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SELIGMAN: ADDITIONAL MOTION FOR VOLUNTARY DISCOVERY
WRAL ^ | May 17, 2006

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:41:55 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights

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To: Lurker

That's right.


61 posted on 05/18/2006 5:00:13 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle
I think he did believe her, but I don't think he does anymore and hasn't since the first DNA results came back. Since then, he's been trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. What he has going for him is control of records and the court process, but that's just a stalling game. It's not an end game.

I've gone back and forth on whether or not Nifong ever believed her, and judging by his continual unethical behavior, I don't think he did.

When this story broke, my gut reaction was that Mangum was a prostitute and the players had consensual sex with her, but did not rape her. I have to believe that Nifong, who knew Mangum was a prostitute, thought the same thing and was confident he was going to find the player's DNA on her, so he ran with the case.

Just consider the reaction of Nancy Grace and Wendy Murphy with NO DNA evidence linking the players to Mangum. If Nifong could have come up with DNA evidence, even if it was tranferred through consensual sex, I have little doubt these boys would be convicted of rape by a Durham jury and the Drive By Media.

62 posted on 05/18/2006 5:02:26 AM PDT by Publius22
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To: Jezebelle

That's her father. I recognize the silhouette.

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are you serious? he has had one hard life then


63 posted on 05/18/2006 5:03:16 AM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: Alia

I only knew that was a name she used at one time. I was spelling it "Jeanette"

Her "Stage" name... Maybe written Ja'Nette (or some variable)


64 posted on 05/18/2006 5:03:53 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: uncitizen

Yeah, she changed in about a week's time. All along she was on Mangum's side every weekend on her show, then she changed last weekend, and now she's pro-defense. i think her ratings tanked because of her stupidity and she got a wake-up call from FNC that she was making a fool of herself and her show was suffering for it. The reason I think this is because she's been on Hannity rehabilitating herself, whereas before she was only on Hannity once to speak for Mangum and Nifong and the rest was on her own show. Now she's on Hannity a lot speaking for the defense.


65 posted on 05/18/2006 5:05:28 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Publius22

to support you post: I remember her defenders saying even a prostitute can be raped when this thing first came out


66 posted on 05/18/2006 5:05:37 AM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Yours is ringing "recall bells" for me. I think you did look for a Jeanette.


67 posted on 05/18/2006 5:06:29 AM PDT by Alia
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To: writmeister

Yes, she's a victim's advocate, and she's done some fine work pertaining to protection of children from pedophiles. But when it comes to adults, she apparently has trouble recognizing who's the victim and who's the perpetrator.


68 posted on 05/18/2006 5:07:28 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

Other TV hosts have brought it (three wealthiest) up - Dan Abrams for one.


69 posted on 05/18/2006 5:08:58 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Alia

Sometimes this stuff just floats around in that space between my ears, LOL! If I could only grab it.


70 posted on 05/18/2006 5:10:28 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Alia; TexKat; All

http://www.ourheartsworld.com/


http://www.chicagodefender.com/page/national.cfm?ArticleID=5398

Web site created in support of Duke rape victim

by Defender News Services
May 18, 2006

The Triangle Urban League (TUL), the NC Conference of NAACP Branches, along with several Black newspapers in North Carolina, are set to unveil a community-based website that allows people from across the country to express their love, support and concern for the alleged survivor in the Duke lacrosse gang rape case.

Keith Sutton, TUL president/CEO, and Dr. William Barber, NC NAACP president, will make comment on why Black community leaders and the Black Press came together to provide a vehicle by which the survivor can realize that she is not alone.

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The Black newspapers – The Carolinian of Raleigh, The Carolina Times of Durham, and the Wilmington Journal – signed on to be part of the project’s “Coalition of the Concerned” because of the immense media bias against the survivor.

Because Black newspapers were originally founded as vehicles of advocacy, they are required, by tradition and standard, not only to report to the African-American community, to stand up for their community anytime it is under attack.

