999 09:13:05 PDT by Le-Roy [ Reply | To 21 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Sadly, all the sleepwalkers who need to read this post, wont. Half of them are at the game, the other half are at the mall.

24 Posted on 10/02/1999 09:28:13 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Another outstanding post, Uncle Bill!

25 Posted on 10/02/1999 09:32:46 PDT by Toot Uncommon [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Wasn't it Krushev(cannot spell correctly) that said the communists would sell America the rope with which to hang itself?

I am curious now to find out how many of these big corporate communists are in china celebrating 50 years of communism. I heard something like 1500 corporations were over there. Was supposed to be published in the Fortune 500 magazine.

26 Posted on 10/02/1999 10:27:08 PDT by rightside [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Let's bump it and see if any sleepwalkers stumble over it ;-)

27 Posted on 10/02/1999 14:27:33 PDT by NDCORUP (NDCORUP@aol.com) [ Reply | To 24 | Top | Last ] To: NDCORUP

bttt

28 Posted on 10/02/1999 14:48:33 PDT by MSSC6644 (mssc6644@aol.com) [ Reply | To 27 | Top | Last ] To: MSSC6644

"I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."

Can't seem to get that across to most folks now. Can We?

29 Posted on 10/02/1999 16:36:25 PDT by NDCORUP (NDCORUP@aol.com) [ Reply | To 28 | Top | Last ] To: NDCORUP

Since "good" is a relative term these days, and because so few pulpits ring with the "truth," I fear that America will lose her greatness.

30 Posted on 10/02/1999 17:19:24 PDT by MSSC6644 (mssc6644@aol.com) [ Reply | To 29 | Top | Last ] To: NDCORUP

I'll bump you right back!

31 Posted on 10/02/1999 17:51:11 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 27 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

I hope that these evil people are judged by God. If they have caused the wars, if they have caused the hunger, misery, death, torture, of so many humans...I hope they hear the screams of horror in their sleep. I have heard that seeds for crops will be made to only produce one crop, the seeds of these crops will not grow food. Is this true? We will be dependent on them for our food and fuel. They will starve us to death or freeze us to death....God help us.

32 Posted on 10/02/1999 20:45:20 PDT by RURIK [ Reply | To 31 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

Yes, what you've heard about seeds is true. Almost 100% of the seed on the market is treated so it will only germinate this year. You can't wait to use it next year, because it will rot in the ground. Also, the seed produced by these hybrids cannot be used for next year's garden. You have to buy more seed from the big boys.

As to wishing that God would judge the despots who are destroying our country....He assuredly will judge them, in His own good time, but in the meantime, we should pray for them, that they would repent and invite Him into their life. He loves them too.

33 Posted on 10/03/1999 07:31:45 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 32 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Despite ones opinion of philosophy, religion, government or the New World Order, I'm interested if anyone can find errors in this?

Other than some of the names of the players in the CFR/TLC list, this article is completely accurate.

It amazes me that some at FR and elsewhere cannot accept the fact that there is a plot by the elite, which includes the annointed GW Bush, to lead us into a New World Order. The evidence is out there for anyone to see.

Thanks for the most informative and timely post Uncle Bill. Keep up the good work!

34 Posted on 10/03/1999 08:45:51 PDT by ActionNewsBill [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Repent my ass, these people are the tools of satan. Are you going to get into the cattle car?

35 Posted on 10/03/1999 08:49:25 PDT by RURIK [ Reply | To 33 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill

Relax, Bill. This man made NWO is going to collapse. It's what comes in it's place we need to be ready for.

36 Posted on 10/03/1999 08:55:36 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 34 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

"Are you going to get into the cattle car?"

I'll have no choice, and neither will you. But then, I'm not afraid to die. My future in the hereafter is decided upon. How about yours? (If you're not a Christian, you don't have to worry about the cattle car!)

37 Posted on 10/03/1999 08:59:53 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 35 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

If you're not a Christian, you don't have to worry about the cattle car!)***

They are after anyone who is religious, moral, believes in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not just Christians.

38 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:16:29 PDT by The Documentary Lady (inabetty@bigfoot.com) [ Reply | To 37 | Top | Last ] To: The Documentary Lady

I think you're going to be amazed at how many people go along with this when they have to. After all, "Who can make war with the Beast?"

39 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:22:22 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 38 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

We will!

40 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:38:29 PDT by RURIK [ Reply | To 39 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Relax, Bill. This man made NWO is going to collapse. It's what comes in it's place we need to be ready for.

Not sure I follow you on this one. What exactly do you mean?

I believe that the NWO is NOT man made, but is and has been the plan of satan all along. He is just using these high level government officials as willing pawns in his game, leading to the ultimate rule of the antichrist.

IMHO, and from reading the scriptures, I believe we will see this happen very soon. I believe the rapture will occur shortly after the antichrist makes his appearance here on earth.

41 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:40:04 PDT by ActionNewsBill [ Reply | To 36 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

"And it was given to him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them; and power was given him over all kindreds, tongues and nations." Revelation 13:7

42 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:48:44 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 40 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill

Man's efforts to create utopia will fail (the Phoenix crashes, Babylon falls, etc.) and THEN comes the Beast. The Beast has the answer to man's failure. The elite we despise will also fall under the spell and rule of the Beast. (He causes all, both small and great, to receive a mark......)

43 Posted on 10/03/1999 09:57:32 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | To 41 | Top | Last ] To: UncleBill

Think I'll go pack a few things for prison. Probably would'nt hurt to buy a gun.

44 Posted on 10/03/1999 10:53:54 PDT by jokar (OurGooseIsCooked) [ Reply | To 43 | Top | Last ] To: logos

Thank you so much for the heads up, logos!!!

45 Posted on 10/03/1999 20:50:33 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | To 12 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

I think you're going to be amazed at how many people go along with this when they have to.***

I believe you're right about that. I've been watching for a long time and what I've noticed is that worldwide, people who are religious are being branded as fundamentalists, fanatics or terrorists with terrorists being reserved for those people who will stand up and fight. It's hard to stay the course when everyone around you thinks you're a lunatic killer including your family and your friends.

46 Posted on 10/04/1999 04:09:03 PDT by The Documentary Lady (inabetty@bigfoot.com) [ Reply | To 39 | Top | Last ] To: The Documentary Lady & babylonian

", we should pray for them, that they would repent and invite Him into their life. He loves them too."

He WOULD love them, if they asked for that. At least, that's how I was taught.

More are realizing the level of control that the lord of the earth has gained. But then, it's all written down :-)

Gettin' to be decision time (Free Will).

47 Posted on 10/05/1999 17:38:40 PDT by NDCORUP (NDCORUP@aol.com) [ Reply | To 46 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Great work Uncle Bill!

48 Posted on 10/05/1999 17:48:42 PDT by rbosque [ Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: rbosque

bttt

49 Posted on 10/05/1999 19:05:17 PDT by tena [ Reply | To 48 | Top | Last ] To: tena

Wolf: Death to the New World Order Long live America!

50 Posted on 10/05/1999 19:31:02 PDT by wolfpsy [ Reply | To 49 | Top | Last ] To: wolfpsy

bttt

51 Posted on 11/05/1999 21:13:45 PST by tena [ Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | Top | Last ] To: tena

Wolf: Long live America! One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all!

Death to the New World Order.

52 Posted on 11/05/1999 21:34:01 PST by wolfpsy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | Top | Last ] To: wolfpsy

Woe be to the oathbreakers and usurpers! Bump!

53 Posted on 11/05/1999 21:45:39 PST by Eastbound [ Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Please forgive them GOD, for they know not what they do.

Thanks Uncle Bill for a succinct, serious synopsis of our planned demise by the dark forces. Power and greed do strange things to our unwanted bedfellows. Pray they see the LIGHT and turn to it NOW for their own sake and ours.

54 Posted on 11/05/1999 22:05:41 PST by luvmysuv [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

The author of this essay is Richard Eastman. I have the essay, which my wife transcribed from a written original, at my site at :

The Shadow Government

FReeregards.

