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Tired of use-less Government intrusion in our everyday lifes? Here's what i Suggest we do about it!
October 13, 2006 | Dean Hiatt

Posted on 10/14/2006 5:21:31 PM PDT by dcrider182

Hi FRPFriends. If you've opened this thread it means that you agree with the topic and you want to know "what can I do about it?" I believe the Government has gotten too out of hand when it comes to everyday, personal issues. And how did it get this far? It started with not having the ability for Line-Item-Veto's.

The Supreame Court has ruled that they feel having the ability to Live-Item-Veto anything is un-Constutional. I ask, on what grounds? It seems to me that ALOT of trash is passed through on these non-related bills, signed by both sides of Government. It needs to stop! An example? The newest Terrorism Bill passed, pertaining to Port security, had an item included that now makes it illegal to do online gaming. Ok, fair enought. But why was that item included in a NATIONAL SECURITY BILL? the 2 are completly un related.

I understand why Gov does NOT want ANYONE to have the athority to have a LIV. None of their non-important personal agenda issues would get passed on their own. So here is what i suggest.

We The People take to the streets. We petition. We get this issue of LIV's put on a ballot and let AMERICAN'S VOTE on the issue. Let the People's voice speak out!

This is going to be a big, BIG task, but it needs to start somewhere. This IS America, and grassroots ideas are what Americans are known for! Any ideas or suggestions? Leave me all the words and ideas you can.

It's time to take some of the FAT out of Big Government!


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1 posted on 10/14/2006 5:21:32 PM PDT by dcrider182
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What's a Live Item Veto--the President gets to veto any item in the budget involving living things?

Is everyone here having a group nervous breakdown over these "We're doomed!" articles being posted?

2 posted on 10/14/2006 5:23:07 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-life)
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Line Item Veto


3 posted on 10/14/2006 5:25:19 PM PDT by dcrider182 (Col. Dean R. Hiatt.. WWII Hero. LC.Cpl. Brad Shuder. 9-11 Hero.. you are both loved and missed)
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Oh--there's the dreaded 'alot'.

You're really a dope. I'd use a live-item-veto on you....


4 posted on 10/14/2006 5:25:47 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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If you've opened this thread it means that you agree with the topic and you want to know "what can I do about it?"

Hello, what? I opened this thread to see what you had to say, not to agree to some kind of contract.

5 posted on 10/14/2006 5:27:12 PM PDT by Jean S
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Congress will use THEIR line item veto and strike that particular provision from the bill, denying the president of the same power. If congress has strong feelings on a particular issue that the president vetoed, they can always overide his veto by a 2/3 majority vote.


6 posted on 10/14/2006 5:27:28 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: dcrider182

Did a moose bite your sister?


7 posted on 10/14/2006 5:29:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Darkwolf377
Nobody's doomed or see's it this way. What Americans are tired of are stupid small laws being passed under the cover of more important laws. Such as what happened yesterday with the Port security bill.

included with the bill was a completely unrelated issue, On line gaming, which is now illegal. Why was a gambling issue tucked into a National security issue? thats why we need to be allowed to have Line-Item-Veto's (LIV)
8 posted on 10/14/2006 5:30:07 PM PDT by dcrider182 (Col. Dean R. Hiatt.. WWII Hero. LC.Cpl. Brad Shuder. 9-11 Hero.. you are both loved and missed)
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Clam down. The live item veto will previal.


9 posted on 10/14/2006 5:30:56 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (The dems. can't have a fool-proof plan. There would be no one left in their base.)
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To: Darkwolf377
What's a Live Item Veto--the President gets to veto any item in the budget involving living things?

"It's Alive! IT'S ALIVE!"


10 posted on 10/14/2006 5:31:27 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Hi FRPFriends. If you've opened this thread it means that you agree with the topic and you want to know "what can I do about it?"

Actually, no ... I opened the thread to see if you were a troll.

By the way, it's Lie, Nitemv, Eto.

11 posted on 10/14/2006 5:32:12 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Cogadh na Sith
"There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb"

But there are two roads that lead FROM the tomb. One leads to eternal life, and the other to eternal destruction. Unfortunately, wide is the road and wide is the gate that leads to destruction and many are they that will find it, but narrow is the road and narrow the gate that leads to eternal life, and few are they that will find it.

12 posted on 10/14/2006 5:34:30 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Yew ahr fulovit. Tha lieyv idum vito Wil dye tha furs dei.


13 posted on 10/14/2006 5:38:46 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: dcrider182

If you want the government's nose out of your everday life, get rid of the New Deal Commerce Clause.


14 posted on 10/14/2006 5:38:51 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Zeroisanumber
LOL!

Some people around here need a humorectomy.

15 posted on 10/14/2006 5:39:51 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-life)
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To: tacticalogic
how?
16 posted on 10/14/2006 5:40:35 PM PDT by dcrider182 (Col. Dean R. Hiatt.. WWII Hero. LC.Cpl. Brad Shuder. 9-11 Hero.. you are both loved and missed)
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How are you planning on getting a LIV?


17 posted on 10/14/2006 5:43:32 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Well as Americans, we can start a law by getting signatures to require our idea onto a ballot. start it that way. but we'd need it to happen all across the us to make it a national idea correct?
18 posted on 10/14/2006 5:48:05 PM PDT by dcrider182 (Col. Dean R. Hiatt.. WWII Hero. LC.Cpl. Brad Shuder. 9-11 Hero.. you are both loved and missed)
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Well as Americans, we can start a law by getting signatures to require our idea onto a ballot. start it that way. but we'd need it to happen all across the us to make it a national idea correct?

There's where it gets a little different. Getting rid of the New Deal Commerce Clause starts not by creating more laws, but giving up some. Everyone has their favorite piece of the New Deal legacy. The first step is to recognize that and start by getting our own house in order. IMHO.

19 posted on 10/14/2006 5:54:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: dcrider182
The statement is correct that possession of the line item veto by Presidents, a power possessed by most Governors, would drastically improve the federal government. (In the right hands, however.)

The article is dead wrong to criticize the Supreme Court for striking down the legislatively-created line item veto. The powers of the President are as granted by the Constitution. Congress has no power to amend the Constitution. (Neither does the Supreme Court, either.)

Therefore, to create the needed line item veto it is necessary to amend the Constitution.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "An Open Letter to President Bollinger"

Please see my most recent new statement on running for Congress, here.

20 posted on 10/14/2006 6:49:18 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Have a look-see. Please get involved.)
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