The Day After ...

vanity | 8 November, 2006 | joanie-f

[Kakaze]

" The new congress will be sworn in in early January."

I think we will be attacked hard and fast right after this, they will test our resolve.

I know how most of us here would respond, but how the new gov't will respond I've not a clue. "Dubya" can order a immediate reaction but the follow through will depend on funding and resolve from people without any integrity at all...."Interesting Times"

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

PING!

One possible future for America...

[CWOJackson]

The Day After..."Oh, my head. How much did I drink. I VOTED FOR WHO?"

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

so when the hurting starts
and when the nightmares begin
remember
you can fill up the sky
you don't have to give in
you don't have to give in

never give in
never give in
never give in

--The Cure

[LasVegasMac]

because he set a course that had been thought out, largely, before he assumed power, as much by others as by him

Who are the "others" you refer to?

[glock rocks]

Whew... thank you. (Of course in honesty, I'd already done it... and was just being kind of, um, Jesuit :o)

[Eaker]

Well deserved!

[gogeo]

Excellent post.

How long, do you think, before those who asserted "there's no difference between the two parties" change their minds?

[joanie-f]

Jeff, as we both know, this is probably the only major point of any importance on which we disagree – whether our republic is on the road to ruin, or will regain its former greatness. As always, I pray that your optimism is founded, and that I am wrong.

A Lincoln quote that has been burying itself in the corners of my mind of late, and will not silence itself is:

At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! ... At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time, or die by suicide.’

I believe that our national suicide is a much more viable outcome than ever before. It is just occurring too slowly for most of our countrymen to notice.

As for the Iraq war, I am so sick of the hand-wringers who would turn (and are turning) this war into another Vietnam, forever carping on the number of casualties, as if any war were winnable without incurring significant deaths on the battlefield. Although the loss of nearly 3,000 courageous Americans killed in Iraq is a monumental tragedy, I wonder how many Americans are aware that 19,000 British soldiers lost their lives in one day during World War I's Battle of the Somme.

What does infuriate me about the prosecution of this war is our unwillingness to confront the major source of the ‘insurgency’ – Iran and Syria. Watching more Americans die each day, while knowing that we have yet to seriously attempt to stem the flow of vermin across the borders with Iran and Syria, is maddening.

As always, Jeff, thank you for your incomparable insights, and your unfailing patriot viewpoint.

Continued best, as always, to you and yours, my friend, in these troubling times …

~ joanie

[joanie-f]

Thanks so much for the kind words.

[joanie-f]

... the democrats and others while sitting in a foxhole being sniped at have decided that our commander in chief is not leading right and have now decided to lead themselves by committee. Such thinking WILL result in many more Americans dying than ever died freeing Iraq. We will also find that the democrats have no problem wielding the provisions of the Patriot Act themselves and probably stretching it to enclude their domestic enemies as well.

Well said, Tet.

Thanks for the kind words ... and continued best to you and yours during these troubling times, my friend.

~ joanie

[B4Ranch]

I've been saying over and over that amnesty for illegals will make the U.S. disappear.

That is the goal of our NWO globalist President. When the US Canada and Mexico are joined together they will bring about the formation of the North American Union. The NAU is the North American continental region of the New World Order, that has been quietly talked about for years by CFR members.

To see if they could get the continental economy one one track,Bill Clinton pushed NAFTA , The North American Free Trade Agreement, through Congress. Then George Bush slid CAFTA, the Dominican Republic-Central America-United States Free Trade Agreement, through Congress.

When this Guest Worker Amnesty Plan is passed, Conservatives will become the minority because it will mean that 20 million Democtrat voting immigrants will be added to the polls. Is anyone wondering why I doubt the Conservatives will ever hold the White House again.

Just exactly what the differences are between our two major parties is won't matter one iota because we will be living under a socialist system of government. Neither party is interested in maintaining our national sovereignty. As a matter of fact, both of them are working to disolve it.

A couple more terrorist attacks and we will drop the Constitution to become beholden to the rules set forth in the UN Charter.

How long will this take to happen? My guess is less than six years for everything to be put in place. Will American patriots revolt? Maybe, but if the economy is doing well they won't have any support.