55 Posted on 12/03/1999 16:52:54 PST by Jeff Head (jeffhead@bigplanet.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Jeff Head

The Shadow Government of The United States and The Decline of America

By Richard D. Eastman November 1994

Thanks so much Jeff. Can you tell me anything about Richard Eastman?

56 Posted on 12/03/1999 18:08:18 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

The article was given to me by Mr. Gillespie at Almost HEaven Idaho, near Kamiah, when I visited there in 1995 with an old cowboy friend of mine. That's Bo Gritz planned community and Gillespie handed them to us as we spoke with him at his house.

That's all I know of it, and we kept it until we got on the internet when we transcribed it. Never have met Mr. Eastman, but can feel his spirit in his article and feel him to be a compatriot.

57 Posted on 12/03/1999 18:13:57 PST by Jeff Head (jeffhead@bigplanet.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | Top | Last ] To: NDCORUP

""I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power."

And today, one of the great Melting Pots (ie:Chicago) is moving against the Baptist Church in what they call a potential Hate Crime. Set,Match,Game, Checkmate, this deal is rapidly coming unglued. I haven't a clue to the future, but it looks ugly as hell. After seeing the Seattle gig unfold, if Clinton pulls something in Y2K I'd call off any bets. America will pay, have no doubts, all it takes is a jaunt thru history, and sadly to say, it probably deserves what is coming. I fear for my Children and my Grand Kids. rt

58 Posted on 12/03/1999 18:44:21 PST by rt1 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bumped

Uncle Bill, your posts are worth a bookmark.

59 Posted on 12/03/1999 18:51:38 PST by Claymoremind [ Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | Top | Last ] To: rt1

At 54 I'm just a bit old to be runnin' around in the woods again.

But I will if I have to :-)

60 Posted on 12/03/1999 20:04:13 PST by NDCORUP [ Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | Top | Last ] To: Jeff Head

Jeff, the first time I saw this was here. I felt as though my mind was being read and placed on paper. You will notice who posted that thread. I believe he knows it to be the truth. I know I do. But there are those with vast and mighty knowledge of all things that like to post Reyolds wrap graphics and howl at the moon. I would like very much for the author to come to Free Republic and participate. I am assuming he can put up with the kook graphics and grief, etc.

61 Posted on 12/03/1999 20:44:58 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | Top | Last ] To: The Documentary Lady

Thank you for your comments dear lady. I am a conservative, a Hindu, am American, and I love God and liberty. When they come for me, I have a surprise for them.

62 Posted on 12/03/1999 21:14:44 PST by vedicstar [ Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | Top | Last ] To: vedicstar

When they come for me, I have a surprise for them.***

People are waking up to the fact that an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. They are indeed in for the shock of their lives if they come. Very glad you're on board. We may have started out as a Christian country, but no country on earth has had the sucess of many living together without the horrible bloody curse of culturalism. xlinton would have us think different, but divide and conquor is the oldest tactic in the book and people have to be reminded of it in just those terms. There is no time, any more, for arguing. Rise or fall, we're in it together.

63 Posted on 12/04/1999 14:15:52 PST by The Documentary Lady (inabetty@bigfoot.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

Further research for the truth of Uncle Bill's post can be found at www.informamerica.com, http://www.conservative.org/vieir100.htm Please read text, it will take you several months to get through the info on informamerica, but it is worthwhile. Order two things from them to get started. The truth about the Income Tax (video) Losing your illusions (book). Suffice to say you better protect everything you own through a trust before you file your Affadavit of Revocation from the Social Security Administration. If you need some relevant sites or research tools e-mail me, and I can guide you to some of the best. Of course you can also high tail it to your local law library and search for Supreme Court decisions on this matter, attend an open to the public meeting at the save-a-patriot-fellowship foundation, you can e-mail Gordon from the informamerica site and he will send you days and times. This matter is of the utmost urgency, and for those that are confused, make no mistake, we either stop funding this rush to socialism and one world, or we will wake up pledging fidelity to the peoples republic of the world. Taxula

64 Posted on 01/12/2000 07:40:59 PST by Taxula (keyesforprez@hotmail.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill

I have been researching similar things for about a year, There is nothing inaccurate in that article. Bump to the top It has been a really scary, unreal year for me. I had DSL installed and they found a bug on my telephone wire. The tech could not explain how it got there or why. I don't hold anymore conversations on this subject, and I have stopped writing to the government for information. I am even unsure whether my computer has been bugged and I'm sure it probably has. My husband is a computer tech, and ran some tests on it, proclaimed it to be clean so I trust him and hope it is. Careful who you ask for info. In the struggle to regain our freedom, I'm sure it is going to require huge amounts of personal sacrifice.

65 Posted on 01/12/2000 10:36:45 PST by Taxula (Keyesforprez@hotmail.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Yeah, sounds like the enumeration of citizens by usage of the elective and illegal social security number. Buy sell or trade without one of these. You will find it damn near impossible. You will also lose your job once you unelect yourself from what is hailed as an application, voluntary procedure. When it gets switched to 666 is anybody's guess, but the foundation is already laid, and tracking everything you do is easy to find out. My advice? File an Affidavit of Revocation immediately, become an anonynomous and unenumerated citizen, put everything you own into trust, (offshore) and join the save-a-patriot-fellowship. Get it? No more tax, no more tracking, freedom.

66 Posted on 01/12/2000 10:46:32 PST by Taxula (keyesforprez@hotmail.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | Top | Last ] To: Search4Truth

Quote of the day!

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of liberalism, they will through incrementalism adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened."

Norman Thomas

67 Posted on 01/12/2000 10:58:39 PST by n4sir [ Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Now more than ever, it is time to save your soul. Being a believer in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of Gods children I hope I will be gone before the NWO sweeps in to take control. As the foundation for the NWO has been laid the last 100 years, it was prophesied long before in the Bible. I suggest reading this book, Are We Living In The End Times by Tim Lahaye and Jerry Jenkins. Save your souls and the NWO won't matter to you any longer.

68 Posted on 01/12/2000 11:18:43 PST by one_hit [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] Bump.

69 Posted on 01/27/2000 18:04:56 PST by Le-Roy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

There is this story told of Lincoln... One day a lawyer-colleague of Lincoln's approaches him in his office and asks about the man dusting himself off in picking himself up off the street after obviously having been thrown out of Lincoln's office.

Lincoln tells him that the man tried to bribe him.

His lawyer friend says then, You know, I can understand your being angry, Abe, but why did you see fit to physically having to throw him out? And Lincoln says, the man was coming too close to my price...

70 Posted on 01/27/2000 19:17:58 PST by metalbird1 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Uncle Bill,

Excellent piece of work!!!!

CATO

71 Posted on 01/28/2000 00:26:24 PST by Cato [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Cato

thoughtful bump

72 Posted on 01/28/2000 00:45:44 PST by tanglecreek (tanglecreek@uswestmail.net) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | Top | Last ] To: tanglecreek....ALL.........A very good read!!!!!!!!

BTTT!!!!!

73 Posted on 03/30/2000 20:34:44 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria......You should enjoy this.

BTTT!!!!!!!

74 Posted on 03/30/2000 22:03:56 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill...... a bump for the early morning readers.

BTTT!!!

75 Posted on 03/31/2000 03:09:18 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Taxula.....Insightful post.....The issue is Globalism vs. U.S. Sovereignty!!!

Just FYI you might want to have your husband erase all the cookies except those that you can identify and want to leave intact.

Last fall I woke up about 4am one night and my computer was dialing my ISP server. I didn't let it finish because I didn't want it to have a chance to send anything. I erased all of the cookies and started over.

76 Posted on 03/31/2000 04:41:16 PST by eazdzit (You teach what you tolerate.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill, eazdzit

Anyone? Anyone?

It's all pretty well laid out in this article, now, isn't it? Thank you much, Uncle Bill!

Thanks, eaz, for "paging" me. This is a keeper, to be sure!

77 Posted on 03/31/2000 08:23:38 PST by Mercuria [ Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria

Flag of the New World Order

78 Posted on 03/31/2000 08:27:26 PST by crypt2k [ Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | Top | Last ] To: Ticonderoga, AnnaZ, incindiary, IllumiNOTi, Arator

A Freeper "oldie but goodie" BUMP!

