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Firewalls work with wireless connection?
me ^ | 10-26-06

Posted on 10/26/2006 9:03:49 AM PDT by LouAvul

My niece has a laptop with a wireless modem (or something like that). She does not have the internet.

So she rides around in her car until she finds a house with a wireless modem/internet connection. Then she logs on through their connection.

I have a wireless network. I also have firewalls. Can people hack into my system through my wireless connection?


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: firewall; theft; wifi
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1 posted on 10/26/2006 9:03:49 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

Is your wireless connection secure? Ie: 128 bit WEP encrypted?


2 posted on 10/26/2006 9:06:51 AM PDT by EarthBound (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: LouAvul

Also, what your neice is doing is known as "war driving" and is illegal, as she's stealing other people's connections.


3 posted on 10/26/2006 9:07:52 AM PDT by EarthBound (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: LouAvul

Do you have WEP enabled?


4 posted on 10/26/2006 9:08:24 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (FEAR THE SWEATERVEST!!!)
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To: LouAvul

Your niece is engaged in an illegal activity.

Firewalls will work with wireless connections, but with wireless, you have to actually secure the signal. Enable WPA, or preferably WPA2.


5 posted on 10/26/2006 9:10:18 AM PDT by Terpfen (And in the second year, Nick Saban said "Let there be a franchise quarterback...")
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To: LouAvul
I have a wireless network. I also have firewalls. Can people hack into my system through my wireless connection?

Yes.

But the good news is, you can fix that. Use 128-bit WEP encryption. The generally recommended setup for a home network is to use "Open Authentication" with "Shared Key", which means you will need to enter the same key value into every device connecting to your network. (If you have a wireless printer, you may need to hook it up wired temporariliy to set this key.)

For an additional layer of protection, you should be able restrict the ehternet card MAC addresses allowed on the network. Fire up all the machines at once, and add them to the "allowed" list.

6 posted on 10/26/2006 9:10:42 AM PDT by kevkrom (War is not about proportionality. Knitting is about proportionality. War is about winning.)
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To: LouAvul

We recently started sharing the connection (and cost) with a neighbor. I'm not the computer expert here but my wife had to let him in so the firewall must work for wireless.


7 posted on 10/26/2006 9:11:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: LouAvul
Getting onto other people's wireless routers is illegal in some states now, including Illinois.

People can hack into your system most easily if you are unencrypted, have no software firewall on, and have Windows File and Printer Sharing turned on. Also, if you haven't changed the default password on your router and your router allows wireless connection to the Administration page, then even if you correctly set all the rest, a hacker could very easily change it all to his benefit (save for the Windows-specific items).
8 posted on 10/26/2006 9:12:41 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: kevkrom

I recently installed a wireless router and am only using mac address filtering for security. Is it enough? Seems like it would be since it will only allow mac addresses from my exception list to access the network.

Should I enable encryption as well?

Anyone?


9 posted on 10/26/2006 9:17:38 AM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (Ok, so changing my name was not such a good idea after all...)
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To: LouAvul
Go to this web page...

http://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm

And listen to episodes numbers 10 and 11.

DO NOT use WEP security as everyone is telling you. WEP is NOT SECURE! Use WPA with a looong password.
10 posted on 10/26/2006 9:19:06 AM PDT by MarineBrat (God Bless Tonk!)
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To: Trampled by Lambs
I recently installed a wireless router and am only using mac address filtering for security. Is it enough?

No. A sophisticated hacker can read the MAC addresses being transmitted in the non-encrypted traffic. Should I enable encryption as well?

Abosultely. Even if you didn't care about other people using your network, you don't want everything you send to be "in the clear" for anyone to potentially read. That's anything with a password, credit card, etc.

11 posted on 10/26/2006 9:21:03 AM PDT by kevkrom (War is not about proportionality. Knitting is about proportionality. War is about winning.)
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To: LouAvul
Five things will keep you safe:

1) A hardware firewall (should be part of your wireless router)

2) A software firewall (Windows, Norton, ZoneAlarm, Sygate)

3) Minimum 64-bit WEP encryption (128-bit preferred) set-up in the wireless router

4) Do not share any hard drives

5) Create passwords for all Windows users/accounts

12 posted on 10/26/2006 9:21:08 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Already voted absenteeā€¦.straight Republican ticketā€¦.best choice on the menu.)
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To: Trampled by Lambs
I recently installed a wireless router and am only using mac address filtering for security. Is it enough? Seems like it would be since it will only allow mac addresses from my exception list to access the network.

Your MAC address is included in every single packet you send out over the airwaves, so someone who's sniffing you knows your MAC address immediately.

MAC address filtering will only keep out honest people.

13 posted on 10/26/2006 9:21:33 AM PDT by MarineBrat (God Bless Tonk!)
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To: EarthBound; MikefromOhio; kevkrom

Guys, WEP isn't secure. It's easily hackable within minutes using software that'll do it for you.

Use WPA at a minimum, WPA2 if at all possible.


14 posted on 10/26/2006 9:22:25 AM PDT by Terpfen (And in the second year, Nick Saban said "Let there be a franchise quarterback...")
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To: Terpfen

Oh great.. now I gotta go home and upgrade the router tonight...


15 posted on 10/26/2006 9:23:55 AM PDT by kevkrom (War is not about proportionality. Knitting is about proportionality. War is about winning.)
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To: Terpfen

128-bit encrpyted WEP is easily hacked? This is news to me. Can you post a source?

Thanks


16 posted on 10/26/2006 9:24:22 AM PDT by EarthBound (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Terpfen

128-bit encrypted WEP is easily hacked? This is news to me. Can you post a source?

Thanks


17 posted on 10/26/2006 9:24:36 AM PDT by EarthBound (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: EarthBound
Cracking 128-bit WEP in 15 minutes, courtesy of YouTube.
18 posted on 10/26/2006 9:25:51 AM PDT by Terpfen (And in the second year, Nick Saban said "Let there be a franchise quarterback...")
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To: Terpfen

Well well, thanks for this. Guess I'll be switching my stuff tonight.


19 posted on 10/26/2006 9:28:06 AM PDT by EarthBound (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To everyone reading this thread...

MAC address filtering is useless! SSID hiding, useless. WEP encryption, broken and next to useless. The only way to secure your wireless access point is WPA.

I mentioned listening to two episodes of SecurityNOW! in my other post. I'm also going to recommend episode #13, "Unbreakable WiFi Security."  http://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm

If you take the time to listen to these discussions you will be miles ahead of anyone who might wish to hack you.

20 posted on 10/26/2006 9:28:52 AM PDT by MarineBrat (God Bless Tonk!)
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