Keep praying that I am wrong, would you?

[editor-surveyor]

"The majority of Americans cannot continue to accept, at face value, leadership which says what we want to hear, and then proceeds to do as they wish (which, in the case of the current, and now future, leftist leadership on the Hill, requires the eventual subjugation of American citizens to the state, and the eventual subjugation of the American state to globalist governance)."

Joanie, you've hit a silent, in-park bottom of the ninth homer whether you know it or not with that one. That was the issue that turned normally dependable conservative Christian votes over to the dems in sufficient numbers to topple key congressmen. This is the issue that has been hammered heavily in recent months in Christian circles. They're no longer taking the deceptive or ignorant prattle of so-called conservative talksters like Rush, Medved, or Hannity, that are foolishly telling them that it isn't so, and dismissing it as 'conspiracy theory.'

Its going to take a lot to put the egg back together, and I'm beginning to doubt that it can be done while President Bush and his neocons are in office. (Monday I was confident that it was going slide like water of the duck's back)

[blitzgig]

Buck up, FRiend. We're all really disappointed at how bad things went, but it is in the past. Now we should think about what we do for the future. If we think about the future, we'll be a lot less likely to suffer losses like this election.

And nothing that happens now is going to doom the nation forever. All through American history, this country has survived far worse events than a bad midterm cycle. Things change over time. Look at the Dems--when Bush was reelected, they thought the world would end. We don't have to be hysterical like them, we have more common sense. We should just focus on what we can do tommorrow, not on what's in the past. Don't lose sleep over something like this.

[Humidston]

Joanie-f, please add my name to your "small handful of remaining FReepers who share your view." I'd be honored.

I've been at this for close to 50 years now, and I can't recall a time when I ever felt this frustrated.

Today our country is teetering on the brink and the pain I feel in my gut is excruciating. FR is my/our last refuge.

Eaker, thank you for the ping.

[Mo1]

It is just a crying shame and a tragedy that it will have to come at such cost when we had it in our power to avoid it.

It will take us a very long time to recover from what the near future holds for us now

It never had to come to this .. but it did

There is nothing we can do about it now .. what is done is done

Pray and be prepared .. because it's going to get ugly

[B4Ranch]

I think somebody important took it away from him when he was inaugurated. I'll buy you a steak dinner for two if he breaks out and uses his veto pen.

[LasVegasMac]

IMO, it will come from the islamofascists, or it will come from the border, but it will come. When it gets here, I believe there will be some very difficult decisions for each of us. Modern society is only a thin veneer.

I agree that "it" is coming. After yesterday, "it" will be here sooner - but "it" still was coming, regardless of who is / was in power.

Lots of different thought threads on this: The Dems are now in a position where they can't blame GWB for everything from sun spots to bird flu. They are going to have to actually do something, be accountable.

Unfortunately, there are way too many of them (read Dems / Libs) that think, "all we have to do is talk to these folks, reason things out, be civilized - quit invading their country's, bla bla bla."

Those are the ones that concern me the most. The enemy does not operate that way. Of course you first have to recognize that we - the USA - really does have an enemy to worry about.

It is now the Dems turn for policy. I expect the worst, but ya never know.

Just in case, my inventory will soon be increased by a "G" or two. So far, limited to only an "I", and that "I" stands for Ithaca, several variants.

Never felt this way before.

At any rate - only two races left. Man how time flies.

[joanie-f]

You have covered so many points in just a few sentences ... all of them profound ... and none of them with which any rational, informed American can take issue.

Pessimism is sometimes warranted, if we are to make genuine 'progress' (as opposed to the politically opportune lip-service kind). And I am afraid that, today, pessimism and realism are hopelessly intertwined. Modern American patriots have no business wearing rose-colored glasses.

Thank you for the powerful input.

[editor-surveyor]

"12 Million illegals will now become US citizens before the next elections, thereby insuring that there will never be a Republican majority again."

Its 23 million, not 12, and if the dems are foolish enough to do that, the people will turn against them and put the republicans back in for sure. The American people will not accept another amnesty; there will be mass assinations like after the civil war if it happens.