79 Posted on 03/31/2000 08:28:51 PST by Mercuria [ Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria

This should be bumped often and everyday.

80 Posted on 03/31/2000 08:43:15 PST by Maze [ Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria

Thanks, Mercuria!!

For more on those insolent Globalist vermin who would see our Sovereign Republic reduced to a province in the New World Order, see "Bad Links" at":

Bilderberg.Org

81 Posted on 03/31/2000 10:39:05 PST by Ticonderoga [ Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | Top | Last ] To: Ticonderoga.....We should require a Sovereignty Pledge From our candidates..

BTTT!!!!!

See this: Is It Time For A "Sovereignty Oath" By Federal/State Officials and Military?

It wouldn't hurt to require a security clearance.

82 Posted on 03/31/2000 15:25:12 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | Top | Last ] To: Mercuria

Thanks for the flag!

BUMP

83 Posted on 03/31/2000 15:38:25 PST by incindiary [ Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | Top | Last ] To: eazdzit

Swearing to uphold the Constitution should be an automatic "Sovereignty Oath"...I'd also favor banning from public office any candidate who held allegiance to any Globalist Secret Society.

Calling for a "New World Order" or "Global Political Community" would be grounds for lifetime banishment to Uranus...

84 Posted on 03/31/2000 17:00:48 PST by Ticonderoga [ Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | Top | Last ] To: Ticonderoga

You stated.."I'd also favor banning from public office any candidate who held allegiance to any Globalist Secret Society."

I agree, except it should not matter whether or not it was secret. If it is Globalist it should be considered a conflict of interest.

85 Posted on 03/31/2000 17:23:09 PST by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate@It's The stupid Media) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | Top | Last ] To: Maze

b

86 Posted on 04/01/2000 08:46:30 PST by Ticonderoga [ Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill...... a bump for the early morning readers.

Take a look at this idea. Is It Time For A "Sovereignty Oath" By Federal/State Officials and Military? (Wording Follows)

87 Posted on 04/15/2000 07:06:40 PDT by eazdzit (You Teach What You Tolerate & Discourage what you don't.) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Boyd,jedediah smith,bvw,Aristiedes,Askel5,shield,Anochka,Donald Stone.W.Al B,Alamo-girl

bmp

88 Posted on 05/14/2000 12:32:39 PDT by Joe Montana [ Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | Top | Last ] To: Joe Montana

volley bmp!

89 Posted on 05/14/2000 13:43:43 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

"If we take those corporations that the Rockefeller family has 10% control, or 5%, and at least two members of their board of directors,

we have the following:

Exxon, Mobil Oil, Standard of California, Standard of Indiana, International Harvester, Inland Steel, Marathon Oil, Quaker Oats, Wheeling-Pittsburgh Steel, Freeport Sulphur, and International Basic Economy Corporation."

90 Posted on 05/14/2000 15:20:51 PDT by Joe Montana [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Joe Montana

yep

91 Posted on 05/14/2000 19:40:25 PDT by Boyd [ Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Your post is like the handwriting on the wall. And Babylon will fall.

92 Posted on 05/14/2000 19:48:50 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Excellant post. About all I can think to do about this is pray.

93 Posted on 05/14/2000 20:35:20 PDT by grayfox (bbovaird@earthlink.net) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump

94 Posted on 05/15/2000 11:47:36 PDT by wooly_mammoth [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bttt

95 Posted on 05/17/2000 07:50:34 PDT by Stand Watch Listen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thanks. I'll print this one for my friends that think I have lost my mind. It's comprehensive and hard to dispute. I did the same with an Echelon piece last year -

This is exactly why I would consider a vote for Buchanan. He is the only one who will allude to these problems that had the slightest hope of getting into the debates, at least.

96 Posted on 05/17/2000 08:40:17 PDT by Horticultcha [ Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | Top | Last ] To: Horticultcha

I'll print this one for my friends that think I have lost my mind.

You and I are FREAKS down here ... face it! =)

97 Posted on 05/17/2000 08:41:36 PDT by Askel5 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | Top | Last ] To: Askel5

Perhaps we are meant to be the scribe-babes!!!

98 Posted on 05/17/2000 09:29:16 PDT by Horticultcha [ Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | Top | Last ] To: Horticultcha

Bttt

99 Posted on 05/24/2000 00:03:44 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 98 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump for them that don't believe in them

100 Posted on 05/24/2000 09:18:06 PDT by Horticultcha [ Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | Top | Last ] To: Horticultcha, Uncle Bill

bttt

101 Posted on 06/03/2000 03:04:23 PDT by Stand Watch Listen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 100 | Top | Last ] To: Rowdee

In 1912, Woodrow Wilson became President. His chief advisor and administrator was Col. Edward Mandell House, who was a proponent of world government, a representative of the European banking dynasties, and had close ties with the Morgan interests.

In 1912, House wrote a book, wherein he laid out a plan to bring America into a world government. ("Philip Dru: Administrator", by Col. Edward Mandell House, 1912; available at General Birch Services, P.O. Box 8040 Appleton, Wis. 549138040). On page 222, he wrote:

"...our Constitution and our laws...are not only obsolete, but even grotesque."

His plan, and, to use his own words, "a conspiracy," would seek to achieve:

1. The establishment of a central bank; 2. A progressive graduated income tax; and 3. Control of both political parties in the U.S.

What was House's goal? "Socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx". House, who called himself the "unseen guardian angel" of the Federal Reserve Act, in concert with the Wall Street and European bankers, convinced President Wilson of the central bank concept.

The Federal Reserve Act was passed on Dec. 23, 1913 (by a vote of 298 to 60 in the House of Representatives, and 43 to 25 in the Senate).

And we're extremists??? Given the two choices available, I'll gladly stick with the fringe. How 'bout you? (grin)

102 Posted on 07/19/2000 23:55:12 PDT by Benighted [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I'm still looking for that photo of Nicolea Ceausescu, FORMER HEAD BUREAUCRAT/TYRANT of Rumania, lying in a puddle of his OWN blood outside his guilded castle, shortly after his trial (final job performance review) by his fellow countrymen.

His equally evil wife was tried and executed that day, but the lives of his grown son and daughter were spared by the citizens of Rumania. A testiment to the restraint and compassion of the Rumanian people.

103 Posted on 07/29/2000 15:20:08 PDT by CIBvet (AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY FOREVER -- DEATH FOR TRAITORS) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: eazdzit

Those were not cookies, but a self executable spyware file you downloaded without knowledge. Unless you identified the source of the incident, the "spyware" is still on your hard drive--still spying on you.

104 Posted on 07/29/2000 16:31:12 PDT by kloss [ Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | Top | Last ] To: CIBvet

Yes, these pictures are not easy to find. Know why? It's every bureaucrats/politician nightmare. Let's not give the subjects any ideas.

From Here:

105 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:07:15 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump

106 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:12:49 PDT by wooly_mammoth [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

late double volley bump :)

107 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:14:29 PDT by wooly_mammoth [ Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | Top | Last ] To: Michael Rivero

Commenting on debt, Benjamin Franklin warned:

"The burden of debt is as destructive to freedom as subjugation by conquest."

You see Michael, many folks here are smarter than Ben, just ask them. Debt will destroy a nation just like being defeated in conquest. That's how it will happen.

108 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:34:56 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 107 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Yes, these pictures are not easy to find. Know why? It's every bureaucrats/politician nightmare. Let's not give the subjects any ideas.

Yes, otherwise the grand illusion power emanates from the top of the pyramid is shattered; when, in fact, it is ceded by those at the base.

109 Posted on 07/29/2000 18:53:43 PDT by metalbird1 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Makes a person wonder how a crooked bureaucRAT would feel to suddenly receive a copy out of the blue. Wouldn't have to say much else.

110 Posted on 07/29/2000 19:20:15 PDT by CIBvet (AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY -- Of,By &For THE PEOPLE .... NOT some Corporate-Government Empire/Cabal) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | Top | Last ] To: wooly_mammoth and Uncle Bill

Thank you so much for the heads up!!! I've been going over the article in more detail, and felt I needed to give y'all a heads up, too:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine, and other publications whose directors have attended our meetings, and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years...It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years."

