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To: curiosity

This is why your evolution argument is flawed,

Science invokes a natural cause and natural law element to explain evolution and design. How far must one travel back in time to reach the Biblical position of a "beginning".

*Note: Odd dimensional theories do not skip origin.*

Which beginning is it? Evolution's beginning, or Creation's? If you state Creation, then you admit intelligent design explaining a nature of the universe.


364 posted on 07/23/2006 7:30:46 PM PDT by A0ri
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To: A0ri

It is becoming a bit difficult for me to read and respond at the same time. Quite a few variations.


369 posted on 07/23/2006 7:34:58 PM PDT by A0ri
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Science invokes a natural cause and natural law element to explain evolution and design. How far must one travel back in time to reach the Biblical position of a "beginning".

However old modern physicists say the universe is. I think it's somewhere around 10 billion years or so.

Which beginning is it? Evolution's beginning, or Creation's?

In what context? The ID people barely talk about the beginning at all. Their arguments are almost exclusively about what happened billions of years after the beginning of life. You know, stuff about bacterial flagella, the cambrian explosion, blood clotting cascades, the immune system, etc, etc, etc.

If you state Creation, then you admit intelligent design explaining a nature of the universe.

For the tenth time, YES. I believe the universe was intelligently designed. At the Big Bang, God set the constants of nature such that a free willed intelligent creature that could know him and love him would eventually arrise through natural processes. That is what I believe. I can't prove it scientifically, but I think it is the most philosophically compelling of the possible alternatives.

However, I reject the notion that complex biological structures were designed. And THAT is what ID, as reflected in its leaders arguments, even according to the dictionary you cited, is all about.

382 posted on 07/23/2006 7:52:48 PM PDT by curiosity
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So if you totally accept the ToE, even that pesky macroevolution, but believe that God started it all, you aren't an evo?

Wrong-o.


570 posted on 07/24/2006 4:32:04 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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