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Mike Shula is Out at Alabama
abc 30/40 ^ | Nov 27 2006 | Jeff Wyatt

Posted on 11/26/2006 11:25:54 PM PST by catholicfreeper

Tuscaloosa - A tumultuous week for Mike Shula is over. ABC 33/40 sports has learned Shula will not be retained as the Alabama head football coach.

We first reported the story just after midnight. The Alabama coaches out on the road recruiting have been summoned back to Tuscaloosa.

After a 10-win season last year, this season was full of disappointments. There were second half letdowns against Arkansas, Florida, Tennessee and Auburn, and a brutal loss at home to Mississippi State. His inability to win games against his Western Division rivals was especially disappointing.

Looking at his overall record in the last 4 years, Shula was 26-and-23, 13-and-19 in the SEC, 1-and-3 against Tennessee and Arkansas, 0-and-4 against LSU and most disturbing, 0-and-4 against Auburn.

Where Alabama goes from here isn't clear. There's been a lot of talk about Steve Spurrier and Nick Saban. There is however no reason to believe either guy will come to Tuscaloosa.

Other names mentioned: Rich Rodriguez, Jim Grobe and Paul Johnson.

Jeff Speegle will be in Tuscaloosa later this morning, and we will continue to follow this story throughout the day.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: alabama; football; sec; shula
Feel so sorry for him . Nice guy. Bad week for Coaches
1 posted on 11/26/2006 11:25:57 PM PST by catholicfreeper
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To: catholicfreeper

ping MikefromOhio;ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard;


2 posted on 11/26/2006 11:28:56 PM PST by catholicfreeper (Geaux Tigers SEC FOOTBALL ROCKS)
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To: catholicfreeper

UAL sinks a bit further. Maybe this time they can hire just one coach this off season.


3 posted on 11/26/2006 11:45:54 PM PST by JLS
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To: catholicfreeper

Cecil Hurt of the the Tuscaloosa News alluded to the fact he was just too darn stubborn to change his staff. He's an upstanding guy, no doubt about it. I feel bad in one sense, but hey he's 4 million richer, just hope his father doesn't trash the University of Alabama for a tough choice they had to make.


4 posted on 11/27/2006 12:24:01 AM PST by NormanTuttle
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To: catholicfreeper

If Saban goes to Alabama and you hear of him getting shot in the scrotiods, I repudiate my culpubiliality as I am insanitary.


5 posted on 11/27/2006 12:31:16 AM PST by Atchafalaya (When you are there thats the best)
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To: catholicfreeper

Tigs looked good last Fri., oh yeah.


6 posted on 11/27/2006 12:34:59 AM PST by Atchafalaya (When you are there thats the best)
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To: catholicfreeper
http://www.al.com/sports/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/sports/116453836895250.xml&coll=3

Looks like a mini groundswell starting for the next UAL coach...
7 posted on 11/27/2006 2:52:08 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: catholicfreeper

"There were second half letdowns against Arkansas, Florida, Tennessee and Auburn, and a brutal loss at home to Mississippi State. His inability to win games against his Western Division rivals was especially disappointing."


And it took OT to beat a 4&8 \ 2&6 Ole Miss team.
IIRC


8 posted on 11/27/2006 3:05:55 AM PST by WKB (Rudy V Hillary= There is no lessor of two liberals.)
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To: Atchafalaya

The Dolphins coach?
Oh please take him away from the fins. Please.


9 posted on 11/27/2006 3:22:19 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: catholicfreeper

When Bama was going through the "revolving coach" period I was very much in favor of Shula becoming their coach. I was willing to give the team a chance to get in shape. However, I want Bama to become the powerhouse they once were in college football (its been too damn long since they were one) and if it means Shula being replaced in order to accomplish this then I'm all for it.


10 posted on 11/27/2006 3:43:20 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: catholicfreeper
Shula's a decent guy and a good coach. But, his play calling was too conservative.

God, I hope they don't hire Spurrier. Anybody but Spurrier.

11 posted on 11/27/2006 4:25:35 AM PST by FReepaholic (Give me ambiguity or give me something else.)
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To: catholicfreeper

Word I am getting through friends at Bama is that THey gave Mike an "OR ELSE" deal -- fire his assisstants or else they fire him. He stayed Loyal to his staff, so the school let him go.


12 posted on 11/27/2006 4:30:23 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: FReepaholic

"...his play calling was too conservative."

I nominate Mike Leach from Texas Tech. I'd like to see the spread offense tried at a school that gets top quality recruits.


