Rape Case Is Seen as Symbol at Black College in N.C. (Duke LAX)

Washington Post ^ | 05/07/2006 | Anne Hall

[OakOak]

We are with you. We are outraged with you. We will fight back for you..... .Rest assured, we will not rest until justice is done, especially the strong brothers. (snip)

Single mothers sometimes bring their kids to class, setting them up with juice and crayons in the back of Mass Comm. (snip) The most mundane beginnings explain her life. The youngest of three children, she grew up in Durham. Her father drove trucks and worked a second job cleaning cars on an auto lot. Her 1996 graduation photo from Hillside High School shows a girl with shoulder-length braids and a placid expression, neither serious nor smiling. In the space where other seniors included their hopes for the future, hers is blank.

[OakOak]

WARNING: Get a BOX of TISSURES before reading this!

Another Media article contrasting the Hard working people of Durham and the hard working students at NCCU to the evil , white, privleged partiers at Duke.

IMO, the WASH POST explains her life (she had no choice you see) and outlines how anyone faced with the same circumstances would become a stripper and a charged felon.

[dr_who_2]

Symbols are very important...to people who find rational thought to be too exhausting.

[dr_who_2]

"You can modify a time stamp," said sophomore Janera Federick. "Digital photos can be manipulated. I watch 'Law & Order.'

[DB]

This isn't about race or class, it is about truth and justice.

Too bad the latter are so unimportant these days...

[ncountylee]

Often wondered where "Human Resource's" personnel were educated (using the term loosely).

[BunnySlippers]

I thought blacks were really atuned to a "rush to judgment".

[Talking_Mouse]

"You can modify a time stamp," said sophomore Janera Federick. "Digital photos can be manipulated. I watch 'Law & Order.'

And I've watched 'Bob the Builder'. So Ms. Federick can be an expert witness and I can construct homes.

[ansel12]

" "It's like they can't believe that any white man could rape a black woman."


We're always told what to think , but wouldn't be easier to just give us the numbers.

What are the numbers for non-hispanic white rape of black females, and black rape of white females?

[OakOak]

This "journalism" is truly outrageous. It's apparent they seem to be furthering the Alleged victim's defender's spin that took a Joy Ride in a cab.

In truth, with her license ALREADY revoked, she ripped off one of her 'customers' at a strip club, she committed larceny and tried to run over a police officer. It's a long article, but I didn't see any mention of her trying to run over a police officer. I didn't see her problems with substance abuse detailed in the article (3 license suspensions, WRAL).

This article if typical of the Main Stream Media. They are, purposefully, taking us farther away from the details of the case and saying this GROUP of people have it hard and have many redeeming qualities and this OTHER group of people are privleged and undeserving. Criminal Courts acknowledge and deal with INDIVIDUALS. In this case, with the two EX-CON stripper twins, it doesn't serve the media's purpose to examine the individuals, but examining an entire group allows them to make it seem like this woman was trapped and had no other choices in life.

They conveniently use a timeline that would help Nifong even though it goes against the word of the second stripper and an on-camera eyewitness account provider by the neighbor that happens to match photos that are in the possession of the Defense.

There's no mention of the multiple lies by Kim Roberts that night, in fact they are misleading in describing that "the dancers left together, and Roberts drove to a grocery store, where police were called." How different if that from what really happened. Roberts lied on a 911 call and blocked her number and identity while calling the cops and mentioning NO RAPE or Injury. Roberts attempted to dump the accuser at the Kroger. When the accuser wouldn't get out of her car, she asked a Kroger security guard for help. Again, Roberts lied to the security guard about how Crystal came to be in her car. The article neglects to mention there was an outstanding warrant out for Roberts. It fails to mention that a police station is less than a mile away and much closer than Kroger.

The article does not mention it took 31 hours for the dancer to remember any details of the event and 3 weeks to ID someone.

The article states that the woman has said almost nothing on her behalf. When, in fact, News&Observer reporters interviewed her extensively at least once and the resulting story printed contained contradictions and untruths - attributed to the accuser.

[opinionator]

These people want to lynch those Duke boys. How times have changed.

[OakOak]

Statistics on Rape, cross-race:

0.0 percent of black victims were raped by white males,
see the explanation in the source below.


"There is no current trend of white men raping black women, in other words. In fact, though sample sizes are considered too small to draw any solid conclusions, the most recent figures show that among white rape victims, 15.5 percent of those rapes were perpetrated by blacks, while 0.0 percent of black victims were raped by white males. (Zero in this case is a rounded figure meaning that the total number of black women raped by white men is between 0 and half of 1 percent of the total.)"

Source: http://www.townhall.com/opinion/column/kathleenparker/2006/04/19/194220.html

[OakOak]

IMO, Urban Legend is contributing to this perception by blacks that White men rape black women in
relatively large numbers. I was tuning the Radio and I heard this Black station out of Durham. The Caller said the Duke boys did again what they did to that other girl and, if they aren't put away - they'll do it again. One of the Radio hosts said, that's true they got away with it before.

