And this man never inhaled or romped with an intern either.
Posted on 11/03/2006 11:32:59 AM PST by dogbyte12
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The Rev. Ted Haggard admitted Friday he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from a gay prostitute who claims he was paid for drug-fueled trysts by the former head of the National Association of Evangelicals.
"I bought it for myself but never used it," Haggard told reporters gathered outside his home. "I was tempted, but I never used it."
Haggard, 50, said he never had sex with Mike Jones, a 49-year-old Denver man who raised the allegations this week. Haggard said he received a massage from Jones after being referred to him by a Denver hotel.
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I believe him. Not.
Right up there with "I smoked it but never inhaled."
Hey, at least Haggard didn't try to marry the guy, THEN he really would have been a hypocrite.
:p
"I was tempted, but I never used it."
Liar. You can't be tempted by that which you don't know and is not instinct.
Which is also right up there with "I was for the war before I was against it."
I was defending him yesterday, even if he was guilty. Because I was an idiot and assumed that he would repent and ask for forgiveness.
I did not inhale, and it was a friendly massage between me and a gay hooker is a freaking joke. This is more embarassing than actually admitting it. He is doing the Clinton defense.
Did he lie under oath about it?
The fact that Jones was naked when he gave me my massage is irrelevant.
He is re-ordering it. In specific quantities. So those other times he bought it and just flushed it too. Jimminy Crickets the guy is being a jackass.
It depends on what the meaning of it is.
The I didn't inhale was from the campaign stump though, Clinton wasn't testilying on that one.
I really wasn't paying too much attention to this story until I saw this schtick. Now he's descended into characature, and that's a pretty difficult hole to climb out of.
Of course he bought it but didn't use it, Isn't that what everybody does? I hear it works great taking the rust off of bumpers, maybe that's why he got it.
Obviously Haggard must be a sicko, but at least he aint no dum-ocrat.
When they get caught in their sex acts... they proudly hang on.
Toast...
"Jimminy Crickets the guy is being a jackass."
No kidding. There comes a point when the guy just needs to say, "OK, you got me".
I don't believe him, but you wouldn't believe how many packs of cigarettes I've through away because all of a sudden I felt guilty and pitched them. I probably "quit smoking" at least 100 times. It's not really the same situation but I hear meth is pretty addictive. Regardless, it seems like Haggard and the man whore.
Can someone tell me why this story matters? Is the guy running for office or something? I heard Rush talking a bit about it, but still don't get why MSNBC is making a big deal out it!!
Oh man, that is such a clintonesque answer.
But in his defense, I must say that I have bought a lot of stuff I've never used.
I have a cupboard filled with all manner of canned vegetables that are older than some of my grown children.
I do feel vindicated, as I have been bashing Haggard for years over his attempts to Bush global warming on Bush under the guise of Christianity. ("What Would Jesus Drive", etc)
He is the Pastor of a church of 14,000 and President of the National Association of Evangelicals with 30,000,000 members. He is an important religious figure in this country.
It seems like Haggard and the man whore are both lying.
i am one of those evangelicals he supposedly represents and if either of these two "admissions" is correct.....he should be outa there on all counts. that is appalling. a "massage" by an escort? geesh.
although i really wonder where the word on "this" admission came out. i am suspect.
And this man never inhaled or romped with an intern either.
I opened this because it was the only thread among many that had a headline that did what headlines are supposed to do - tell the reader something about the story rather than the subject.
Screwtape must be laughing his @$$ off, and half a dozen people who looked to this man as an inspiring example of Christ are now sullen, disappointed and lost. We all have our failings. I hope the rest of us are better at admitting them and getting help.
Drugs and sex are two ominous sins. The truth shall set you free.
Yeah but how many gay hookers have you hired to get you the meth and a friendly non sexual massage too? (snark)
...and there's still four more days until the election for secrets to get oozing out of all these slimy closets.
He gave this admission to reporters, a pack of them in front of his house. I say that is pretty good sourcing on the story.
If you spend your life running around with your petard hanging out, somebody's going to step on it.
He spoke to Bush once a week as a counselor and has been strongly involved in getting evangelicals active in conservative politics.
Perhaps "Pastor Ted" can soon come clean with the TRUTH and spare his family, and us, in having this SCANDAL play out over weeks and months... Maybe he could look up the word "scandal" and truly realize the damage being caused by his denials, duplicity, evident hypocracy, and lies...
Did the massage have a "happy ending"?
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit. (Jeremiah 17:5-8 KJV)
This phrase isn't usually my cup of tea, but "Ewwww."
"I bought it for myself but never used it," Haggard told reporters gathered outside his home.Crystal meth!? Crystal meth is not typically a gateway drug like pot or alchohol. You don't just leap from using nothing to suddenly procuring crystal meth. And who procures crystal meth and doesn't do something with it?--I mean maybe he didn't use it himself. Maybe he traded it for sex form someone who genuinely is tempted by crystal meth.
In the case of a petard, they're more likely to spark it up for you.
For some reason this guy never has seemed honest to me...
If this is true it harms the ministry, even though, they like all of us are humans and all have sinned and fallen short. By dang, this is not good for the cause. Reminds me of a minister we had once, that admited an affair he was having. He preached then at the end of the service went all through the confessions.... I was only about 10, but it scared me to death.....
Sounds like the public confession of former evangelist Jimmy Swaggert. He went to motels with prostitutes but he never had sex just looked at them naked. Yeah, right! (sarc)
Let us not forget that we have all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.Pray for Haggard and his family and his congregation. But we really need to butt out and let the Pastor solve this between the people he needs to solve it with ie: His congregation, his wife, his kids, and mostly with his God. At this point he does not sound very repentent. And hopefully it comes, but it's really none of our business.
"He is the Pastor of a church of 14,000 and President of the National Association of Evangelicals with 30,000,000 members."
Not anymore he's not.
Sure. He ordered it more than once, and didn't use it. Yeah...I believe him...no question.
Got a massage, too. A prostate massage, perhaps?
This guy's toast.
I didn't know he was one of them. I wouldn't trust the Christian Greenies any more than I would trust the National Council of Churches.
Wonder what his salary was? A pastor of a church that large has to bring in 150,000.00 or more.......
Too much information...
"Can someone tell me why this story matters? Is the guy running for office or something? I heard Rush talking a bit about it, but still don't get why MSNBC is making a big deal out it!!"
He's not running for office, but I gather that there is some kind of "defense of marriage" proposition on the ballot in Colorado, and Ted Haggard has come out strong in favor of it, so I guess it is politically relevant in Colorado, at least. Another reason it "matters" to a lot of people is that this guy is a heavy hitter in the evangelical world, not just some unknown local pastor; as head of the NAE, etc., he's a powerful guy. There have also been reports that he's pretty tight with the White House, has a lot of access to Bush and/or his advisors, so there's that angle too, I guess.
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