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Documents disclose 'shadow government'
World Net Daily ^ | September 26, 2006

Posted on 09/26/2006 11:10:53 PM PDT by mukraker

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To: jonrick46
Congressman presses on 'superstate' plan Asks Bush administration to fully disclose its activities.

Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Ala., chairman of the Subcommittee on Management, Integration and Oversight of the House Committee on Homeland Security, wrote July 11 to Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez requesting detailed disclosure of working groups in the Security and Prosperity Partnership office within his department.

21 posted on 09/27/2006 5:49:55 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: jonrick46
And, have you read the 1000 page document?

What 1000 page document?

22 posted on 09/27/2006 5:50:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: mukraker

Same old crap, different day.


23 posted on 09/27/2006 5:52:37 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Reaganez

You look ridiculous when you won't discuss an issue that affects our sovereignty.


24 posted on 09/27/2006 5:52:38 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Outland

Relax. They'll see it...when a Dem is in the White House. And then forget about it when a Pubbie is back in. And then see it again when a Dem....


25 posted on 09/27/2006 5:53:13 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: conservativecorner
Maybe he's arguing that he's sovereign to be free from BS? Let me summarize for you folks:

Some time ago the CFR published a paper (which it did not endorse--something that Corsi, et al., can't be bothered to tell us because it might hurt book sales) that spoke of a North American Union. A co-author of the paper was some guy named Pastor, who's been speaking and writing of this for years and years.

Corsi, et al., realized that there's money to be made playing on the zenophobic fears of some conservatives (in Corsi's case, by learning from his time spent as a FReeper). So they created a conspiracy-angle. Now, there's no longer a think-tank pondering it, or an egg-head promoting it . . . but an active conspiracy between all branches of government (and most members of it) with this nefarious "outside force." In this fashion, a road project in Dallas/Ft. Worth and an inter-modal trans-shipment facility in Kansas City become much more than infrastructure improvement projects, but a direct assault on Mom, apple pie, and the American way of life.

26 posted on 09/27/2006 6:07:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: mukraker
Tie this document in....

Long live Democracy
In a world in which states jealously guard their sovereignty, the OAS members recognized on September 11 that the rights of citizens of this hemisphere to live in democratic societies were more important than traditional notions of non-interference in the internal affairs of member states.

Read the Inter-American Democratic Charter sheparded into existance by Colin Powell, for details.
27 posted on 09/27/2006 6:42:12 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: 1rudeboy
What's really funny is, if this was a real plan and conspiracy, there wouldn't be a single bit of documentation on it.

But it makes for good book pimping material to the tinfoil brigades.

28 posted on 09/27/2006 6:53:18 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: mukraker
Documents disclose 'shadow government'

Look, it's a North American Union.

29 posted on 09/27/2006 7:54:07 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: COEXERJ145; jonrick46
No what's really funny is that most of the True Believers™ no longer bother even pointing out where the conspiracy lies. They just link to some peripheral documents or articles and say, "see?"

And speaking of documents, anybody have a clue as to the identity of this mysterious 1000 page document? The CFR paper that has everyone tied in knots is 59 pages long, including fluff.

30 posted on 09/27/2006 8:18:00 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: mukraker
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who erroneously believe they are free.

That's good.

31 posted on 09/27/2006 8:52:37 AM PDT by Digger
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To: Outland

"I for one am reading the documents and I've recently read similar documents about the SPP as well.

Those who think that this is a tin foil hat conspiracy theory won't be screaming until the dominoes already start to fall.

The idea, of course, is to place Canada, the US and Mexico on an even economic, security and developmental playing field. To do that, however, will require numerous unsavory changes and many of those are outlined in the SPP documents.

Only the short-sighted do not see the oncoming nightmare."


I'm convinced that as part of the Bush agenda, they are well aware of it's existence, but rather than discuss the pros and cons of the issue itself, their fussing and whining about a "conspiracy" and "tinfoil hats" and the posting of these threads under 'chat', is nothing more than a, very organized attempt to silence any freepers who disagree with Bush, period.


32 posted on 09/27/2006 10:33:05 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08)
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To: 1rudeboy
A co-author of the paper was some guy named Pastor, who's been speaking and writing of this for years and years.

Everything else aside, since you are familiar with Robert Pastor, would you agree that his visions could be fatal to our sovereignty?

33 posted on 09/27/2006 11:51:47 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813

Pastor is a seriously misguided fellow, and should he ever get in a position where his ideas carry any weight, then I'll be the first to move to a bunker in Idaho.


34 posted on 09/27/2006 11:55:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kimberly GG
"...a very organized attempt to silence any freepers who disagree with Bush, period."

