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Need some help setting up wireless network

Posted on 07/02/2006 10:57:22 AM PDT by GB

Brother Freepers, after eight years online at home (joined this place about the same time), all on dial-up, we're finally getting into the 21st century and going broadband with cable Internet.

I got a great online deal which includes a discounted rate for six months, free (after rebates) modem and router and cash back.

The modem and router arrived in only two days, and Comcast is supposed to be out on Wednesday to set this up. I think I could actually set the modem up to the computer, etc., I just don't want to fool with splitting my cable line to get a dedicated line to the modem, so I'm letting them do it (also at a discounted rate).

After we get the Internet working as it's supposed to, I want to set up a wireless network so that other folks in the house can get online as well. Right now, that would only be my wife's laptop. It's a Dell with an internal WLAN card, she's never even been online with it and wants desperately to do so. At some point, once we get a place set up for it in the mell of a hess that is their room, the kids are also going to have their own computer. That may be a few months down the road, though.

Basically, what I'm wanting to do immediately is to give my wife wireless Internet capability in our house. At present, she's not planning to take it out to any hot spots, she'll just be using it in the house. And we want to keep our main desktop ... a new Dell; our old Dell desktop will be the one going to the kids ... wired if possible.

I've done my homework and looked at some online resources and looked at the instruction books, etc., and I'm still not confident in what all is required to do this.

So, I would like to ask some of my Freeper brethren who are more schooled in these things to give me the simplified, A through Z, "Run Spot Run" version of what I need to do here with all the equipment I've mentioned (cable modem, router, my wife's laptop, etc.) to accomplish this.

Thanks in advance for any help.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: router; wireless
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1 posted on 07/02/2006 10:57:23 AM PDT by GB
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To: GB; RosieCotton; ecurbh; Ramius

We've got cable, and a wireless router that serves our neighbor :~)

I'll ping the ones that know more than me about setting it up.

BTW... you won't regret cable. It's blazing fast :~)


2 posted on 07/02/2006 11:01:31 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: GB

Why do you need a wireless network if you're going through cable? If you have your house for cable, you can hook up a computer in each room that has a connection. True you may be out a modem but build slowly. Wireless is pretty much straight forward. To set up a wireless network without the neighbors tapping in you are going to have to read the directions.


3 posted on 07/02/2006 11:07:11 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

http://www.komando.com/


4 posted on 07/02/2006 11:09:47 AM PDT by toomanylaws
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To: BipolarBob

We only have one cable connection in the house. I know we're probably out of the norm there as well, but we don't exactly have the Taj Mahal sizewise and we have one cable-wired TV, in the living room (kids have a TV in their bedroom, but it's only used for DVDs and games). Our computer is in a different room from the cable connection and we're inclined to keep it there because it suits our purposes for it to be there. I figure Comcast will split the line and give us another connection there. I just figured wireless would be the best way for my wife to be in another room and on the Internet with her laptop.


5 posted on 07/02/2006 11:13:25 AM PDT by GB
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To: BipolarBob
you can hook up a computer in each room that has a connection

Did you forget that each computer would need a CABLE MODEM?

6 posted on 07/02/2006 11:13:25 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: GB

If you have 2.8 GhZ cordless phones, this can cause problems. They operate on the same frequency as do wireless networks. If the phone rings and you answer it, your network goes down.


7 posted on 07/02/2006 11:18:04 AM PDT by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: BipolarBob

why would want to run cable wire everywhere in the house?


8 posted on 07/02/2006 11:18:11 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: AmericaUnited
True you may be out a modem but build slowly.

This was meant for each computer-internet interface. It's just an option. Not recommending one way or another.

9 posted on 07/02/2006 11:18:26 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: marajade
why would want to run cable wire everywhere in the house?

This may be a shocker to you but some newer homes have cable in a lot of rooms. That's just the way they're built.

10 posted on 07/02/2006 11:20:22 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: GB
Does Comcast's router have wireless capability?