I have on several occasions used my various search engines to look for a mainstream source for the above quote which also appears in this article.

I have never been able to find it on any journalistic site like the Washington Times, WorldNetDaily, etc. The only places I have seen it are on sites which are discussing the N.W.O., Bilderbergers, Illuminati, etc. Over the years, I’ve seen it attributed to two different locations and two different dates, and once it was mentioned that it had been published in the French Press but with no specific information that could be used to authenticate it. Most current uses of this quote say it was by David Rockefeller in June of 1991, in Germany at Baden-Baden at a Bilderberg meeting.

It appears in the above article which was repeated in numerous locations on the web, and is also quoted on a number of other websites but I've never found it attributed to a verifiable or reliable journalistic source.

I am very concerned about the authenticity of the quote. And since the Bilderbergs and their meetings are allegedly secretive, it baits the question of how the transcript would have gotten out. So if you have a solid source for this or a lead on the French Press article I’d sure appreciate knowing about it. If it can be confirmed, it is absolutely stunning!

We’ve seen the false Reno “cultist” definition spread around the internet on a regular basis. The same holds true of the false Gore John 16:3 incident. Each time someone relies on these false statements, it ends up discrediting the rest of their work. It makes me wonder if someone “plants” these things?! Anyway, without a solid source, I’d caution against using the quote or would strongly recommend including a statement that it has not yet been authenticated.

111 Posted on 07/29/2000 22:07:45 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 107 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

Feet of Clay

Mysteries of the Shadow Government

112 Posted on 07/30/2000 00:47:58 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thank you so much for the link!!! IMHO, the disclaimer sentences Geoff Metcalf uses in his article are a good way to handle the quote whenever it is used. Then if it is proven false or ridiculed, the rest of the article stands on its own merit:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_metcalf/20000214_xcgme_feet_clay.shtml WorldNetDaily Feet of Clay 2/14/00 Geoff Metcalf “…There are two significant quotes, allegedly taken from Bilderberg meetings, which I have referenced in the past. The chilling Kissinger quote I have posted to my web page I have heard on tape. The David Rockefeller comments from the June 1991 Bilderberg meeting in Baden Baden, Germany, I have only third hand. People can and will challenge the accuracy of the quote, but the substance of it seems more than probable. ……”

It must be the "mother hen" in me because of all that this forum has been through ---- I do tend to be particularly cautious whenever the Washington Post is part of the equation.

113 Posted on 07/30/2000 08:07:45 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 112 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

I guess we'll have to call Vernon Jordan to verify. Do you think Monica could ask him for us?

From Here: David Rockefeller speaking at the Bilderberger meeting in June 1991 in Baden Baden, Germany. This meeting was also attended by Dan Quayle and Bill Clinton, who was introduced to these international traitors by none other than Vernon Jordan. If you or I attended meetings, held in total secrecy, surrounded by guards armed with UZI's and other assorted assault weapons and planned the downfall of America, we would be tried for sedition. These globalists, i.e. Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, have sold out America for their own lust of power. Reality check for them: America will NOT fall to her knees for these petty henchmen of the world order.

114 Posted on 07/30/2000 09:59:37 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I detect some chagrin in your reply, Uncle Bill! Truly, I'm not trying to be difficult here ... I mainly hope to inoculate the forum from any new problems with the Washington Post.

The lead from the other thread is encouraging because I imagine the attorney would have checked his sources before publishing the quote. Hopefully he will share that information with us!

115 Posted on 07/30/2000 12:22:18 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | Top | Last ] To: Benighted

btt

116 Posted on 07/30/2000 12:40:04 PDT by flanew [ Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Excellent post! There seem to be some sudden believers on this thread!

117 Posted on 07/30/2000 12:47:06 PDT by babylonian [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

No no AG, not at all. I appreciate your efforts for accuracy. I was just having this picture in my mind (I always do when Vernon's name is mentioned) where Monica is sitting in the car with Vernon and they are talking about the devil's little problem, and Monica says, "I don't want to end up like Caity Mahoney," or something like that. Keep on trucking! 8-)

118 Posted on 07/30/2000 12:58:35 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

I think post #7, in those circumstances by bondhue1 tells us a great deal:

"Supported by the committee's senior Democrat (Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut), he launched his own investigation and began taking depositions this week. Thompson is inured to failure after five years of Justice Department run-arounds, but this time he plans full investigative techniques -- perhaps even fingerprints. All for some missing notes on a virtually forgotten scandal? Thompson is really aiming at what he calls the "shadow government" that controls both Justice and its nominal chief, Attorney General Janet Reno."

Why did he say that? For what purpose? He didn't have to. He could have used many other terms. No, he stated "shadow government". Regards.

119 Posted on 07/30/2000 13:07:16 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thank you so very much for the clarification! Whew! I feel lots better now...

That's an excellent point about Senator Thompson!!! Politicians - and especially attorney-politicians, choose their words very carefully. We can be sure he had something specific in mind - just like when he opened the hearings claiming that the Chinese were trying to influence the elections!!!

120 Posted on 07/30/2000 14:17:21 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 119 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

The Search for Wisdom And Freedom

121 Posted on 08/17/2000 02:15:28 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thanks for the link!

122 Posted on 08/17/2000 06:14:00 PDT by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

"1) The 16th Amendment was never properly ratified. This has been proven in court. "

I was unaware ratification had been adressed in court (other than the usual refusal to perform due diligence by the judges). Can you elaborate?

123 Posted on 10/02/2000 18:19:18 PDT by Michael Rivero [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: bondhue1

Bttt

124 Posted on 11/14/2000 03:24:26 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump

125 Posted on 11/14/2000 03:27:38 PST by SauronOfMordor [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Uncle Bill told us so.

What do you think about the current state of affairs. Do you think Clinton is holding out for the pardon?;)

126 Posted on 11/14/2000 03:31:46 PST by rubbertramp [ Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | Top | Last ] To: rubbertramp, Babylonian, Uncle Bill

"Excellent post! There seem to be some sudden believers on this thread!" from July.

Bet there's More Now!

127 Posted on 11/14/2000 03:54:02 PST by rdavis84 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill, Bondhue1

These won't come up for me this morning. Is it just me? :-)

The Bush Team's mistake, and How it Might be Corrected

LR Company Sold Software that Created Florida Ballots

** CANVASING COMMISSION CAN REJECT RECOUNT - HERE'S THE LAW !!!

128 Posted on 11/14/2000 04:10:09 PST by rdavis84 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 127 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I have read the book you mention, also Checque Mate by Jeffrey Baker and Circle of Deceit by Texe Marrs. My problem with all this is that there is nothing new at all being published about the machinations of the Bilderbergers, CFR, Trilateralists, Club of Rome, etc...Everything you read ends up like a history lesson. There is nothing current. Even the list of Clinton cabinet members you posted is seven years old.

I remember one time Clinton was supposed to be on "vacation", right when the Bilderbergers were meeting in France. Not a word or picture from Slick for several days.

129 Posted on 11/14/2000 04:28:07 PST by Luke21 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill rdavis84

Uncle Bill, I'll bump ya' back on this oldie but goodie!

rdavis84, thanks for the heads up!

130 Posted on 11/14/2000 10:56:16 PST by babylonian [ Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | Top | Last ] To: sasquatch

Plonk.

131 Posted on 11/14/2000 12:00:27 PST by Carry_Okie [ Reply | Private Reply | To 130 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bttt

132 Posted on 11/15/2000 11:02:10 PST by Stand Watch Listen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bttt

133 Posted on 11/15/2000 11:02:11 PST by Stand Watch Listen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Stand Watch Listen

BTTT

134 Posted on 11/18/2000 19:14:18 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill, phikapmam, tlbshow, freethesheeples, travis mcgee, manny festo

What a chilling read.....

135 Posted on 12/08/2000 20:47:04 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan (Bircher bump!) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

The Decline and Fall of the American Empire

136 Posted on 12/09/2000 00:15:26 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

"Good" morning!