One can be conservative and disagree with President Bush. However, since the SPP is a derivative of NAFTA, this goes further back than G.W. and crosses party lines.

35 posted on 09/27/2006 12:28:56 PM PDT by Outland (Socialism IS the enemy.)
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To: Outland
However, since the SPP is a derivative of NAFTA, this goes further back than G.W. and crosses party lines.

Exactly. Some people refuse to believe that we are being sold out by both parties.

36 posted on 09/27/2006 12:52:53 PM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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'Shadow' agency to issue N. American border passes
Mexico, Canada to join U.S. department, government documents show


The Department of Transportation, acting through a Security and Prosperity Partnership "working group," is preparing in 2007 to issue North American biometric border passes to Mexican, Canadian, and U.S. "trusted travelers" according to documents released to WND columnist and author Jerome R. Corsi under a Freedom of Information Act request.

"The FOIA documents show the organizational chart and the composition of a 'shadow Department of Transportation' which includes formal membership from Mexico and Canada's Departments of Transportation," asserts Corsi.  "SPP has in effect created a fully-functioning trilateral Department of Transportation which will dictate policy to Mary Peters as soon as she is confirmed to replace Leon Mineta as U.S. secretary of Transportation."        As WND reported yesterday, the government documents reveal the Bush administration is running a "shadow government" with Mexico and Canada in which the U.S. is crafting a broad range of policy in conjunction with its neighbors to the north and south.

The FOIA documents list the following three administrators from the U.S., Mexico, and Canada as the official contacts for the SPP Transportation Working Group:

Jeffrey N. Shane
Under Secretary for Policy
U.S. Department of Transportation
Phone: 202-366-1815             Jeffrey.Shane@sdit.gov

Kristine Burr
Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy
Transport Canada
Phone 613-998-1880

Aaron Dychter
Deputy Secretary for Transportation
Secretaria de Communicaciones y Transportes
Phone: (52 55) 55595165        adychter@sct.gob.mx 

An SPP document entitled "Traveler Security: Develop and Implement Consistent Outcomes with Compatible Processes for Screening Prior to Departure from a Foreign Port and at the First Port of Entry to North America" says a "single, integrated, global enrollment program for North American trusted travelers" will be implemented "within 36 months." No date is indicated on the SPP document.   "Evidently SPP has decided to erase our internal borders with Mexico and Canada," Corsi told WND. "We have no trilateral treaty voted by two-thirds of the Senate that has authorized North American trusted traveler biometric cards to be issued to the citizens of the U.S., Canada and Mexico. Yet this is exactly what the shadow administrative branch created within the Bush administration under the auspices of an SPP working group is doing."

The documents released to Corsi under the FOIA request reveal a pattern of e-mails that are regularly sent from within the Bush administration executive branch to a wide range of U.S. administrative-branch personnel with e-mail copies sent equally to administrative branch officers in the governments of Mexico and Canada.  "This would be like President Bush putting partitions in the Oval Office," Corsi argued to WND, "so desks could be set up for Canada's Prime Minister Harper and for Mexico's new President Calderon as soon as he takes office."

The SPP.gov website in the Department of Commerce has added a new "Myth vs. Facts" section which documents that the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America is neither a treaty nor a law.  "Where is the constitutional authorization?" Corsi asks WND. "The Bush administration has just decided to restructure the executive branch to include Mexico and Canada without bothering to notify the voting public or the U.S. Congress."  Corsi said the approximately 1,000 pages of SPP documentation received under his FOIA request will be posted "as soon as possible" to the website of the Minuteman Project, of which he is a member.

Minutemen founder Jim Gilchrist "and I plan to publish extensively from these documents," Corsi said, "and we want the readers to be able to see for themselves the original documents that evidence the conclusions we are drawing."  Corsi said the FOIA request has only been partially fulfilled.  "There are hundreds of trilateral meetings and agreements referenced in the documents we have, but most of the substantive documents appear to have been intentionally withheld," Corsi said. "In the next few days, our lawyers will be pressing for an honest FOIA document disclosure by the Bush administration."

37 posted on 09/27/2006 1:16:29 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, geese, algae)
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To: mukraker; hedgetrimmer; Tolerance Sucks Rocks


38 posted on 09/27/2006 1:17:06 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, geese, algae)
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To: Coleus
The following predates the SPP: Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act of 2002. Everyone is on their own with regard to finding the supplementals and amendments.
39 posted on 09/27/2006 1:41:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Reaganez

It's posted so uninformed innocents like you can read the information for yourselves and hopefully wake up to what's going on around you.


40 posted on 09/27/2006 2:09:40 PM PDT by mukraker
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