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WinHEC: Microsoft moving to 64 bit only, says Gates(yet another Vista delay)
IT World Canada ^ | 24 May 2006 | Jeff Jedras and Martyn Williams

Posted on 05/25/2006 7:28:29 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

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To: Golden Eagle
Sure, he could abandon those users, like Apple

Apple didn't abandon, they provided an upgrade path.

First, they included "Classic" running within OS X for OS 9 applications. This environment sometimes ran OS 9 programs even faster than booting straight into OS 9 on the same hardware.

Second, they provided dual-booting into OS 9 and OS X for those rare programs that just wouldn't run under Classic.

Third, a couple years prior to OS X, Apple released an API that contained about 95% of the system calls normally used in OS 9 applications, requiring little modification to most programs to this API. OS 9 programs conforming to this Carbon API could run on OS X natively.

Fourth, for the transition to Intel, Apple built in a seamless emulator for PPC applications. You don't even know it's running unless you check. For those people using XCode, compiling your program to a universal binary (PPC and Intel) is simply a checkbox.

I wouldn't call that abandoning users.

61 posted on 05/27/2006 11:14:14 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: N3WBI3
So windows is safe on the internet so long as you pass your web traffic through..

Windows is safe on the Internet so long as you pass your web traffic through 127.0.0.1.

62 posted on 05/27/2006 11:17:32 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
and I'll go there with anonymizer running

You realize that by that sentence you're literally saying "and I'll go there with Linux protecting me," don't you?

63 posted on 05/27/2006 11:18:40 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
Well TCP/IP is your only protocol that's exposed to the internet

UDP?

I know, time for you to go look up yet something else.

64 posted on 05/27/2006 11:21:12 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I specifically mentioned Apple abandoning the Apple II users, but like most of my points it was either over your head or before your time.


65 posted on 05/30/2006 7:12:18 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Where's your proof? The noobie put up netcraft stats for their website host and you fell for it?


66 posted on 05/30/2006 7:15:09 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

"TCP/IP" is a suite of protocols that includes UDP. You're as stupid as those liberal arts wannabees around here if you didn't know that.


67 posted on 05/30/2006 7:17:32 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
"TCP/IP" is a suite of protocols that includes UDP.

Now you change your story, referring to the Internet protocol suite stack, after you looked up UDP. I'm sorry you have to continually educate yourself in order to keep up in these technical discussions.

BTW, stuff does get through. IIRC, Anonymizer had some problems with Javascripting getting through to IE. Javascript is, after all, just text.

68 posted on 05/30/2006 7:46:55 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
I specifically mentioned Apple abandoning the Apple II users

And just think, if they hadn't transitioned to a new architecture, their stuff would be as old and broken as Microsoft's.

69 posted on 05/30/2006 8:01:59 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: N3WBI3
Who the hell does Balmer have in charge of development? Rube Goldberg?

You can't talk to Ballmer like that, he'll throw a f***ing chair at you, you big pu**y!

70 posted on 05/30/2006 8:03:44 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I didn't change anything, I said TCP/IP from the beginning, you're the idiot that claimed it didn't include UDP.


71 posted on 05/30/2006 8:49:10 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
I didn't change anything, I said TCP/IP from the beginning

You said "TCP/IP is your only protocol that's exposed to the internet..." Protocol. Singular, denoting TCP running on IP (although 'TCP/IP protocol' is wrong since it's a collection of two protocols). Not the suite of protocols commonly known as the "Internet protocol suite" or the "TCP/IP protocol suite" named after the first two protocols in it that were defined.

72 posted on 05/30/2006 9:26:35 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

UDP is included in TCP/IP no matter how much more you want to cry about it. Not only are you boys ignorant but then you always try to lie to cover it all up.


73 posted on 05/30/2006 1:05:46 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
UDP is included in TCP/IP

UDP is included in the suite of protocols sometimes referred to as the TCP/IP protocol suite. It is not part of any one "TCP/IP protocol." If you say you're going communicate via TCP/IP, that means you're using TCP, not UDP. If you say you're going to use the protocol suite, I understand you may be talking about UDP, RTP, etc. (sorry, there's another one for you to look up).

74 posted on 05/30/2006 1:24:00 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
UDP is included in the suite of protocols sometimes referred to as the TCP/IP protocol suite.

No shit Sherlock! LMAO at the ignorance of the open source fanatics. Were you one of the kooks pictured above in the hazmat suits too?

75 posted on 05/30/2006 2:07:23 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
No shit Sherlock!

Right. Protocol suite, not protocol, as you said.

76 posted on 05/30/2006 2:14:06 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

TCP/IP includes UDP, time for you to admit the ignorance of your claim it doesn't.


77 posted on 05/30/2006 2:34:26 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
TCP/IP includes UDP

TCP/IP is TCP/IP, not UDP. The Internet protocol suite, a.k.a. TCP/IP protocol suite, includes UDP.

Look, you've shown your stupidity (remember, I promised not to call you ignorant anymore) on computer issues multiple times. You just have no credibility with which to continue this.

78 posted on 05/31/2006 5:38:11 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

At my place of employment, we are getting hardware upgrades in a couple of months. The software that I use runs better on a 64 bit machine. But the 64 bit machine won't run MS apps and Lotus Notes. So I have to have 2 machines sitting on my desk. What a pain! Two monitors, 2 keyboards, 2 mice. What a frigging joke. I am not looking forward to it.


79 posted on 05/31/2006 5:43:02 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver
Caver if you would like a suggestion,

you can run a 64 bit Linux on the box and use qemu to run windows by emulating a 32bit intel processor...
80 posted on 05/31/2006 9:30:27 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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