137 Posted on 12/09/2000 09:36:00 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | Top | Last ] To: owen kellog, mudboy slim

bttt

138 Posted on 12/09/2000 18:57:00 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I have long felt that Clinton saw himself as leaving the Oval Office to one day become King of the World. After reading this it seems to make much more sense. I heard Cal Thomas say on the Fox News Network today that "if Clinton is indited after he leaves office Bush will pardon him". After reading this post that also makes sense. Keep praying.

139 Posted on 12/09/2000 20:44:19 PST by The Real Deal [ Reply | Private Reply | To 137 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Just wanted to lay this out there for the enjoyment of others. I ran across this little nugget early this morning...

To: metalbird1

It appears we are checkmated. With the pawns, a puzzled look, facing the king. The tentacles touch, they squeeze. It is complete. This next year will be the most astonishing year in our history. [bold added]

5 Posted on 07/09/1999 03:45:12 PDT by Uncle Bill [ Reply | To 4 | Top | Last ]

Hey...I think Uncle Bill is at least as good as Nostradamus...;^)

Here is a direct link to this post...

Interesting insight

140 Posted on 12/09/2000 21:03:12 PST by Le-Roy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan , Uncle Bill

Right on The Mark

141 Posted on 12/10/2000 04:08:40 PST by Manny Festo [ Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

Thanks Callahan!!! It sounds alot like the speach I heard on cspan a coupla years ago by Mcmannis.It seems if one wants to excell in politics one must be a member.Good stock advice in it as well(hehehe).I reckon all that is needed now is a stock market crash,which seems to be on its way,and they will be able to impament the last of the new constitution.I coppied it,lots of churches around here. I will try to get the info into the hands of some pastors, or whatever you call them.I am a man of faith,I just havent found a church I trust yet.A rep from the JBS. informed me long ago,my life hasent been the same since,I dont know if its better or worse with your eyes open.Kinda like the movie "THE MATRIX" where the traitor wanted to go back into the matrix and just have a good life.He didnt care that it wasnt real.That seems to be the attitude of many folks today.We have become a nation of lazy people,nobody is willing to fight.

142 Posted on 12/10/2000 08:55:44 PST by DAGO [ Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | Top | Last ] To: DAGO

....I just havent found a church I trust yet.

Shepherd's Chapel

143 Posted on 12/10/2000 09:04:28 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 142 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

This is the last paragraph of a letter to the editor in the new (Dec 18th) issue of the New American:

In his farewell address to the nation in 1837 President Andrew Jackson gave one of the clearest expositions of the federalist principle: "It is well known that there have always been those amongst us who wish to enlarge the powers of the General Government.... Its legitimate authority is abundantly sufficient for all the purposes for which it was created, and its powers being expressly enumerated, there can be no justification for claiming anything beyond them.

Every attempt to excercise power beyond those limits should be promply and firmly opposed, for one evil example will lead to other measures still more mischievous; and if the principle of constructive powers or supposed advantages or temporary circumstances shall ever be permitted to justify the assumption of a power not given by the Constitution, the General government will before long absorb all the powers of legislation, and you will have in effect but one Consolodated government....

....and every friend of our free institutions should always be prepared to maintain unimpared and in full vigor the rights of sovreignty of the States and to confine the action of the General Government strictly to the sphere of its appropriate duties".

FYI

144 Posted on 12/10/2000 11:19:34 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thanks for this incredibly terrific post. It is good to see the old gang from FR still sitting on the sidelines and working hard as usual.

145 Posted on 12/10/2000 11:37:54 PST by vetwife [ Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thanks. I have learned much from your posts.

146 Posted on 12/10/2000 12:28:01 PST by janetgreen [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

Excellent quote!

Restore the republic! the real work is only beginning...........Covenantor

147 Posted on 12/10/2000 12:42:07 PST by Covenantor [ Reply | Private Reply | To 144 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

A couple of years ago, I was on the road for many weeks, working on a very hard job, away from my loving wife and children. I was in a fine downtown hotel, and it was 5AM in the morning, and I was getting up to go on a sales call, and I flicked on the tv and Shepherds' Chapel came on.

I watched, and learned. It filled me up with warmth and happiness, and I didn't feel so alone anymore.

But on another point: This thread is TOOOO Long. Can you do a "continuation" and then we can delve deeper down? Thanks.

148 Posted on 12/10/2000 13:19:14 PST by Aggressive Calvinist [ Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bump for later read.

149 Posted on 12/10/2000 13:20:56 PST by jslade [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

This needs to be repeated as referenced and sourced in the WND article in numerous places (for posterity, in light of Rockefellers comments)---

"His BBC statements mirrored his remarks to the World Federalist Association in October of 1999, when he said, "Americans will have to yield up some of our sovereignty. That would be a bitter pill." He then went on to underscore the heresy by saying, "Time will not wait. Democracy, civilization itself, is at stake. Within the next few years we must change the basic structure of our global community from the present anarchic system of war to a new system governed by a democratic U.N. federation." ----------Walter Cronkite

150 Posted on 12/10/2000 14:04:39 PST by rdavis84 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 119 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

My dad interviewed Norman thomas, head of the American Socialist Party, in 1939.

At that time, Thomas told my father that FDR had already introduced his entire Socialist Party platform into being in the US Government.

The Depression of the 30s was the excuse for a socialist coup by the Roosevelt Administration, per the Head of the Socialist Party, USA.

151 Posted on 12/10/2000 15:20:12 PST by FReethesheeples [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: FReethesheeples

bump, I am going to keep bumping this article until I get callouses. Uncle Bill sure did a GREAT JOB !

152 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:15:04 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 151 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

BTTT

153 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:21:19 PST by JusticeLives [ Reply | Private Reply | To 144 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thank you for this. It is very scary to learn things about what is REALLY going on, but at the same time I want to know as much as I can.

154 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:27:24 PST by Katarinabear (katarinateddy@yahoo.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill

I believe the rapture will occur shortly after the antichrist makes his appearance here on earth.

And I believe that Rev. 10:7 points us to the timing of the rapture.

Of course I hope I'm wrong and you are right. A pre-tribulation rapture is so much more palatable.

155 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:43:43 PST by Osama [ Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Again Sir, my most humble gratitude. An amazing compilation readily available for those who wish to become informed!

156 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:51:38 PST by philman_36 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: B4Ranch

Thanks, if not for your bump, I may has missed this.

157 Posted on 12/10/2000 22:52:43 PST by sgw587 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | Top | Last ] To: FReethesheeples

FDR had already introduced his entire Socialist Party platform into being in the US Government

The Socialist Party Platform of 1932 Programs Adopted by the Roosevelt Administration A federal appropriation of $5,000,000,000 for immediate relief for those in need to supplement state and local appropriations. Federal Emergency Relief Act (FERA), May 12, 1933 A federal appropriation of $5,000,000,000 for public works and roads, reforestation, slum clearance, and decent homes for the workers by the federal government, states, and cities. Public Works Administration (PWA), established by the National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA), May 17, 1933 Civilian Conservation Corps (Reforestation) Act (CCC), March 31, 1933 Home Owners Loan Corp. (HOLC), established by the Home Owners Refinancing Act, April 13, 1933 Other agencies Legislation providing for the acquisition of land, buildings, and equipment necessary to put the unemployed to work producing food, fuel, and clothing, and for the erection of housing for their own use. Various experimental communities were established toward these ends. The six-hour day and the five-day work-week without a reduction in wages. The Black bill for the establishment of a thirty-hour week was not passed by Congress. A comprehensive and efficient system of free public employment agencies. Each state now maintains such offices throughout its jurisdiction. A compulsory system of unemployment compensation with adequate benefits, based upon contributions by the government and by employers. Provided by the Social Security Act, 1936, with additional contributions by employees. Old age pensions for men and women sixty years of age and over. Provided by the Social Security Act, 1936, for those sixty-five years of age and over. Health and maternity insurance. Provided by the Social Security Act, 1936. Improved systems of workmen's compensation and accident insurance. Senate bill 2793, introduced May 9, 1935, by Senator Wagner, culminated in passage by Congress of the Wagner Act, a comprehensive labor-management act. The abolition of child labor. Statutory education requirements and minimum work age laws. Government aid to farmers and small homeowners to protect them against mortgage foreclosure and a moratorium on sales for nonpayment of taxes by destitute farmers and unemployed workers. Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA), March 16, 1933 Farm Credit Administration (FCA), March 27, 1933 Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA), 1938 Federal Housing Administration (FHA) HOLC Adequate minimum wage laws Established by the National Recovery Administration (NRA), created by NIRA, May 17, 1933. In 1935, the NRA was found to be unconstitutional by the untied States Supreme Court. Nonetheless, minimum wage limits still exist. Source

158 Posted on 12/10/2000 23:06:40 PST by Sandy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 151 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

A most excellent "little book"!

