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Fans boo new parking rules
San Diego Union ^ | May 14, 2006 | Alex Roth

Posted on 05/14/2006 6:40:48 AM PDT by radar101

The San Diego Chargers and their fans have an awkward relationship these days. The fans do their best to root for the team despite knowing that two years from now, the Chargers might pick up and move to Las Vegas, San Antonio or who knows where.

Now Chargers fans have found another reason to be grumpy: pricier new parking rules for home games.

Chargers fans tailgated outside San Diego Stadium in 1973. Thirty-three years later, the name of the stadium is different, but the tradition of tailgating remains. The rules, which include restrictions on where recreational vehicles can park and a quadrupling of fees to reserve certain prime tailgating space, have left some season-ticket holders complaining that the tailgating experience will be ruined.

Some longtime fans are so upset they are thinking about giving up their season tickets. The way they see it, forcing them to change their pre-game parking rituals is a bit like forcing them to limit their tailgating menu to wine coolers and fondu.

“I know who Ryan Leaf is. I suffered through 1-15,” said Paul Sanchez, 42, of Hemet, a season-ticket holder for 10 years. “I've never once threatened to turn in my tickets . . . but this is just not right.”

Team executives say the fans are overreacting to a few modest changes that actually will make parking easier while preserving time-honored tailgating rituals. The team adopted the new rules, Chargers officials say, in part because police warned them to get control of the Qualcomm Stadium parking lot. The team, not the city, has sole discretion over parking rates for Chargers games and keeps all the revenue.

“We're not trying to make change for change's sake,” said Jim Steeg, the Chargers' executive vice president and chief operating officer. “We're trying to make things better.”

The fans will realize fairly quickly, Steeg predicted, that the new parking system is actually an improvement.

“It's going to take two games for everything to settle in,” he said.

Perhaps the biggest change is that RVs won't be allowed to park wherever they want anymore. Chargers executives say that in the past RVs have occupied five or six spaces that could have been used to park other cars.

Now, RVs will be restricted to the A sections in the northeast corner of the Qualcomm Stadium complex, which can accommodate roughly 350 of the vehicles. Instead of paying $34 to park, RV owners will pay $100 per game if they buy a parking pass in advance, or $150 if they buy the pass on game day. Season-pass holders will get a 20 percent discount.

RV owners also have the option of buying two “buddy” parking passes – at $20 each – in the adjacent B sections. The idea is that an RV owner's pals can park there and walk over to tailgate. Each RV space will come with an adjacent empty space where the owner can set up the barbecue grill, picnic tables and other tailgating essentials.

But some die-hard tailgaters say the new regulations will change the whole dynamic of their beloved game-day bashes.

Nick Ortiz, 43, of Chula Vista, a season-ticket holder since 1991, has been tailgating in the B2 section with the same group of buddies for more than a decade. They sit around an “old broken-down camper” while they barbecue pork roasts and carne asada and drink frosty beverages.

Not only is the new system more expensive, Ortiz said, but it will make it much more complicated for his pals to congregate in the same place. Ortiz, a transportation planner for the county, is thinking about canceling his season tickets.

“It will completely change the routine and tradition we've had the last 15 years,” he said.

Other fans are bothered by another new rule: One of the parking lot's prime tailgating sections – the spaces on the outer perimeter of the parking-lot fence – now must be reserved ahead of time, at $75 per game, with the option of buying up to two adjacent “buddy” spaces at $20 each. In the past, these spots have been open to all vehicles at no extra charge on a first-come, first-served basis.

Bob Yates, 66, of Del Mar, a season-ticket holder for 20 years, has been tailgating with his buddies in that section for years. Their weekly delicacies include everything from jalapeño poppers to barbecued lobster tail. They usually show up at 6 a.m., just as the gates opened, to make sure they got the spaces they wanted.

Yates, who owns a Rancho Bernardo laundry, adamantly refuses to pay extra next season for those parking spaces.

“I feel they're just milking us,” he said. “And then they're going to leave town. It's as simple as that.”

Chargers officials say the new policy will help reduce the morning chaos in the parking lot, where drivers engage in a mad dash that leads to accidents and other problems.

Last year, Steeg said, the team surveyed the fans who tailgated along the fence line and discovered that many of them would be willing to pay extra to reserve these prime spots so they could avoid the “hunt and peck” parking scramble.

“We're trying to bring structure to the unstructured,” Steeg said.

He noted that fans unwilling to pay for the reserved parking are still free to tailgate in other sections of the parking lot.

There are some other changes, too. The price of regular parking will increase to $20, from $17. The opening of the parking lot on game days will be pushed back two hours, from 6 to 8 a.m.. For night games, it will open five hours before kickoff.

Steeg noted that many other NFL teams have similar policies, especially regarding RV parking. Both the Oakland Raiders and the San Francisco 49ers limit RVs to one section of the stadium, at a cost of $40. The Raiders charge $15 for cars to park, while the 49ers charge $25.

Steeg realizes the changes might take some getting used to. He knows full well that some fans are very particular when it comes to their favorite plot of asphalt.

While many Chargers fans have complained about the higher prices, the main complaint, he said, “is something like, 'I've always been under the light post in F4 and now you're making me go somewhere else,' ” he said.

