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To: rustbucket
Perhaps you feel the CBF is equated with cretins like Wallace. Feel free.

Feelings have NOTHING to do with it. Wallace and many others like him used the Confederate flag as a symbol of their racist agenda in the 1950s & 60s. David Duke is using it today as part of his 'white power' campaign for much the same reason. These historical facts are not in dispute are they?

Are you going to give up using the Stars and Stripes?

I've already addressed the American flag issue upthread. It doesn't change the racist symbolism of the Confederate flag one iota.

Which flag are you talking about?

I'm talking about the flag white Southerns thrust in the face of blacks to symbolize their opposition to civil rights. You know, the Jim Crow flag. The one the Klan politicians tacked up on Southern statehouses and courthouses in the 1950s, to symbolize their heartfelt belief in maintaining a semblance of racial apartheid in the United States hidden behind the gauze of 'state's rights'.

Money allocated for Confederate soldiers built the court house. Why didn't Bush tear the building down rather than the plaque that indicated where the money came from?

Maybe because the Courthouse was built long before some segragationst democrat decided to tack up another symbol of resistance to black civil rights in the 1950s. That's about the same time other Southern states began incorporating Confederate symbols into and onto 'offical' state property. STAND tells us the folks in power were Klan members, but you'd have us believe otherwise I'm sure.

Mississippi voters prefer the CBF to remain a part of their state flag, but the philosophical descendants of Puritans would prevent them if they could.

I'm sure the AME Baptist church would have a laugh at your comparing them to Puritans. But I guess that's just your way of justifying having to run away from the facts of the matter.

Are you one of those?

You claim to be a Republican, but your views on the Confederate flag are indistinguishable from those of the Southern Independence Party. Are you one of those?

-btw I note you FAILED to answer what message the folks on the other side of that police line were supposed to take away from that encounter with those angy white southerners waving their little confederate flags as they protested against black civil rights. Any ideas?

590 posted on 08/20/2006 7:26:18 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: mac_truck
Wallace and many others like him used the Confederate flag as a symbol of their racist agenda in the 1950s & 60s. David Duke is using it today as part of his 'white power' campaign for much the same reason.

Those sorts of folks might influence weak minded people. Apparently they have convinced you.

I've already addressed the American flag issue upthread. It doesn't change the racist symbolism of the Confederate flag one iota.

Reduced to calling things racist are you? I thought better of you. My mistake.

I'm talking about the flag white Southerns thrust in the face of blacks to symbolize their opposition to civil rights. You know, the Jim Crow flag. The one the Klan politicians tacked up on Southern statehouses and courthouses in the 1950s, to symbolize their heartfelt belief in maintaining a semblance of racial apartheid in the United States hidden behind the gauze of 'state's rights'.

Funny, I seem to remember race riots in the North and fierce opposition to busing. I guess bigots live everywhere. Right, Pot?

Maybe because the Courthouse was built long before some segragationst democrat decided to tack up another symbol of resistance to black civil rights in the 1950s. That's about the same time other Southern states began incorporating Confederate symbols into and onto 'offical' state property. STAND tells us the folks in power were Klan members, but you'd have us believe otherwise I'm sure.

The citizens of Texas voted in 1954 to use the Confederate Pension fund to build the buildings. What right did a politician decide on his own to remove the plaques? The citizens of Texas voted for "The first major structure erected from the State Building Fund shall be known and designated as a memorial to the Texans who served in the Armed Forces of the Confederate States of America, and shall be devoted to the use and occupancy of the Supreme Court…."

You'll be pleased to know that last month a state appeals court gave the go ahead for the plaque law suit by the SCV.

I'm sure the AME Baptist church would have a laugh at your comparing them to Puritans. But I guess that's just your way of justifying having to run away from the facts of the matter.

You avoided my question. Are you one of the Puritan types who want to tell everybody else how imperfect they are and how things should be done the way they want?

You claim to be a Republican, but your views on the Confederate flag are indistinguishable from those of the Southern Independence Party. Are you one of those?

Got one of these, mac?

Guess not. I forgot you were working to undermine the party by trying, however unsuccessfully, to stigmatize a big group of the Republican base.

-btw I note you FAILED to answer what message the folks on the other side of that police line were supposed to take away from that encounter with those angy white southerners waving their little confederate flags as they protested against black civil rights. Any ideas?

Same thing as the blacks who were bused to school in Boston, I imagine.

592 posted on 08/20/2006 9:58:49 PM PDT by rustbucket (Countering bigotry everyday)
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To: mac_truck
You claim to be a Republican, but your views on the Confederate flag are indistinguishable from those of the Southern Independence Party. Are you one of those?

Forgot to answer your question. No, I'm not a member of the Southern Independence Party. Never heard of them.

I will ask if you are Republican or perhaps just a Rino? You might be interested in the following from the 2006 Texas Republican Platform (there was a similar platform section in 2004):

Honoring the Symbols of Our American Heritage

We call upon governmental entities to protect monuments, national parks, waterways, cemeteries, and all other symbols of our American heritage from being altered, removed, or placed under international control. We call for the restoration of the plaques honoring the Confederate Widow's Pension Fund that were illegally removed from the Texas Supreme Court and other state buildings.

593 posted on 08/20/2006 10:52:54 PM PDT by rustbucket (Countering bigotry everyday)
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