Other community-based organizations listed among the Coalition of the Concerned include the NC Black Leadership caucus, the Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance of Durham and Vicinity, Andrea Harris, El-Hajj Sheik Kenneth Murray-Muhammad (who passed just this week) and his wife, Sister Margaret Rose Murray-Muhammad. NNPA


71 posted on 05/18/2006 5:18:12 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Jezebelle

WRAL.com will have the video of the hearing, scheduled for 2:30pm EST today.


72 posted on 05/18/2006 5:19:12 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: maggief
They have every vested interested in trying to OVERCOME if not "HIDE" and "DIVERT ATTENTION AWAY" from the corruption going on in Durham. Typical. Crappy, but typical. And no doubts their sites will have links to the feminist websites.

There is nothing new under the sun.

73 posted on 05/18/2006 5:25:35 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Seligman's attorney has filed for discovery. He is very interested in FA's plea agrrement--when she tried to "whoops, accident" run over the cop.

In the early stages of this case, I partly followed this story by reading a lefty blog, "Rachel's Tavern," because of the comments by a poster named "Chris," who claimed to be close friends with a couple of lacrosse players. Some of his info did, in fact, turn out to be a step ahead of the news, so perhaps he was who he claimed to be. One statement he made, which I haven't given much thought to in a long time, is that Mangum was rumored to have been an informant who had "rolled over" on someone in a drug case. I'm curious if anyone with LE or legal experience can tell if that's what Seligmann's lawyers might be looking for with these motions.

They are asking for all cases in which Mangum and Roberts were used or considered as witnesses. I'm not sure what value that info would even have for the defense.

(Don't bother going to Rachel's Tavern to find Chris' posts, the feminazi in charge deleted all the comments on her blog as soon as this story started to unfold in way she didn't like.)

74 posted on 05/18/2006 5:27:15 AM PDT by Publius22
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To: Carolinamom

Thank you for that--I was wondering if we would be able to see it live.


75 posted on 05/18/2006 5:27:22 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
lol! I've got a notebook with scads of notes! And then newer stuff emerges, I scan my notes which lead to the information I'm requesting, and I've got to somehow stay on focus to maintain focus upon the lead I'm after. But meanwhile reconnecting older "issues" with newer "issues".. and the picture of corruption becomes clearer and clearer.. and I still haven't yet gotten to that one bit that I started with.

yup. lol.

76 posted on 05/18/2006 5:28:23 AM PDT by Alia
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To: All; Jezebelle; uncitizen

I looked back at Weekend posts to see what was reported on Kimberly Gilfoil

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1631677/posts?page=439#439

in the above link, there's a post saying that Kimberly interpreted the DNA from the Friday night Press conference as pointing to guilt in the Lacrosse players. Post 500 in the same thread also refers to Kimberly Gilfoil.

Gilfoil may have become slightly more reasonable but nothing like last night.


77 posted on 05/18/2006 5:30:05 AM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: Publius22
Don't bother going to Rachel's Tavern to find Chris' posts, the feminazi in charge deleted all the comments on her blog as soon as this story started to unfold in way she didn't like.)

As is her right to do. And while she shrieks 'CENSORSHIP"... "BIAS" at pubbies, no doubts, and goes on and on about how MALES (and also named Chris) are out to silence womym's voices.

shaking head..

78 posted on 05/18/2006 5:31:40 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Publius22

i have always wondered if Kim or the AV were informants.

Those deals were too nice. They are not typical.


79 posted on 05/18/2006 5:33:01 AM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

Follow the links on http://www.pretendpundit.com/2006/05/duke_rape_accus.html

There's one that shows a picture of Crystal. (She is not what I'd call attractive.) See: More Information about Crystal Gail Mangum.
It links to http://www.dilby.com/duke-lacrosse-team-accuser.htm

Half way down the page is a reference to Oscar Compton. Could that be the "boyfriend"?


80 posted on 05/18/2006 5:49:21 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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