Harris said that according to Michael Karr, the mother one day brought the boys into a room when they were living in Atlanta and "in a ceremonial setting she said she might do them harm, might get the devils out of them."
Harris said that he was not sure what the mother meant, but that Michael Karr took his brother to a neighbor's home, and the two were later raised by their grandparents in Alabama.
John Karr's mother was institutionalized, Harris said. She has since died.
Well its all fitting into a pattern now...