So, I looked for this other Duke Gang Rape in Durham.
This is what I found:

"They're trying to do to this girl what they did with that other girl," said James Fields, 81, alluding to an alleged rape of an NCCU student in 2001. "They'll try to degrade her any way they can."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/11/AR2006041101942.html

So NCCU Rape 2001 took me to this:

Two suspects in the alleged gang rape of a female N.C. Central University student were released Jan. 26 after the student decided to drop charges and NO PROBABLE CAUSE could be found.

Twin brothers Nathan and Quincy Rouson were arrested on Jan. 14 for second-degree rape and crimes against nature. They were detained in Durham County Jail with a bond of $50,000 each.

http://www.nccu.edu/campus/echo/archive5-0001/c-dropped.html

Sounds like two black guys (and 15 friends) from Roxboro - NOT DUKE STUDENTS.

THIS SURE LOOKS LIKE A URBAN LEGEND. This may be contributing to the outrage in Durham.

[ansel12]

In 1970 there was very little interracaial rape.

Since then things have changed.

Racism is clearly involved, that must be why the media won't put out those numbers.

Your link reveals why.

[lt.america]

This case smelled so badly of unethical politics that I couldn't stand to watch it unfold.

[Krankor]

I have a feeling a student at Duke is probably ten to fifteen times more likely to be the victim of a violent crime at the hands of one of the townsfolk than the other way around.

[stands2reason]

Not a lot of white guys named Quincy under the age of 65...

[Enterprise]

(Based on Peter Paul And Mary IF I HAD A HAMMER lyrics)

If I were a stripper,
I'd be strippin' in the morning
I'd be strippin' in the evening,
All over this land
I'd strip despite danger,
I'd yell you a warning,
I'd strip about sex between my brothers and my sisters,
All over this land.

If I wore some bells,
I'd tingle in the morning,
I'd tingle in the evening,
All over this land
I'd tingle 'bout danger,
I'd tingle you a warning
I'd tingle 'bout sex between my brothers and my sisters,
All over this land.

If I stripped to a song,
I'd be strippin' in the morning,
I'd be strippin ' in the evening,
All over this land
I'd strip despite danger,
I'd yell you a warning
I'd strip about sex between my brothers and my sisters,
All over this land.

Well I went and got hammered,
And I tinkled like a bell,
And I got a bong to smoke, all over this land.
It's the hammer of vodka,
It's the tinkle of too much beer,
It's the strippin' about sex between my brothers and my sisters,
All over this land.

[First_Salute]

I believe, that the lesson for all involved in this case, is to step back and be thankful, for having been warned that the path they were on, was wrong.

That applies to the district attorney, and to the complainants, and to the young men at the party: Forgive each other.

Instead, now, take the path of improving themselves, obtaining and maintaining good principles which are the bases of good conduct, and go in peace.

God Bless

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

Kristiana Bennett, a junior with a child and a part-time job, knows what that means. Between classes, she uses the phone to check on her son at day care. They live in a Section 8 apartment off campus. Once, in a financially desperate moment, Bennett considered dancing at an adult club -- $400 in a night compared with the $11 an hour she earned caring for an elderly woman. Ultimately, Bennett decided she couldn't do it. But that feeling of desperation is what made her relate to the accuser, whom she had met only in passing earlier this year.

"We are the same age," Bennett said. "Both of us are single mothers. And both of us are poor."

Becoming a young unwed mother is the single biggest correlative factor with remaining mired in poverty.

Perhaps it is irresponsible of these young women to have children outside of marriage?

Naaaaah, couldn't be that.

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

"You can modify a time stamp," said sophomore Janera Federick. "Digital photos can be manipulated. I watch 'Law & Order.'

This is so typical of sleazy MSM journalism. Instead of quoting a knowledgeable expert who would say how hard it is to manipulate in a non-traceable way the underlying metadata where the time data is embedded, the reporter instead takes the idea she wants to get across (the time stamps are phony) from the mouth of some random interviewee who, strictly speaking, need not as a journalistic matter have a reasonable basis for her statements.

[Bahbah]

Kristiana Bennett is a reporter for the Campus Echo, NCCU's student newspaper....Bennett spoke with neighbors [of the accuser]. One told of a barbecue where the woman behaved in an unflattering manner. Bennett could not bring herself to include the details in the article for her paper.

Ms. Bennett has a future with the Washington Post or the NYT. We don't print any facts that don't fit with our action line.

[2ndClassCitizen]

Did you note, the Washington Post did not post the name of the whore, the Washington Post did post the names of the accused. PS look up the definition of whore in dictionary.com.

NCCU is accepting of this "stripper". They do not condemn her lifestyle. The lifestyle is a looser. By their lack of condemnation of it, they have chosen to glorify it as acceptable. What a way to sink an entire culture and they will never blame themselves. Just another bunch of racists. How like the Klan they are.

[2ndClassCitizen]

Can you imagine the outcome if it is an all African American jury? PS I once knew a white guy who was born in Timbuktu.

[NCjim]

Ping

[Beckwith]

this GROUP of people have it hard and have many redeeming qualities and this OTHER group of people are privileged and undeserving.

The above statement is a text book example of cultural Marxism.

In political Marxism, those two groups are identified as the working man and the Bourgeoisie.

