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Da Vinci Code Actor: "Bible Should Have a Disclaimer Saying 'This Is Fiction'"
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 05/17/2006 5:54:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

May 17, 2006

If the Da Vinci Code was already feeding the flames of controversy with its challenge to the basic tenets of Christianity, actor Ian McKellen managed to throw a refinery tank's worth of gasoline on the fire on this morning's Today show, asserting that the Bible should carry a disclaimer saying that it is "fiction."

Matt Lauer, on his second day "On The Road With The Code," was in Cannes for the film festival, where the Code will have its debut. It has already been screened to some critics, who have given it decidedly mixed reviews.

As I reported here yesterday, NBC reporter Melissa Stark timidly dipped a toe in the sea of controversy when yesterday she interviewed Code director Ron Howard, asking how he reacted to the controversy the movie has created . . . for the Church! Sounding more like the Delphic oracle than a Hollywood director, Howard offered up some ambiguous prose about it being healthy thing for people to engage their beliefs.

Lauer took the bull of controversy more directly by the horns when he interviewed the cast and director Howard today. Said Lauer:

"There have been calls from some religious groups, they wanted a disclaimer at the beginning of this movie saying it is fiction because one of the themes in the book really knocks Christianity right on its ear, if Christ survived the crucifixion, he did not die for our sins and therefore was not resurrected. What I'm saying is, people wanted this to say 'fiction, fiction, fiction'. How would you all have felt if there was a disclaimer at the beginning of the movie? Would it have been okay with you?"

There was a pause, and then famed British actor Ian McKellen [Gandalf of Lord of the Rings], piped up:

"Well, I've often thought the Bible should have a disclaimer in the front saying this is fiction. I mean, walking on water, it takes an act of faith. And I have faith in this movie. Not that it's true, not that it's factual, but that it's a jolly good story. And I think audiences are clever enough and bright enough to separate out fact and fiction, and discuss the thing after they've seen it."

With the camera focused on McKellen, one could hear a distinctly nervous laugh in the background, seeming to come from either actor Tom Hanks or director Howard. McKellen's stunning bit of blasphemy is likely to test the adage that all publicity is good publicity.

Finkelstein, recently a guest on the Lars Larson Show, lives in the liberal haven of Ithaca, NY, where he hosts the award-winning public-access TV show 'Right Angle'. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net


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To: liberallarry
The first two would result in a serious decline in public civility, already at an abysmal low.

What does it do to "public civility" when a major studio brings out a movie based on a book, both of which allege that a (real) religion is based on an abject lie and that a (real) organization, part of that religion, goes around the world killing people who might reveal the "truth"?

Do you think slander and lies on a massive scale for profit contributes to "public civility"?

IMO, if people want more "public civility," they can maybe start by not telling vicious, ugly lies about others, hmmm?

221 posted on 05/17/2006 10:42:38 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: weegee
The network doesn't pimp every film or tv show.

The controversial summer blockbuster made from the best-selling book? This isn't Pauly Shore's next movie.

Why can't atheists conspire if they are accusing the Christians of doing so?

So anyone involved in this film is an atheist? That's it, that's the ticket.

222 posted on 05/17/2006 10:54:30 AM PDT by cryptical (Wretched excess is just barely enough.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
"Triumph of the Will" is a masterpiece. Unfortunately, it was one for the bad guys.

It is one of those films that you can only praise in the proper context as too many people will automatically jump to the conclusion that you're a nazi (Joe are you now or have you ever been a nazi?). As abhorrent as the nazis were they did leave items of historical significance. That film is one of them.BTW nazi is deliberately not capitalized as they don't even deserve that honor.
223 posted on 05/17/2006 10:55:48 AM PDT by JosephW (Mohammad Lied, People die!)
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To: cousair

Is there anything about "the Da Vinci Code" to prove all religions are false?

Or could the Islamic cult use the seeds of doubt ("Christ was just a man, He was never crucified, etc.") to step in and say "this is what we've said all along, get on the RIGHT path and become muslim..."?

After the break-up comes the "rebound".


224 posted on 05/17/2006 10:56:30 AM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Ian obviously doesn't have the wisdom of Gandalf...

Definitely not, less then Pippin.

225 posted on 05/17/2006 10:59:18 AM PDT by DungeonMaster
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To: Mo1
"Bible Should Have a Disclaimer Saying 'This Is Fiction'"

The big guy upstairs says he's wrong

Really? Did he issue a statement on McKellan's comments that I missed?

226 posted on 05/17/2006 10:59:27 AM PDT by BearArms
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To: cryptical
The controversial summer blockbuster made from the best-selling book?

The film hasn't opened yet. It is EXPECTED to be a big blockbuster but then so was Ishtar.

The Swift Boat Veterans had a "controversial best-seller" too. I wouldn't expect a movie based on it to outsell Star Wars.

So anyone involved in this film is an atheist?

Ian is. The author is certainly opposed to Christianity.

I don't claim that everyone involved in this film is atheist. Would you claim that everyone involved in the production/promotion of The Passion was a Christian, there is no doubt that film had an agenda too.

I do question those who find it "worthy" ro promote this film over others (especially in light of the weak reviews).

227 posted on 05/17/2006 11:03:36 AM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: Echo Talon
I bought Narnia on DVD and I still haven't watched that yet

I'm glad I only blew $2 to see it in the theater.

