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Shifting the Goalposts (Duke, Lacrosse, and the African American Professors)
History News Network ^ | 4/17/2006 | Locomotive Breath

Posted on 06/17/2006 12:52:57 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath

As the presumed “facts” initially associated with the Duke lacrosse case have melted away, those on campus who aggressively condemned the lacrosse players have found themselves in an uncomfortable position. While a few columnists (such as David Brooks and Nicholas Kristof) have revised their opinions in light of the Coleman Committee report and the recently released prosecution documents, no one at Duke has publicly done so. A small minority have ignored the new material, and even leveled new charges against the lacrosse players. But most still condemn the lacrosse players, though now with a focus on issues relating to alcohol—acting as if their earlier critiques, which centered on allegations of the players’ alleged racism or sexism, or insinuations about the likelihood of rape, never occurred. This shifting of the goalposts is at best intellectually dishonest, and at worst shameful.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: academia; duke; dukelax; durham; mexicanbandit
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1 posted on 06/17/2006 12:52:58 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: RecallMoran; Dukie07; Howlin; Perdogg; abb; Enterprise; JLS; Jezebelle; Peach; Ken H; ...

and others who my addled brain can't dredge up at the moment - ping!


2 posted on 06/17/2006 12:57:59 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

My advice to kids going to school at Duck university would be to start looking for alternatives. Durham NC strikes me as a hostile environment.


3 posted on 06/17/2006 1:06:31 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: Locomotive Breath

"Facts? Facts? I'm Mike Nifong, I don' need no steenkin' facts."

4 posted on 06/17/2006 1:18:06 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Yep. Mike Nifong thought this was a "win-win" for him by using this case as leverage in the primaries. Now it is a "lose-lose". Drop the case and the blacks take to the streets, or take it to trial and watch the DA get devoured.


5 posted on 06/17/2006 1:36:09 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: abb; Alia; AntiGuv; AmishDude; Bogeygolfer; BossLady; Brytani; beyondashadow; bwteim; Carling; ...
DukeLax ping!
6 posted on 06/17/2006 2:29:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TommyDale

I vote for B.


7 posted on 06/17/2006 2:42:41 PM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: Locomotive Breath

What's the court hearing this coming week re Reede about?


8 posted on 06/17/2006 2:45:04 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Locomotive Breath
Racist black academics and intellectuals, more commonly known as racial racketeers or race industry moguls, have created Tawanna Brawley all over again. Heh.

Cry wolf too many times, and you end up being eaten by your own lies.

9 posted on 06/17/2006 3:20:08 PM PDT by TheGeezer (I.will.never.vote.for.John.McCain.)
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To: Carolinamom
I'm not sure. This is from a June 7 article. I don't understand the whole "settings" thing.

Lacrosse player's lawyers seek more papers from Nifong

Every indicted felony defendant is given three "settings" as part of Durham's case-management system. Cases generally are not resolved until the third setting, which may not occur until many months after the first one.

Although Finnerty will not be present on June 22, lawyers Cotter and Smith indicated Wednesday they would seek additional information about the rape allegations from District Attorney Mike Nifong on that date.

Nifong already has turned over nearly 1,300 pages of data to defense attorneys.

However, Cotter and Smith said in court paperwork Wednesday that they expected even more information before the case could move forward.

Two other indicted rape suspects still are expected to have preliminary court appearances on June 22: Reade Seligmann and David Forker Evans.


10 posted on 06/17/2006 3:21:37 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath
I don't understand it either, but thanks for the info you posted. I'm learning...to my dismay...about the law in my own state.

Ping me if you find anything else. Thanks in advance.

11 posted on 06/17/2006 3:27:29 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Locomotive Breath

"have found themselves in an uncomfortable position."


I like to see stupid people in an uncomfortable position!


12 posted on 06/17/2006 3:36:55 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Howlin

Thanks so much for the ping!


13 posted on 06/17/2006 3:38:10 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Locomotive Breath

If it didn't happen, it could have. So, they are guilty. What's so difficult about that?


14 posted on 06/17/2006 3:38:47 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Locomotive Breath
Durham, Duke, Nifong and North Carolina "Justice"......have as many bruises and false stories as the sweet little drunken Ho who lied...

The Lacrosse team should rightfully OWN, much of Durham and Duke after this.....

The Ho doesn't have ANYTHING of value to take from her --- she's given it away or sold it.

Semper Fi
15 posted on 06/17/2006 4:50:06 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Carolinamom
I'm learning...to my dismay...about the law in my own state.

Me too. Scary, isn't it?

16 posted on 06/17/2006 5:17:00 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: Locomotive Breath

A small minority have ignored the new material, and even leveled new charges against the lacrosse players.
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Like what?

I have a vague vague memory of the students around '85 being called "stupid" by someone on the faculty. There was the complaint that all we were interested in was finishing college and making money and not having any intellectual curiosity. If you're not condemning the US and having angst over race, sex, or income level you are an idiot. These lacrosse players piss these guys off because they haven't obviously drunk the Kool-aid.


17 posted on 06/17/2006 8:35:03 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: Locomotive Breath
If you all want a good laugh, catch Pam Bondi on the Fox Lineup at midnight eastern (in about 10 minutes).

Rough quote from Bondi (in a whiney, plaintive voice) "We KNOW he made mistakes, but come on, let's be professional in our comments about him."

Have your barf bag handy-- you've been warned.

18 posted on 06/17/2006 8:48:49 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Howlin

Thanx, Howlin.


19 posted on 06/18/2006 4:17:45 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Locomotive Breath
A fascinating blog which purports to lean, instrinsically, neither to the left, the right but is contingent upon serendipity. :)

The entire blog entry is a worthwhile read, IME.

Was out pontooning and fishing all day yesterday. Had read a line in a book the night before which kept ringing through my head:

A victim is a victimizer without the weaponrySince the 60s, minorities and females have been granted special license to victimize others. This has played out at colleges as well as via the MSM. Houston Baker (et al) is an ass.

But he plays what all those "especially armed" play -- pretending to be victims while bludgeoning the crap out of others - especially those who have not been "granted" special rights.

It is TIME to do away with "special rights". And long past time for those who were NEVER victims in the past to pretend to play at being ones while they bludgeon the hell out of others by using all these nifty rhetorical spins.

The Duke Boys do not have "special rights". And these bigots running around wearing the "sainted robes" of bullcrap "victimhood" need full exposure as to the pointy hoods they wear while burning crosses upon the psyche of America.

I despise bigots. NO matter what hood they wear.

No one should have "special rights" under the laws of America. It is time to end these.

20 posted on 06/18/2006 4:28:08 AM PDT by Alia
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