[RepoGirl]

"Digital photos can be manipulated. I watch 'Law & Order."

Yeah, and aliens eat cats. I used to watch ALF.

[dubyawhoiluv]

it amazes me how they continually water the facts about this lying victim, newly married and screwed the first navy guy on board ship,pregnant w/i weeks discharged w/i months ;several dwi stops,stripping at clubs for better than 5 yrs under assumed names , attempted to kill a police officer when alluding arrests in the "hood" she would be identified as a hood rat,skant whore and would be passed among the "brothers";anyone who lays up and has not one but two kids outside of marriage to sperm contributors who refuses to pay child support how is it that everyone else is to blame

[ladyjane]

Mornin' OakOak

Just to clarify those statistics - weren't they were for inter-race *gang* rape, i.e., two or more rapists?

They're really compelling. Even though Jessie Jackson said gangs of white men wanting to black women were commonplace, in fact, they are almost non-existent, a fraction of 1%. Those few cases that do make it into the data base have Hispanics mis-classified as black.

[L98Fiero]

I'm a bit sad to say this case has shown me a light I didn't want to see. This is what "black" institutions do. Ferment hate against whites. Nobody in their right mind can look at what is known about this case and not question the accuser. That is, unless they want to use it as an excuse to hurt some white folks.

[hershey]

Duke has deep pockets. Somewhere in all this there must be a way for the alleged 'victim' to sue Duke...an ongoing climate of hate and racial intimidation? That should work.

[Vision]

Rest assured, we will not rest until justice is done, especially the strong brothers

Is this that funny ebonics stuff people talk about?

[kalee]

No tissues needed here. I live about 30 mi from Durham and am waiting for Nifong to release the new DNA tets. He said he would do so after the election, but he's being awfully quiet now that he won.

[robertpaulsen]

"Things fell apart when the woman met another man. The couple separated, and she became pregnant."

Well, yes, but not in that order.

[robertpaulsen]

What color was Kim's (the other stripper) car?

[traumer]

"We are the same age," Bennett said. "Both of us are single mothers. And both of us are poor."

..... and we are victims

[Calvin Locke]

I'm surprised they didn't try to include the rapes of black Africans, under the auspices of the UN, by white Euro
"peace keepers" in any statistics. (sex for food scandal)

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

[OakOak]

Excellent point SirJohn!!!

Substance abuse and a criminal history doesn't help anyone's, of any stripe, financial status either!

[OakOak]

Duke has deep pockets. Somewhere in all this there must be a way for the alleged 'victim' to sue Duke


The woman's family has already met with a CIVIL attorney. There is no doubt that is the goal here.

[OakOak]

Now that was Funny! LMAO!!

[last american]

Not rationalizing what the duke pigs did, but I find it interesting that those that claim to be most offended, are more than likely the most "offenders".

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#lifetime

Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 17% of Hispanic males and 5.9% of white males.

[OakOak]

Ladyjane,

In the article by Kathleen Parker it doens't mention those stats tied to gang-rape. Although, I've seen other Freep posts citing the same stats for gang rapes (cross race).

One thing we DO know, if those stats were incriminating of whites, we'd be reading them at the top of every article on this subject. Just like EVERY article points out the race of the alleged victim and the race of the suspects.

[dr_who_2]

I don't watch 'Law and Order'. If I did, maybe I could get ahead!

[dr_who_2]

The accuser reminds me of Tom Robinson's accuser in To Kill A Mockingbird. She was a pitiful character, and she knew it. The only security blanket she had was her made-up story. The Jim Crow jury in that story also had to rule in her favor, because the truth wasn't acceptable.

[OakOak]

We have to repect to amount of time this people have put into watching TV.

I'm surprised the Post let that slip in. They'd like to portray like most of these poor people don't own televisions.

I did notice the going rate, cleared, for women working as escorts in Durham is $100.00 an hour. It seems they were getting paid considerably more for this gig at the off-campus house.

[OakOak]

Ping.

[JLS]

"We are the same age," Bennett said. "Both of us are single mothers. And both of us are poor."

..... and we are victims
_______________________________________________________

That is the irony. Statistically the way to almost assure that you will be poor is to be female and have children without bothering to be married. So they victimized themselves but I guess no one ever points that out?

[OakOak]

.. Notice how the Main Stream Media is walking in lock-step,
look at the similarities in this article by the New York Times. See how the Drive-by Media is taking the same "angle" on this story

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/01/education/01central.html?hp&ex=1146456000&en=2f0a5418e2db9701&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[dr_who_2]

We have to repect to amount of time this people have put into watching TV.

It almost has gotten to the point that I get annoyed at people who regularly watch and talk about TV, not a good thing. I could maybe get a decent tv, pay $100 a month in cable/satellite bills flipping between reruns of The Beverly Hillbillies/BBC citcoms/Mexican Game shows/Pakistani Musicals/Learning Channel stuff to my heart's content without hating myself too much, but it's easier and cheaper to keep throwing away tv's that other people have dumped on me. Flat screens, projection screen tv's, DVDs are cool, but not worth it if they gather dust too much of the time.