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And I think it does have a real cause. It goes back (in my subjective opinion) to the changed child raising practices. For tens of thousands of years, if a child did something wrong, undesirable, the parents spanked him/her. Did anyone think through, WHY?

DING DING DING DING DING...we have a winner. Although I would add that the problem has permeated society to the point where it affects parents who DO properly discipline their kids - at home. However, when immersed in an otherwise permissive environment (gov't school), it reduces the efficacy - kids will often observe the stark contrast in permissiveness, and react accordingly.

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"And I think it does have a real cause. It goes back (in my subjective opinion) to the changed child raising practices. For tens of thousands of years, if a child did something wrong, undesirable, the parents spanked him/her. Did anyone think through, WHY?"

......Although I would add that the problem has permeated society to the point where it affects parents who DO properly discipline their kids - at home. However, when immersed in an otherwise permissive environment (gov't school), it reduces the efficacy - kids will often observe the stark contrast in permissiveness, and react accordingly.

I agree. Still, if the first (most important) six years of a kid's life the parents suppress the instictual behavior, the permissive school can counter-act it to a certain level, but couldn't totally ruin the kid(s). The real tragedy, that all developed countries accepted this new "don't use anything physical" method of child raising, totally overlooking the reason why it was like this for eons. I am totally puzzled, how come medical science don't ask the question:"how come ADHD didn't exist before?". It is not a virus, not a bacteria, so what could it be? Obviously some societal phenomenon. But what is it? I am puzzled that such obvious questions don't even come up, let alone researched and answered.

Gabor