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North American Union Already Starting to Replace USA
HumanEventsOnline ^ | May 30, 2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 05/30/2006 10:01:14 AM PDT by NapkinUser

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To: calcowgirl

I have seen those tales and they apparently haven't panned out as advertised.

What I have said though is still true the terrorists are not going to risk coming over that border when it is so much surer, safer and comfrontable to do so in several other ways.

Not that I oppose LOOKING for them everywhere. But I speak from a tactical consideration.


321 posted on 06/01/2006 9:54:23 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: calcowgirl

Since when is EXPLAINING something "defending" it? And since when is amending state constitutions to prevent this sort of thing SOOOO unAmerican or difficult? Were the state governments NOT supposed to be the first line of defense against our liberties?


322 posted on 06/01/2006 9:56:50 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Correct what YOU write and leave mine be.


323 posted on 06/01/2006 9:57:33 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: calcowgirl

Like I believe THAT? Lol.


324 posted on 06/01/2006 9:58:33 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: calcowgirl

The 70 million was the largest component of this projection. The others were estimated with the same degree of uncertainty.

It would have been just as accurate to say that Heritage projects BIG numbers which might be larger or smaller.

Certainly any number would be affected by the existence/non-existence of large industrial projects in Mexico such as the port facilities you so adamently oppose. Hence one must make projections about the degree of international cooperation and finance for projects in the developing world. I saw none in this report. Thus, all I can say is it represents a first cut at analyzing the issue.


325 posted on 06/01/2006 10:03:21 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Czar

No one should but much faith in your conclusions based upon what you believe.


326 posted on 06/01/2006 10:05:03 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Czar

It is remarkable that a discussion of terrorist tactics gets under your skin so much. If you can find a person on this or any other site who has supported and defended the War on Terror I will kiss your ass.

But a calm and ENTIRELY warranted opinion of what the terrorists HAVE done and would do if intelligent brings your conclusion that ANY of the bastards are ok with me. What can be more despicable than that?


327 posted on 06/01/2006 10:09:06 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: texastoo

I don't "link" to anything and have explained how it has worked in the past. We know where the 911 terrorists came in from and we have prevented many others from using those routes. That one started in the training camps in Afganistan and went through Iran into Europe and from Europe into the US some came in through Indonesia as well if I am not mistaken. The 911 report explains it. It is likely that documentation and passports were provided by a state Intelligence service possibly Iraq as it had in the first WTC attack.

Since this is the route taken by the only MAJOR attackers on the US I will say this is the MAJOR route.


328 posted on 06/01/2006 10:14:12 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: A. Pole

The American "Empire" is just getting started not declining after centuries of Imperial rule and exhausting warfare as was Rome.

If the Republic is truly in such decline as the pessimists here apparently believe then there will be no resisting the hordes. My opinion is different.


329 posted on 06/01/2006 10:17:44 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I have seen those tales and they apparently haven't panned out as advertised.

Oh, I see. Now, instead of calling everyone liars, you just call them "tales" and "advertisements."

330 posted on 06/02/2006 2:12:45 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Since when is EXPLAINING something "defending" it?

Your explanation included so many apologist remarks it deserved a Barf alert.

331 posted on 06/02/2006 2:13:17 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The 70 million was the largest component of this projection. The others were estimated with the same degree of uncertainty.

All estimates have an element of uncertainty. That's why they are called "estimates."

Certainly any number would be affected by the existence/non-existence of large industrial projects in Mexico such as the port facilities you so adamently oppose.

I have not stated that I oppose any port facilities, in Mexico or elsewhere. And why should we only be considering Mexico? 75% of legal immigrants come from countries other than Mexico. The guest worker program will not be limited only to our southern neighbor.

Thus, all I can say is it represents a first cut at analyzing the issue.

Well, that's certainly an improvement over your first comment. ( "Only ignorant fools believe any of that 100 million crap." ) At this point, all one can say is that it was an estimate of provisions included in a Senate Bill that has since been amended making further discussion of the specifics moot.

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332 posted on 06/02/2006 2:25:40 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I don't "link" to anything and have explained how it has worked in the past.

No you don't have to link to anything, but a link would help make your argument credible which it is not at this time.

You might think about linking to the 911 report as you say it explains it. The 911 report also urges congress and the president to secure our southern border which hasn't been done. It kinda makes one wonder why the 911 report wants the southern border secured if the terrorist are just going to repeat their MAJOR routes. LOL

Supposedly, we have put safeguards in all the MAJOR routes such as screening at airports, taking shoes off, and ID proof at borders.

Since this is the route taken by the only MAJOR attackers on the US I will say this is the MAJOR route.

So I guess we should only be looking for 19 attackers taking the same routes as the last attackers. Brilliant.

333 posted on 06/02/2006 8:34:13 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Smartass; calcowgirl; hedgetrimmer; texastoo
"No one should but much faith in your conclusions based upon what you believe."

Were you absent from English class the day they taught sentence construction?

334 posted on 06/02/2006 1:21:53 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Smartass; calcowgirl; hedgetrimmer; texastoo
"If you can find a person on this or any other site who has supported and defended the War on Terror I will kiss your ass."

What? I have sent this on over to our cryptographic section to see if they might be able to decipher it.

"But a calm and ENTIRELY warranted opinion of what the terrorists HAVE done and would do if intelligent brings your conclusion that ANY of the bastards are ok with me."

You're beginning to babble.

Are you really Professor Irwin Corey? It's the only thing that might make sense here.

335 posted on 06/02/2006 1:28:31 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: calcowgirl

Not every story which gets reported turns out to be what is claims to describe. Surely you have seen many examples of this? These stories were shown to me on much earlier threads where people took exception to my belief that the major border danger is really Canada. I read them with no real skepticism as to their validity. Then nothing has happened so something is wrong with these stories. Where is the followup?

Today's news points up the problem from the North to which I have been referring.


336 posted on 06/03/2006 9:04:36 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: calcowgirl

Apparently you have a problem recognizing objective analysis or just prefer rah-rahing, Yes People.


337 posted on 06/03/2006 9:05:48 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: calcowgirl

Alright I accept that and apologize for calling people "ignorant fools".

However, I still believe anyone accepting that estimate as realistic to be a bit credulous then.


338 posted on 06/03/2006 9:09:40 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Czar

Holy Mackeral there Kingfish that is some serious babble.

It was but a momentary Possession.


339 posted on 06/03/2006 9:11:23 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: texastoo

I am very computer illiterate but don't really like the dueling links which occurs too much for my tastes anyway. Sorry but I prefer arguing with my words and against yours.

Apparently you believe "Major" means "only" but I don't. As regards the use of that route now I suspect the number one goal of the terrorists is the recruitment of "Lily Whites" who can still access through normal international movement.

However, the danger to the North has highlighted by the arrests today.


340 posted on 06/03/2006 9:16:50 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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