A Mathematician's View of Evolution

The Mathematical Intelligencer ^ | Granville Sewell

[Dimensio]

No. It is not a dichotomy - it is a bogus loaded question - similar to this:

Is God Santa Claus or Superman.

Your example question offers a clear implication of a false dichotomy. You have answered my question in the negative, but then offered an analagous question that suggests the affirmative.

Were those properties created or did they randomly happen - if you think there is a another answer, please add it - this is not one of you loaded questions.

I do not know. How could such properties be "created", and what relevance does that have to my question?

[Last Visible Dog]

The two definitions are so incongruous as to make describing "differences" difficult. It would be similar to explaining the difference between shape and smell.

Clearly you don't understand the meanings of the words - have your Mommy buy you a dictionary.

You simply refuse to answer any question.

Let's now rub Dimensio's nose in his own BS:

Random - proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern:

Indeliberate (non-deliberate is not a valid word) - done without care; special planning or deliberation; unintentional.

(definitions from Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006)

Now explain to us all how those two terms are incongruous as you claim.

This should be fun - I wonder what excuse Dimensio will give this time for not being able to answer the question.

[fish hawk]

Only God can make popcorn. You can grow it or pop it but you can't make it. Neither can Darwin.

[Last Visible Dog]

Your example question offers a clear implication of a false dichotomy. You have answered my question in the negative, but then offered an analagous question that suggests the affirmative.

Utter nonsense. Once again you are making stuff up as you go along. Please provide examples because you are not making any sense.

I do not know. How could such properties be "created", and what relevance does that have to my question?

You are not very perceptive. It is the same question as to Natural Selection - was it created or did it happen randomly - which is it? Please feel free to add a third answer but plesse hold your unsupported accusation jibberjabber.

[Last Visible Dog]

As opposed to your little troll show?

Lets see - I am debating a topic related to the thread and you are not.

Now what does that make you????????

Run along little trollie

[balrog666]

I'm going to hang out and record your little dog and troll show.

It'll be instructive for the little ones that if they refuse to learn logic, they will end up arguing just like you.

[Last Visible Dog]

I'm going to hang out and record your little dog and troll show.

Knock yourself out troll.

Remember, I am the one trying to debate the topic of the thread and you are not - what does that make YOU?

It'll be instructive for the little ones that if they refuse to learn logic, they will end up arguing just like you.

What logic - you have present no logic - nothing - just trolling. If you have a issue, state it in an intellectual from - don't just troll.

Please explain to me the logic YOU think I don't understand or just hide under that bridge like a good little troll.

[Last Visible Dog]

Troll - A person who enters unknown forums who bashes and insults forum members with unfounded arguments, or anyone that enters any sort of internet community for the sole purpose of harassing others is often referred to as a troll.

[Tribune7]

I doubt those who are atheists would agree with you that being atheist makes their existence pointless.

Their existence isn't pointless. Their belief system is.

[Tribune7]

. And my point is that any belief is pointless which declares everything to be an accident and that only what can be measured is what exist. . . .Why is this pointless?

Your grandmother dies, your mother dies. They are forgotten. Their essence ceases to be. And you die, and you're forgotten. Everything you've done, everything you've thought, everything you've lived for and everything you've loved is forgotten, eventually, according to your belief system.

IOW, there is no point to your life unless the point is living for the moment -- sex, drugs and rock and roll. Of course, then one wonders why you are arguing religion on Free Republic.

[Tribune7]

Arguing with Balrog is about as pointless as being an atheist.

[Dimensio]

Your grandmother dies, your mother dies. They are forgotten. Their essence ceases to be. And you die, and you're forgotten. Everything you've done, everything you've thought, everything you've lived for and everything you've loved is forgotten, eventually, according to your belief system.

It is actually a lack of a belief system regarding an afterlife that you describe. Moreover, how is it any different for you and your relatives?

IOW, there is no point to your life unless the point is living for the moment -- sex, drugs and rock and roll.

Why would I wish to do such things?

[Tribune7]

Why would I wish to do such things?

So what is the point of your existence?

[Dimensio]

So what is the point of your existence?

Must there be a point?

[balrog666]

Must there be a point?

For them? Yes.

But, of course, it must imaginary or it doesn't count.

[Tribune7]

So what is the point of your existence? . .Must there be a point?

If there is no point it would be pointless.

But I guess we've resolved your question from 621 :-)

[Dimensio]

If there is no point it would be pointless.

I did not state that it is in fact pointless. I asked only if there need be one. Perhaps there is such a need.

[WriteOn]

lol

[ahayes]

And I bet a lot of them think your belief system is pointless!

[ahayes]

Why would I wish to do such things?

It's come to my notice that Christians seem to think that all people ought reasonably to be absolutely solely self-centered. Odd.