Indeed, for some die-hard tailgaters, a fan's Sunday-morning parking ritual is as hallowed as his choice of jersey and the choice of meat he throws on the grill.

Disrespect these rituals at your peril, they warn.

“We love the Chargers. We love being in the stadium,” said Sanchez, the fan from Hemet. “You stick with them year after year and then they treat you like they're the Raiders.”


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KEYWORDS: chargers; greed; sandiego; sports
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The combined greed of: Alex Spanos, City of San Diego, and Ace Auto Parks(Who contributes to every San Diego election campaign)
1 posted on 05/14/2006 6:40:50 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

Well, when someone with an IQ of 50 gets a few million to run around after a ball...


2 posted on 05/14/2006 6:46:09 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: radar101

Spanos is a crook, what do you expect.


3 posted on 05/14/2006 6:49:03 AM PDT by Jimbaugh (Fear the Base !!!)
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To: radar101
There are some other changes, too. The price of regular parking will increase to $20, from $17.

That part will save lots of time making change and the need to have a ton of singles on hand. The rest sounds like an attempt to control use of multiple spaces by single vehicles, which leaves more room for paying vehicles.

Remember fans, it IS a business!

4 posted on 05/14/2006 6:52:54 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: radar101

The poor City of Angels... they aren't even in the running for the Chargers.


6 posted on 05/14/2006 7:04:24 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: radar101
The fans will realize fairly quickly, Steeg predicted, that the new parking system is actually an improvement.

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."(HRC)

7 posted on 05/14/2006 7:06:47 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: radar101
Chargers fans tailgated outside San Diego Stadium in 1973. Thirty-three years later, the name of the stadium is different, but the tradition of tailgating remains.

Was this stadium known as Balboa stadium? If not, whatever happened to Balboa Stadium? - tom

8 posted on 05/14/2006 7:07:49 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: JoeSixPack1

You WILL comply! Resistance is futile.

9 posted on 05/14/2006 7:25:08 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Capt. Tom

Balboa Stadium was torn down years ago. It hung around for a decade or two after the "Q" was built but was no longer used for major sporting events.


10 posted on 05/14/2006 7:25:17 AM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (I think, therefor I Zot!)
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To: Trampled by Lambs
Balboa Stadium was torn down years ago. It hung around for a decade or two after the "Q" was built but was no longer used for major sporting events.

Thanks for the info.

I was in San Diego many years ago and I remember Balboa Stadium where the Chargers played. - Tom

11 posted on 05/14/2006 7:35:08 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: radar101

Unfortunately, most professional sports teams have little, if any allegiance to the areas in which they play or the fans. If they can get a better deal or a new stadium with more luxury boxes, they will leave in a heartbeat.

Most people don't realize the degree to which the public subsidizes professional sports teams - not only does the public fund everything from stadiums to practice facilities, but professional sports teams receive major tax breaks, including depreciation of players.


12 posted on 05/14/2006 8:06:56 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: Lunatic Fringe
The poor City of Angels... they aren't even in the running for the Chargers.

And that's just fine with me. Los Angeles has the USC Trojans and the Occidental College Tigers. Who needs the NFL?

13 posted on 05/14/2006 8:12:04 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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“I feel they're just milking us,” he said. “And then they're going to leave town. It's as simple as that.”

That pretty well sums it up.

Anybody else besides me notice that the Chargers took the words "San Diego" off all of their logos and collateral merchandise three years ago? I think they're trying to tell their fans something that they don't want to come right out and say aloud.

14 posted on 05/14/2006 8:20:04 AM PDT by SamKeck
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To: Capt. Tom; Trampled by Lambs

Actually it still exists and is the home field of San Diego High School.


15 posted on 05/14/2006 9:16:04 AM PDT by wi jd
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To: Baynative
I won't go to a pro sporting event. I'll watch them on TV, if they're free, but the cost is prohibitive. For direct visiting, small town Texas high school football is the best ticket in town:


16 posted on 05/14/2006 9:24:09 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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To: radar101
“We're not trying to make change for change's sake,” said Jim Steeg, the Chargers' executive vice president and chief operating officer. “We're trying to make things better.”

Why do supposedly educated men think that trotting out such a load of old rubbish will fly anywhere?

It's about the money and always was. The sooner these people stop lying to their paying customers the quicker it will be resolved. If the fans leave, we'll know exactly where to place the blame.

17 posted on 05/14/2006 9:30:36 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Trampled by Lambs

Did Qualcomm Stadium used to be known as Jack Murphy Stadium? (selling naming rights to trump sentiment).


18 posted on 05/14/2006 9:36:05 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: radar101
Seems like a lot of colleges and pro teams are trying to kill tailgating. This team is trying to kill it and make a lot of money killing it.

The conspiracy side of me, though, has always felt that sports are just a distraction to keep the masses from watching what the government is doing. You take away pro sports and doritos and see how much politicians get away with.
19 posted on 05/14/2006 9:44:12 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: IndyTiger

Yes, it used to be called Jack Murphy Stadium.


20 posted on 05/14/2006 10:48:14 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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