228 posted on 05/17/2006 11:14:26 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Campion
Do you think slander and lies on a massive scale for profit contributes to "public civility"?

Slander on a massive scale is punishable by massive fines - as it should be.

There are huge numbers of religious people in this country. They certainly have the funds to mount a real lawsuit. I know this is costly, time-consuming, irritating. I don't know any other way. Only by mounting such an action, will the distinctions between free-speech and slander by clarified.

I know I have the right to publicly dispute any and all claims made by the Bible without fear of prosecution. I know I don't have the right to claim that a religious organization (or anyone) goes around killing people unless I can prove it.

229 posted on 05/17/2006 11:20:01 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Tokra
Well badly cooked/spoiled shellfish tends to be toxic since they are bottom feeders. At this particular moment in history God was on to something. God calls homosexuality an abomination meaning God finds the act of same sex disgusting, loathsome, repellent etc...

Also some Jewish people still maintain a kosher diet and think homosexuality is an abomination.

As for Christians Jesus taught all evil things come from the inside out not outside in. That is why Christan's have no guilt eating shellfish.

But keep in mind Jesus condemned fornication and since only one man and one woman can become one in Gods eyes that makes homosexuality still an abomination (And you will never change a true Jesus first Christian's mind).
230 posted on 05/17/2006 11:20:09 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: liberallarry
What makes you think I don't? I'm posting to this thread because I'd like punishment for blasphemy to remain a relic, and not become a present reality.

It already IS a present reality, but you don't recognize it in it's secular form. When Trent Lott utters his blasphemous political opinion by liberal's standards or when some poor schmuck uses the word niggardly accurately there is Hell To Pay, and it ain't coming from the Christians.

231 posted on 05/17/2006 11:24:31 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: EmilyGeiger

"He's also a militant homosexual...."


"Didn't know that."




Watch the first X-men and whenever the script talks about "differeces" and "people different from normal people" just replace that with their true underling message to accept homosexuallity.



In particular in the scene when the mother asks her "closeted" x-man son "to just tried to act "normal"


232 posted on 05/17/2006 11:30:04 AM PDT by RedMonqey (People who don't who stand for something, will fall for anything.)
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To: JosephW
"Triumph of the Will" is a masterpiece. Unfortunately, it was one for the bad guys.

Although I disagree wholeheartedly with the content, the cinematography is a case study in propaganda filming. Lighting, angles, etc. are all used to create a sense of majesty even as people are being stripped of their rights, and so effectively so, that they clamored for more.

The same techniques are used by propagandists today, from TV news to Hollywood (and other) movies.

It is one of those films that you can only praise in the proper context as too many people will automatically jump to the conclusion that you're a nazi (Joe are you now or have you ever been a nazi?).

No. I have never been a nazi, and have no desire or inclination to be one.

As abhorrent as the nazis were they did leave items of historical significance. That film is one of them.

And those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. I am afraid we have reached the point where segments of our society are susceptible to that sort of programming, regardless of the 'message' behind it. Knowledge of and vigillance against those techniques is the best defense.

233 posted on 05/17/2006 11:41:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: TradicalRC
It already IS a present reality, but you don't recognize it in it's secular form.

It's called political correctness.

I hate it...and do everything I can to ridicule it, curse it, expose it as one of the great dangers to our society.

234 posted on 05/17/2006 11:53:53 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Smokin' Joe
I am afraid we have reached the point where segments of our society are susceptible to that sort of programming, regardless of the 'message' behind it.

There are ALWAYS such segments. That's the tough part, the part which separates the men from the boys.

235 posted on 05/17/2006 11:58:36 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: rollo tomasi
But keep in mind Jesus condemned fornication and since only one man and one woman can become one in Gods eyes that makes homosexuality still an abomination (And you will never change a true Jesus first Christian's mind).

Jesus did not say one word about homosexuality. He said plenty about greed, about hypocrisy and especially about judging others - but absolutely nothing about homosexuality.

I'd be a lot more worried about "Judge not lest ye be judged" than I would about something he didn't even see fit to mention.

Well badly cooked/spoiled shellfish tends to be toxic since they are bottom feeders. At this particular moment in history God was on to something.

I'll grant you that point - it makes sense. The ban about homosexuality made sense at the time too, since nomadic & agricultural societies needed to have as many children as possible. The one I have trouble grasping is the ban against wearing cloth made out of more than one material. Yes - according to the Bible, if you wear a cotton/polyester blend you are an abomination before God.

Again - many people seem to pick and choose which sins THEY think are important, while totally ignoring those THEY think are unimportant.

236 posted on 05/17/2006 11:58:37 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: tylendel

Nope, that's not the piece.


237 posted on 05/17/2006 12:00:27 PM PDT by Serb5150 (Christ is risen! Indeed He is risen!)
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi

238 posted on 05/17/2006 12:03:10 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Yeah, but what about the Koran, Ian?


239 posted on 05/17/2006 12:06:44 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Sir" Ian McKellen is a flamboyant 'out-of-the-closet' homosexual who made quite a scene at one of the early "Ring" picture parties (or possibly the Academy Awards) cavorting for the cameras with a 30+ some year younger 'boyfriend'.

So.....he MIGHT not be the most unbiased authority on the Bible.....

240 posted on 05/17/2006 12:24:55 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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