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WinHEC: Microsoft moving to 64 bit only, says Gates(yet another Vista delay)
IT World Canada ^ | 24 May 2006 | Jeff Jedras and Martyn Williams

Posted on 05/25/2006 7:28:29 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

While the beta 2 of Windows Vista is available, the consumer version of the new OS could be pushed back past the stated January launch date, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said at a news conference in Tokyo.

(Excerpt) Read more at itworldcanada.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bestofgoldeneagle; gates; microsoft; threadjester; vaporware; vista; windows; worstofiggle
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Is anybody surprised at this point? I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with a new president before we end up with a new windows os.
1 posted on 05/25/2006 7:28:31 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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2 posted on 05/25/2006 7:35:10 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
They needed to take a page from Apple and forget about backward compatibility of applications. Provide everyone who buys vista with an XP VM that has access to local disk and be done with it.

At this point they are talking about how building anti-fishing mechanisms into the operating systems is worth the delay. Who the hell does Balmer have in charge of development? Rube Goldberg?
3 posted on 05/25/2006 7:52:16 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: ShadowAce
Microsoft will be shifting its products to 64-bit only beginning later this year, Bill Gates told more than 3,500 attendees at the company’s Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) in Seattle on Tuesday.

Maybe they'd better hold off on that. While i'd appreciate being able to use Windows XP_64, many utilities such as Macromedia Flash have no 64 bit version for either Windows or _nix. That gets to be a real pain in the @$$. i have to go to Konqueor to view flash content in Linux. With my present Windows XP installation (XP_32), i'm fine, but to upgrade to take advantage of my AMD64 processor, i'd be screwed.

4 posted on 05/25/2006 7:56:02 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

All servers I run for customers are Linux or Solaris. Guess what? A 32-bit binary runs with no problems on the 64-bit versions of these OSes.


5 posted on 05/25/2006 8:15:56 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

If they don't allow for the possiblity of the release to slip, why bother publishing a beta?


6 posted on 05/25/2006 8:37:34 AM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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They needed to take a page from Apple and forget about backward compatibility of applications.

LMAO, like the richest man in the world who provides the operating system for ~90% of the workstations and ~70% of the servers shipping these days needs advice from linux hacker "noobie". Sure, he could abandon those users, like Apple and Red Hat have done to their users, but that's when you lose them. I was an Apple devotee at one time (even sold them part time at MicroAge), but when they left me and my 3 Apple II's behind they lost me not only as a vendor of their products, but as a regular customer, along with thousands of others. Good thing I didn't ever switch to NeXT or OS/2 either, as those customers got shafted in the end as well. My advice to you, stick with your hundreds of incompatible versions of linux, and leave windows and its users needs to MS.

7 posted on 05/25/2006 8:50:26 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

No one will ever need 64 bits of address space.


8 posted on 05/25/2006 8:51:43 AM PDT by DungeonMaster
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Speaking of WinHEC, did you see the free software freaks handing out pamphlets on the street that day wearing hazmat suits? Yeah that's real effective at showing you're not the kooks everyone claims you are LOL.


9 posted on 05/25/2006 9:14:42 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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Sure, he could abandon those users, like Apple

How did apple abandon its users you could run OS9 Applications for years after they made the move to X.

10 posted on 05/25/2006 9:21:32 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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I agree, the VM option now that it'll be widely available(via vanderpool and pacifica) they should start cutting ties.

But that is something that their customers ask/demand, and they deserve mention for listening to their customers.


11 posted on 05/25/2006 9:22:06 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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Half,

They also should listen to their owners (stockholders) who have seen the cluster*&$@ MS has made of their desktop over the past 5 years. They peaked in terms of software and business in 2001, 6 years with no major desktop release! Six years in IT is an eternity and when we get it how much of an improvement is it really going to be? Will it, in fact, be worth the 6 year wait?


12 posted on 05/25/2006 9:25:43 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I was going to convert my remaining Windows machines to Linux (perhaps one will be a FreeBSD machine) anyway. I'm having memories of the delays around NT5 (which became Windows 2000 later), reading about this.

Regards, Ivan


13 posted on 05/25/2006 9:26:34 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: N3WBI3

The balancing act is a problem, I won't argue with you there.

I agree that at some point they need to cut their losses, and as I said in my previous post virtualization offers the "convenient out" that they've been looking for.

However, you made the reference to apple.... M$ doesn't need to follow Apple. Apple is *TOO* aggressive with it's policy of shafting it's customers on backward compatibility.

G4 towers which were disabled from booting OS9 are the classic example of Apple's "screw you mr customer" mentality.


14 posted on 05/25/2006 9:28:22 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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To: N3WBI3

ROFL, you're the one that recommended Microsoft quote "take a page from Apple and forget about backward compatibility". Typical circle talk BS from you.


15 posted on 05/25/2006 9:29:03 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: MadIvan

Was going to?

What's stopping you?


16 posted on 05/25/2006 9:30:25 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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I'm waiting for the Dapper Drake release of Ubuntu - it's going to be available next month.

I will keep one Windows machine until Wine runs Star Wars: Empire at War, however.

Regards, Ivan

17 posted on 05/25/2006 9:31:52 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Yes and if you had a clue you would have know I was referring to making sure the native kernel and OS were clean. Half gets it? why was it soo hard for you?

I said that MS should have went with a VM so my versions of Office Whatever could run in a compatibility mode and free the Microsoft developers to clean up what is a very cluttered operating system.

18 posted on 05/25/2006 9:33:23 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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They peaked in terms of software and business in 2001

In your dreams, they announce record income and profits most every quarter. Will this delay hurt them? Maybe, but so far not yet, most users only know they want "Windows" and don't particularly care about whether it's some new version or not.

19 posted on 05/25/2006 9:34:36 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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Half gets it? why was it soo hard for you?

LOL he actually agrees with me, and called out your BS on post 14.

20 posted on 05/25/2006 9:37:10 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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