159 Posted on 12/10/2000 23:29:52 PST by philman_36 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | Top | Last ] To: Search4Truth

bump

160 Posted on 12/11/2000 06:34:43 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Get the US out of the UN. (bump)

161 Posted on 12/11/2000 06:42:17 PST by blam [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: B4Ranch

bump, I am going to keep bumping this article until I get callouses. Uncle Bill sure did a GREAT JOB !

AMEN and THANK YOU!

162 Posted on 12/11/2000 07:45:46 PST by marianna [ Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | Top | Last ] To: Osama

>A pre-tribulation rapture is so much more palatable.<

More wishful thinking -- palatable but not Biblical.

163 Posted on 12/11/2000 07:49:47 PST by marianna [ Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | Top | Last ] To: The Real Deal, Vetwife

MORTON'S PREDICTION and actual request of Klinton to become KING of America.Scroll down to "OCTOBER, 2000: THE WALL ".

164 Posted on 12/11/2000 08:08:51 PST by It'salmosttolate [ Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Thank you for this post.

I saw a freeper interviewed on C-span this morning. The jounalist asked What is Freerepublic.com? His answer was eloquent I'm paraphrasing but he said it was a conservative forum where articles from around the country and the web were posted and critiqued, exposing where a reporter got his facts wrong or media bias was observed.

This will likely lead to more interest here at freerepublic. God Bless all my fellow freepers. Eagles Up!

165 Posted on 12/11/2000 08:26:38 PST by arepublicifyoucankeepit [ Reply | Private Reply | To 163 | Top | Last ] To: Sandy

Thanks for the confirmation, Sandy, re: the comparison of the Socialist Party & the FDR, Dem. Party agenda & achievements..

166 Posted on 12/11/2000 08:55:25 PST by FReethesheeples [ Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | Top | Last ] To: Osama

Right on! In the event of Rapture - you can have this PC!

Great to have located some kindred souls on FReep. The CFR and company can hatch thier little plans - but God has THE plan. Amen.

167 Posted on 12/11/2000 09:04:56 PST by Psalm 73 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | Top | Last ] To: arepublicifyoucankeepit

Eagles Up !

bump

168 Posted on 12/11/2000 09:42:46 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | Top | Last ] To: Psalm 73

another bump

169 Posted on 12/11/2000 19:50:06 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 167 | Top | Last ] To: Alamo-Girl

Here's another site you may want to visit, but be prepared to stay awhile! A vast compilation.

http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/

DE OPPRESSO LIBER

170 Posted on 12/11/2000 22:40:04 PST by compuguru [ Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bill, every bit of this is true, but watch it, you are gonna get flamed hard for this. Personally I think it deserves a big BUMP

171 Posted on 12/11/2000 22:45:48 PST by DaiHuy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: DaiHuy

My feeling exactly !

172 Posted on 12/12/2000 07:32:09 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 171 | Top | Last ] To: compuguru

I certainly was amazed at the quantity of information at your site. bump

173 Posted on 12/12/2000 17:39:48 PST by B4Ranch [ Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | Top | Last ] To: compuguru

Thank you so much for the url!!! I'll go and check it out!

174 Posted on 12/13/2000 21:59:27 PST by Alamo-Girl [ Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

What can we do?

1) Invite the Lord into your life.

I'm glad this one came with instructions.

With this understanding, I will pray for a candidate for office that follows the instructions.

175 Posted on 12/17/2000 16:18:21 PST by Keyesertarian [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Situations certainly appears to be overwhelmingly in the favor of the New World Order. You alluded to another Force in Europe that also wants to have a NWO.

Well now we have China saying they want to be 'head' of the NWO.

One way or another there is a dictator who is planning our slavery right now. He is also planning to kill his competitors. So, I guess the slaves get to live.

Seriously, there have never been times like these. It is astounding to me how consumed with evil one must be to put Socialism in place world wide, as long as your family owns everything.

176 Posted on 12/28/2000 21:51:55 PST by Slingshot [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Keyesertarian

You sure can pick the Goodnight Stories, Keyesertarian.

I don't think I want to go to bed just yet ...

177 Posted on 01/10/2001 20:57:49 PST by Askel5 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 175 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bump for reading later!

178 Posted on 01/22/2001 13:08:16 PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I bookmarked this a long time ago, and finally got around to reading it. It didn't make any sense to me until my daughter walked by and took my tin-foil hat away. Now it is entirely logical.LOL

Seriously, any thought on how these events fit into the fact of Britain selling its stores of precious metals for the last few years, and the now swift formation of a true Euro dynasty?

179 Posted on 02/03/2001 16:43:23 PST by jeremiah [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Anochka, Askel5, Michael Rivero

SECRETS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE On September 30, 1941, before the same Committee, Governor Eccles was asked by Representative Patman: "How did you get the money to buy those two billion dollars worth of Government securities in 1933?

ECCLES: We created it.

MR. PATMAN: Out of what?

ECCLES: Out of the right to issue credit money.

MR. PATMAN: And there is nothing behind it, is there, except our Government’s credit?

ECCLES: That is what our money system is. If there were no debts in our money system, there wouldn’t be any money."

On June 17, 1942, Governor Eccles was interrogated by Mr. Dewey.

ECCLES: "I mean the Federal Reserve, when it carries out an open market operation, that is, if it purchases Government securities in the 167 open market, it puts new money into the hands of the banks which creates idle deposits.

DEWEY: There are no excess reserves to use for this purpose?

ECCLES: Whenever the Federal Reserve System buys Government securities in the open market, or buys them direct from the Treasury, either one, that is what it does.

DEWEY: What are you going to use to buy them with? You are going to create credit?

ECCLES: That is all we have ever done. That is the way the Federal Reserve System operates.

The Federal Reserve System creates money. It is a bank of issue."

At the House Hearing of 1947, Mr. Kolburn asked Mr. Eccles:

"What do you mean by monetization of the public debt?

ECCLES: I mean the bank creating money by the purchase of Government securities. All is created by debt--either private or public debt.

FLETCHER: Chairman Eccles, when do you think there is a possibility of returning to a free and open market, instead of this pegged and artificially controlled financial market we now have?

ECCLES: Never. Not in your lifetime or mine."

180 Posted on 03/23/2001 00:55:22 PST by Uncle Bill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 177 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill ... bttt

181 Posted on 03/25/2001 23:58:11 PST by Askel5 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 180 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

I agree with your post. You have done very well. I found one minor technical error. The Public Law 87-297 you mentioned is no longer on the books. It was repealed by Pub. L. 105-277, div. G, subdiv. A, title XII, Sec. 1222, Oct. 21, 1998, 112 Stat. 2681-768 (according to FindLaw).

182 Posted on 03/27/2001 08:51:32 PST by tuscanycircle (wayne@tuscanycircle.net) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

BTTT

183 Posted on 04/23/2001 04:16:15 PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

bookmark-reviewing bump

184 Posted on 05/02/2001 07:44:48 PDT by patricktschetter [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Inspector Harry Callahan

Timely bump.

185 Posted on 05/06/2001 09:53:20 PDT by rdavis84 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 183 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Never overlook the fact that plain old bungling can cause a people to arrive at zero. Bungling can be so bad it can appear to be malice. In general a great people starts out with great leaders and ends up with Bill Clinton types. Our people are unable to excrete; whether criminals or aliens etc. et al.

