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No Calvinball word-games allowed!
Posted on 09/20/2006 9:51:34 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
BINGO!!! END-RESULT, not a force that makes things happen
That is what I have been saying all along.
You are asserting that a pattern requires a deliberate process.
If it is not "deliberate" then it is random - thank you for supporting my position.
You are simply wrong.
It would not be an evo debate without the Darwinist Victory Dance (tm)
Not sure what you are talking about now - you implied Natural Selection is not deliberate - what is the opposite of deliberate? RANDAM!!!! BINGO WE HAVE A WINNER!
Enough tap-dancing. If Natural Selection is not random please state the pattern, aim, or reason. Natural Selection has no aim and no reason and no pattern. If you want to argue the point - simply explain the aim, reason or pattern. (it "just is" is not a pattern)
Do you not know how to use a thesaurus (some are free and online)? You are now claiming that deliberate is not the opposite of random - do a little research. Accidental is an antonym to deliberate and accidental is a synonym for random - You are flat-out wrong. Check it out for yourself - something you should have done before you made your bogus comment
Wrong - clearly you know little about logic (Darwinist seem to be against logic and philosophy)
A = deliberate
B = accidental
C = random
notA = B
B = C
Therefore
notC = A
I don't think you are going to be able to dig yourself out of this hole - but you are welcome to try. You stated "equivocation fallacy" - explain the fallacy
This is so amazing - you are trying to argue deliberate is not the opposite of random. Do you own a dictionary?
deliberate - purposeful, willful, intentional, premeditated
random - without definite aim, purpose, method, or adherence to a prior arrangement
Dimensio, you are pretty much making a fool out of yourself - in light of the definition, are you going to retract your statement or continue defending an indefensible position?
You are wrong AND you are a spelling nazi (not very popular on Free Republic)
You are attempting to argue based upon false definitions.
So the Dictionary and Thesaurus provide false definitions - what is the source of your supporting evidence - oh wait, you have not provided any evidence.
The pattern has been explained.
That is not true - you have not defined the pattern.
Your rebuttal that a pattern requires design or deliberate intent is false
I never used either of those words in this exchange - you are again making up "facts" as you go along. Deliberate was your word and nobody mention anything about design. You Darwinist Reactionaries are really funny - my position has nothing to do with design. My position is Natural Selection is random (try reading the thread next time) Your position is the dictionary and thesaurus is wrong and Natural Selection is not random (if it is not random than it has a aim, reason, or pattern - Natural Selection does not). Not one Darwinist is willing to try and define this "non-random" pattern. I have made no rebuttal because Darwinist can't answer the question. The best I have heard is a variation on "it just is" - that is not a pattern.
With Darwinism, all things spring forth from the random. I think you really don't understand the underlying philosophy of neo-Darwinism of which you are a defender.
Dimensio says Natural Selection is neither random or deliberate - so what is it? (this should be fun)
Semi-random?
Structured random?
Dimensio, does Natural Selection make the Hawk eat?
Dimensio, does Natural Selection exist outside the mind of man?
Dimensio, in the Natural World, does Natural Selection exist?
Are those the only choices? Don't think so
If you are an Evo - you can say nothing about the creation of matter (evolution does not address this) - but unless you believe in some kind of Creator, it has to be random.
If you are an evo, the structures MUST be random in nature because there is no other method that is compatible with evolution.
If you feel crystal formations are not random - what creates them?
Evolution is random, aimless, purposeless. Natural Selection is part of Evolution therefore Natural Selection is random.
Please answer the question - if it is not random, what makes it happen?
I see you skip all the tough questions - do you allow the people you argue with to do the same?
I am guessing you simply are unable to answer the questions - but I will try again:
Dimensio, does Natural Selection make the Hawk eat?
Dimensio, does Natural Selection exist outside the mind of man?
Dimensio, in the Natural World, does Natural Selection exist?
Hint: the answers are no,no, and no.
Natural Selection does not exist outside the mind of man
OK, please explain the difference between random and non-deliberate.
You certainly do like to tap-dance a lot.
Do you even answer questions?
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No. It is not a dichotomy - it is a bogus loaded question - similar to this:
Is God Santa Claus or Superman.
They are the end result of the interaction of the physical properties of the component molecules.
Were those properties created or did they randomly happen - if you think there is a another answer, please add it - this is not one of you loaded questions. I think you may be in way over you head and you don't even realize it.
balrog666 once again demonstrates he/she/its intellectual limits.
If you don't understand the thread - please don't just troll
I wouldn't dream of it, doggie.
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