If you have a computer set up already that you want to have broadband access, Comcast should run a split to that area. If you want to access via wirreless, the router must be able to do it. Otherwise, you might need something like a Wireless Access Point to plug into their router.

Without all the details about what you have... it's hard to be more specific.

11 posted on 07/02/2006 11:20:49 AM PDT by ken in texas (come fold with us.... team #36120)
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To: BipolarBob

But it doesn't sound like the originator of the post does.


12 posted on 07/02/2006 11:21:15 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: BipolarBob

Unfortunately, I don't exactly have a newer home.


13 posted on 07/02/2006 11:40:06 AM PDT by GB
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To: ken in texas

I have a D-Link WBR-1310 wireless router.


14 posted on 07/02/2006 11:41:47 AM PDT by GB
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To: GB

My house was built in '52 and I think I have a cable connection in 4 rooms. I don't have a need for wireless since I have only one desk top now.

My wife has a lap top but only uses it away from home (she travels frequently on business) Wireless is nice and for your wife's lap top sounds ideal.

Now, I will interject my own question that someone may be able to answer: I haven't had a land line phone in several years and never plan on having one. I wonder if I could get the phone company to come out here and remove their ugly wires leading to my house?


15 posted on 07/02/2006 11:46:38 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: GB
What is your OS. My daughter went off to college with a new Toshiba Laptop. I bought a wireless router and my Windows XP recognized the device and completed the install with little effort on my part except inserting the CD and selecting the standard installation. I already had a USB multiport device for digital camera and printer ports so it took less time then typing this post!

Good Luck

16 posted on 07/02/2006 11:59:48 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Graybeard58
I wonder if I could get the phone company to come out here and remove their ugly wires leading to my house?

You can ask, but there's not much incentive for them to do it, insofar as removal costs them money and gains them nothing. That is, unless you offer to defray the cost of removal, of course. Plus, from their point of view, eventually you'll pass on (sorry) or sell the house or something, and someone else will live there, who may in turn want landline service. At which point, someone will have to pay the cost of running a new wire.

But, you can always ask - just don't get your hopes up ;)

17 posted on 07/02/2006 12:00:33 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (If you're not sure, it was probably sarcasm.)
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To: Young Werther

Windows XP on both the desktop and the laptop. As I said, the laptop has an internal WLAN card.


18 posted on 07/02/2006 12:12:16 PM PDT by GB
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To: GB
I have a D-Link WBR-1310 wireless router.

It looks like that router also has connections for up to 4 wired access points.

I would suggest you first have Comcast get your main computer (with a wired connection to the router) set up first. Then, you can go into the router configuration and establish whatever wireless settings you want. Make sure you change the default password and SSID, turn off SSID broadcast, etc. In addition, for wireless access I suggest you consider using MAC address filtering, so as to allow only specific wireless devices to connect. Encryption is also an option, but I don't know enough about that router or your wife's laptop to recommend a specific choice.

19 posted on 07/02/2006 12:13:48 PM PDT by ken in texas (come fold with us.... team #36120)
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To: GB; toomanylaws
Good link. Specifically: http://www.komando.com/tips/index.aspx?id=1629

A caution is that any security can be breached. How important your security is determines how difficult the configuration will be.

If security isn't a concern (isn't a concern?!), the setup is easy - just hook it up and follow the instructions. You can bring one up in a matter of minutes.

At the least, you should invoke MAC security. When you do that you specify what computers (by virtue of their network cards unique MAC address) can access the network. To do this you first have to figure out your computers MAC address. Open a command window (In XP go to Start | Run | and type cmd
then press enter. At the prompt type getmac and press enter.

The info you get will look something like this:

Physical Address Transport Name



00-A0-B5-IF-FF-29 \Device\Tcpip_{39462C7F-GA0B-4598-BD0A-3D99E3E6F9E3}

What you want is the six-set combination of numbers.

WEP is an improvement, but a bit harder to set up, but worth it if you keep confidential information on the computer you're using to surf the Internet!

Good luck!
20 posted on 07/02/2006 12:27:15 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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