186 Posted on 05/06/2001 10:02:58 PDT by HENRYADAMS [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

All of this seems to place the "blame" on federal control of wealth, and not on the problems caused by the obscenely wealthy--the historical reality is not that federal institutions regulate wealth, but that wealth profoundly influences federal law. The problems of 19th and 20th century American politics and economy were in large part generated by the manipulations of the wealthy--their influence on governement. Does anyone think that by lessening gov't regs on, say, monopolies, we're going to nbe somehow freer? If so, I've got some nice bottom land to sell you.

187 Posted on 05/16/2001 07:17:53 PDT by TonyKu (akubiak1@tampabay.rr.com) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

WHAT CAN THE PEOPLE AS A UNIT DO TO EXPOSE THE THE TRIATERAL COMMISION TO THE WORLD????? HOW CAN WE AUDIT THE FDR? CAN REPARATIONS FOR SLAVERY (MONETARY) CREATE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT WITHIN AMERICA? CAN AN INDEPENDANT PARTY THEN BE FORMED AGINST REPULIC/DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHAT ATE THE RISKS? CAN ANOTHER SECRET SOCIETY BE FORMED AGAINST THE COMMISION? HOW CAN WE SNAP THE WORLD OUT OF TOTAL IGNORANCE? WHAT ORGANIZATION CAN WE SEEK ALLIANCE FROM?

188 Posted on 10/02/2001 23:37:18 PDT by armegeddon [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: RURIK

I cry from what you have written, because I have feel these things to be true.

Calm friend. The end is already written.

Good wins.

189 Posted on 10/28/2001 21:57:57 PST by DAnconia55 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

Sadly, all the sleepwalkers who need to read this post, wont. Half of them are at the game, the other half are at the mall.

We should be allowed the peace to be at the game or the mall... but Evil exists.

Our people have become simpletons. Without digressing too far, Television is man's most evil invention.

190 Posted on 10/28/2001 22:02:29 PST by DAnconia55 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | Top | Last ] To: babylonian

I'll have no choice, and neither will you. But then, I'm not afraid to die. My future in the hereafter is decided upon. How about yours? (If you're not a Christian, you don't have to worry about the cattle car!)

I've scrolled through all of the posts above, reading some and skimming others, but of all the posts above, this one had the most impact. This is the one that fed the fires of my vengeance the most.

Since pretty much day one I've heard this stuff, and for the life of me I cannot understand why it is that so many would knowingly sit on their hands, doing little or nothing, and all the while saying "it just had to be." That's the thing that gets me the most. To me that is one of the most selfish attitudes one could ever adopt, that the beast just had to be.

** NEWSFLASH ** IT DIDN'T!!

No, rather it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. So many just sat and watched, over and over telling themselves how powerless they were. Well guess what? Now it really is true. Now the government has power that is unimaginable. Why? Because persons such as yourself sat there and watched it happen, for years and years and years.

Tell me something. Are you living in the woods somewhere and without an address? Why not? You and your kind (Christians) should be swarming over this country, living completely separate. You should have several states all to yourselves. But that is not the case is it? No, instead it is very much the opposite. Who built the beast, this infernal menace the Christians have been railing against but haven't been doing squat to stop? Christians, that's who. Find me Congressmen, Presidents, heads of whatever convoluted branch of government it is, and then you show me that they are Satanists. Go ahead and find them. You won't find them. Why? Because no one would ever ever (said twice on purpose) claim themselves to be a Satanist AND also expect to carry any clout whatsoever in government. Now isn't that odd? What is it that is said at the end of all the speeches? Is it not "and God bless the United States of America"? So you tell me who's been calling the shots and who hasn't. It sure wasn't the Satanists, the folks who were supposed to be bringing this beast upon Mankind.

Come to think of it, how many Satanic churches do you pass in your travels? I don't know about you or your circles, but as for me and my circles, I see none, not a single Satanic church. Odd isn't it? But yet, in any given town there are at least three Christian churches. You folks have so many churches it isn't funny. But do these churches rail against a runaway government? What, and lose their tax-free status? (In other words, they're playing along with the IRS, not fighting it. Yeah, those tithes are tax deductable. ...Hint: You folks should've told the IRS to get out of your church!! Also, if you'd have done that you might have happened to see me actually walking through your door, because then I'd be interested.)

So you keep these things in mind when both you AND I are on our way to the cattle cars, ok? You'll be going praising your faith all the way. I'll be going right along side but cursing you and the rest of you cowards with every step I take. This stuff didn't have to happen. But you folks and your high and mighty "we're right 'cause we're saved" attitudes, your minds set on Heaven and your rewards and your mansions and your golden streets, you folks went right along every step of the way when you should've been fighting. The idea of actually fighting back against what you saw, well, that just wouldn't do. I mean what? Are you going to go live in a cardboard box because you refused to bow to the king? No, instead you just pointed your fingers (speaking to you Christians as a whole) saying we (all the infidels such as myself) are all doomed, but then you went right back and continued building the very beast you claim to abhor. Who can and will make war with the beast? Certainly not the Christians. After all, if they'd have actually fought back, who would they have to point at to say "be saved! Judgement day comes!" No, they needed an enemy. But actually hunt and fight the enemy? Forget it.

I curse you all. It'd be one thing if I saw all you people who call yourselves Christians united in your churches openly and defiantly showing yourselves as opposed to the beast rather than working for the beast everyday. That would've (I admit) had an effect on my attitude, and I likely would not be so angry. If I saw all of you united towards protecting America from this thing that you've been claiming to despise for so many years, then that'd be a different story altogether. But that is NOT what I've seen. No, what I've seen are the very people who should've been at war with the beast at war with everything but. You plaster your morals all over everything. You put your good "God fearing" men into office, rallying around the Republican party (most church-going Christians are Republicans) at every election. You fight tooth and nail against everything (abortion??? the government should've never had any such OPPORTUNITY to even contemplate any such legislation!!) but what really matters, the very thing that you are now throwing up your hands about. You people make me sick. I look around me and I see many things I despise, but you know what? I can't do squat about it. Why? Because the Christians dropped the ball way back when.

If all the Christians would've just fought back as opposed to preaching trying to save my soul. Look at those claiming to be Christians out there, and you will see that for the most part they all claim to be freedom lovers and they claim to be all about defending America. I look at them and laugh, but then I get angry. They've been licking the beast's boots for years. Yeah, I may be going to Hell (I am not a Christian), but the thought of spending eternity with folks the likes of you just isn't an option. I couldn't care less about gold streets and rewards and all the other stuff, but I do give a damn about freedom, that thing that you folks allowed to be stolen while you waited to be rescued from the evils of world, the evils that you could've done something about but didn't.

You think about this the next time you drop one of those rotten Federal Reserve Notes into that offering plate. You think about it long and hard. Did you fight? No. Instead you just played right along, blasting the beast and waving Revelations 13 around on Sunday but then patting that very same beast on the back the rest of the week. I curse you all. ...streets of GOLD Pff! ...too bad America doesn't have any any more. But it sure does have a lot of bank paper, bank paper that fills those offering plates all across America every Sunday, bank paper that builds yet another church every time one turns around, bank paper that Christians should've burned the minute it crossed the threshold of their churches on day one.

Ok, I'm done now.

191 Posted on 10/28/2001 23:53:48 PST by alien2 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Ok, I'm done now.

Actually I'm not quite. Tell me something all you Christians. Do the words "Jesus," "whip," "temple," and "money changers" ring any bells? If you ask me, you Christians would just crucify Jesus all over again, you bunch of tax-exempt IRS worshippers. Tithe, it's tax free!

I curse you all.

192 Posted on 10/29/2001 00:03:52 PST by alien2 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 191 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

It reads like a threat ?

193 Posted on 10/29/2001 00:08:48 PST by WileyCoyote22 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Ok, I'm done now.

We have the guns.

194 Posted on 10/29/2001 00:14:40 PST by WileyCoyote22 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 191 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Unfortunately, as a Christian, I must admit your right.

I find it very difficult to attach myself to any Congregation for these very truths. I was part of a Christian Intelligence Group in So. California, and we attempted to educate so-called Christian leaders in that area. We usually got 1 of 3 responses from these shepherds:

1. They rolled their eyes like we had just announced that aliens had landed.

2. They reminded us that we would all be out of this World soon. (Cult of the Rapture, misinterpreted Scripture)

3. That due to separation of Church and State their hands were tied. It was all to much for them anyway.

I think it is lost in our history, that it was Christian leaders that were advocating resisting the English tyranny that the Colonists were facing (Not even close to the Tyranny that we are under now).

Most Americans are totally ignorant of the fact that "The shot heard round the World" at Concord-Lexington was fired by a Citizen Militia headed up by the local Pastor, and that the conflist was precipitated by the RedCoats marching to seize their ball & powder (firearms for the ill-informed).

195 Posted on 10/29/2001 00:31:56 PST by TaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 192 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Who built the beast, this infernal menace the Christians have been railing against but haven't been doing squat to stop? Christians, that's who. Find me Congressmen, Presidents, heads of whatever convoluted branch of government it is, and then you show me that they are Satanists. Go ahead and find them. You won't find them. Why? Because no one would ever ever (said twice on purpose) claim themselves to be a Satanist AND also expect to carry any clout whatsoever in government.

They don't admit it, because they are liars. I assure you , they worship the god of this world. They don't like to use the name Satan though. They worship Lucifer, a god of light and knowledge. They hold the True G_d, the great 'I Am', of the old Testament, in contempt. They are very happy that the likes of you think that they are Christians. You are long on words and short on knowledge. You have much to learn.

Novus Ordo Seclorum OUR ORIGINAL AMERICAN MASONIC FOREFATHERS CONTINUALLY DEDICATED AMERICA TO SATAN! THE NWO AND WASHINGTON DC AL GORE, THE UNITED NATIONS, AND THE CULT OF GAIA Aquarian Conspiracy - Fact or Fiction? CHILD ABUSE AT THE PRESIDIO Protestors Return to Bohemian Grove Sun Myung Moon and George Bush Massachusetts Freemasons present CHIP (Child Identification Program) THE ADVANCE OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER The First Degree of Freemasonry Watch Cecil John Rhodes LUCIFER’S NETWORK The Mysteries New World Order Secret Societies

196 Posted on 10/29/2001 13:19:40 PST by Zadokite [ Reply | Private Reply | To 191 | Top | Last ] To: Zadokite

You have much to learn.

Of that I have no doubt, but I can say quite firmly that there is a big difference between teaching people about the enemy that's coming over the hill and actually uniting and fighting that enemy, literally chasing that enemy back to the other side of the hill and then posting a guard, a watch, so that that enemy never has a chance of getting through again, EVEN IF A BOOK SAYS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT APPEAR OTHERWISE.

From day one Christians should have been constantly searching for the beast, constantly on their guard making sure that it does not enter the camp on their watch, running it off of the steps of their churches and their homes. But instead, they've had their eyes to the sky, waiting for their rescue, warning others of the evil that must surely come to pass. Meanwhile, they haven't been watching their feet slowly and surely being wrapped in chains. It really doesn't take an Einstein to hear "that no one may buy or sell save he that hath the mark" and then think, "must be a global economics thing! Gotta watch the economics! Gotta keep money unbridled!" But did they do that? No. Instead they just went along, looking to the Heavens for their redemption, while the beast walked right up to them and turned them into lunch.

Think about this. Do you really believe it was God's intention in giving you life to have you bringing people to God (like God needed the help) while all the while watching this beast eat you alive? Do you really think that that's what it's all about? Well if you take a step back and take a look at the big picture, that's exactly the Christians' belief. They believe that there is no way that they can ever win, not here at least. Why? Because it says that in the Bible. It says that they can't win here, and that not winning here is winning there, in the city where the streets are paved with gold. Gold??? Pardon me, but isn't gold a man's-values thing? Isn't it man that considers gold to be valuable? Hmm? Why would the Creator make golden streets and rewards and mansions as an incentive? In my opinion, the Creator never did any such thing. Rather, man a very long time ago did that. Man wanted gold. Man wanted mansions. Man wanted rewards. In short, in the beginning man wrote a book called the Bible, and God had nothing to do with it. Ever since then man has used the Bible to man's advantage to keep Christians looking to the sky while they built the beast, all the while looking for their escape from the very beast they built. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It says such-n-such is going to happen, so there's nothing that can be done to prevent it. What a crock! Sure it is coming true by the day, but it doesn't have to.

And yes, I realize that the Bible says no one is to change anything. But think about it. What better way is there to ensure that everything stays on course? Isn't it said that if you always do what you've always done, then you always get what you've always got? Who would dare say that the Bible itself caused these things to come about? Who would dare utter such blasphemy? And so it was that man learned how to control man. All the world is doomed, and there's nothing you can do about it but worship God (never thinking about what God's real design might have been) and wait for your rescue. So just go along with whatever happens as it was always meant to be. Bologna!

197 Posted on 10/29/2001 22:25:07 PST by alien2 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 196 | Top | Last ] To: alien2; Zadokite

"Bologna."

Baloney bump.

198 Posted on 10/29/2001 22:43:03 PST by headsonpikes [ Reply | Private Reply | To 197 | Top | Last ] To: alien2

Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah,Blah.

The Bible doesn't say what you think it does. You might try reading it.

Heaven does not have streets of gold.

Think about this. Bump me when you read the sixteen links I posted, and you want to learn more about the nature of the beast.

199 Posted on 10/29/2001 23:18:43 PST by Zadokite [ Reply | Private Reply | To 197 | Top | Last ] To: Zadokite

Now the question is do I take the time to break out the concordance and lay out my argument, scripture by scripture, or do I just leave things where they are? Based on past experience (not necessarily on you in particular,) I will just say I will ponder the question. Does resolution really matter at this time? That is the overall question here. Frankly, at the moment, I'm leaning towards just going about my business, but to give you the benefit of the doubt, I'll at least ponder over doing the above mentioned.

200 Posted on 10/31/2001 00:02:49 PST by alien2 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 199 | Top | Last ] To: classygreeneyedblonde

Happy Halloween! A year late, but better late than never. Don't get too tangled little fly. The more you thrash about the worse it gets.

201 Posted on 11/04/2001 01:08:39 PST by philman_36 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 200 | Top | Last ] To: Zadokite

Thanks for the links and the re-affirmation. I AM is still known as the Truth to many.

Peace to you and yours in these troubled times.

202 Posted on 11/04/2001 01:30:53 PST by hogwaller [ Reply | Private Reply | To 196 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Bill

Bump.

203 Posted on 11/29/2001 19:14:03 PST by Inspector Harry Callahan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: *Funny_Money; *Globaloney; *Communist Subversion

bump

204 Posted on 12/14/2001 01:40:24 PST by Zadokite [ Reply | Private Reply | To 203 | Top | Last ]

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1 posted on 04/09/2006 12:32:55 AM PDT by philetus
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I'm speechless, so I'll quote Frank Barone:

"Holy Crap!"

3 posted on 04/09/2006 12:44:54 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.

You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love. Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I... I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake. But I... I do deny them my essence.
4 posted on 04/09/2006 12:49:39 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: sully777
LOL!

This thread should be titled "Dr. Strangepost, or How I Started Listening to SAVAGE! and Learned to Love The Endless Unreadable Rant"

5 posted on 04/09/2006 1:23:54 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. " TR)
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To: Darkwolf377

Thank God for the shadow government, the Catholic church, and all other competing centers of power that restrain the greedy and rapacious government from exercising total control over our lives.


6 posted on 04/09/2006 3:49:42 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: philetus

There's a blast from the past. I was up late, but too tired to reply. Thanks for posting this. My mom used to talk about those issues when I was a kid, and it looks like she and her books were right.

When they pull the rug out from under us, this country will probably sink as fast as a rock :(


7 posted on 04/09/2006 10:24:35 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: sully777

Don't be too quick about judging flouridization. It is a poison. For instance, it has been shown to attack the thyroid gland. I'm sure small amounts, ie toothpaste(like mom said-don't swallow it!)are safe, but if you drink a lot of water, who knows?

I know the intent of your post, but there is a problem with over consumption of flouride.


8 posted on 04/09/2006 10:29:05 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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