13 posted on 11/27/2006 4:30:51 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Atchafalaya

I think Nick Saban has managed to salvage his job in Miami. This move is kind of stunning because I figured Bama would give Shula one more year to turn things around. Everybody, except for Tide fans, alums, and the administration, knew this was a rebuilding year. Likewise, I don't see Darth Visor plunging into that cesspool. Maybe they can talk Gene Stallings or Pat Dye out of retirement...


14 posted on 11/27/2006 5:12:22 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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To: catholicfreeper

Yes it has, but Steve Spurrier has already said he's not interested in another job, he's happy being a Gamecock. Besides, after yesterday's win over Clemson, I'm sure he's a bit more convinced Carolina will be able to compete for the SEC Championship sooner than later.


15 posted on 11/27/2006 5:20:17 AM PST by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: catholicfreeper

From LindysSports.com one week ago:
He is 0-19 when trailing going into the fourth quarter, which means two things: 1) he has not been able to rally his team to any come-from-behind victories, and 2) his teams have trailed going into the fourth quarter 19 times in that span. In four years, good teams don't trail 19 times going into the fourth quarter.


16 posted on 11/27/2006 5:21:40 AM PST by Crawdad (Is this thing on?)
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To: catholicfreeper

"0-and-4 against Auburn"

Nuff said!


17 posted on 11/27/2006 5:25:51 AM PST by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: catholicfreeper

And this is not in "Chat" because . . . . ?


18 posted on 11/27/2006 5:27:21 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: ryan71

I believe it's now 0 and 5 against Auburn. Fear the thumb.


19 posted on 11/27/2006 5:31:40 AM PST by Quilla
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To: kittymyrib
I nominate Mike Leach from Texas Tech. I'd like to see the spread offense tried at a school that gets top quality recruits.

Urban Meyer has been experimenting with it at Florida. He gets roundly castigated for it by Florida fans who insist that SEC defenses are too fast and athletic for "gimmicky" spread offense plays to work.

20 posted on 11/27/2006 5:31:59 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Crawdad

What a small world. LindySports originated (as Lindy's SEC) in the offices I've occupied for 18 years.


21 posted on 11/27/2006 5:39:54 AM PST by Quilla
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To: catholicfreeper

Finebaum gets another scalp. Well, that's probably giving him too much credit but his show, while a guilty pleasure, is less about football and more about football-related politics.

Not to preach, but what Alabama fans can't seem to grasp is that they have the history, the name recognition, the fan base, etc. but since Gene Stallings gave them a final shot of oxygen they have been average at best. I'm not a Buckeye/Buckeye fan but Ohio State has finally put Woody Hayes where he belongs (i.e., in their hearts) and let Tressel run the program the way he sees fit - it's produced one national title and a second to come this year in all likelihood. Alabama should consider doing the same with Bear Bryant, as much as people respect and admire him (including me).

There is a destructive game of "you're not good enough for us" that seems to pervade the fan base (at least the vocal fanbase). Patience isn't an easy thing to learn but after a full decade of false dawns and letdowns one would hope that the fans might be willing to throttle back for at least a year or two.

I ask the same question I always ask of rabid college football fans (of which I am one): if every team is to go 10-2 every year, exactly which teams will provide the opposition for the 10 wins? There are only so many teams willing to be a weekly doormat.


22 posted on 11/27/2006 5:47:21 AM PST by relictele
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To: commish
He stayed Loyal to his staff, so the school let him go.

Which is exactly what the AD and the trustees wanted - Shula out, fans placated and complete deniability since they can claim Shula fell on his sword.

23 posted on 11/27/2006 5:49:15 AM PST by relictele
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To: JCEccles
A Gator fan here.

The problem with the spread is, it is very good when you don't have talent. Florida has some talent but tend to waste plays and never gets into the flow of the game with the Spread.

Sorry, I would not suggest the Spread for 'Bama.
It works for Hawaii, Bo. St and Texas Tech, but sucks for the SEC.
24 posted on 11/27/2006 5:50:40 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman (Don't hate the media. Become the media.)
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To: catholicfreeper

The game of musical coaching chairs continues. Everyone wants a Messiah for a coach, but almost all just end up with a flawed human being.

Coaches aren't the problem. The college game itself is broken. The NCAA doesn't have the backbone to clean up the game, and make the athletes REAL students.

What a sorry and embarrassing spectacle to watch "grown-ups" act like children over the fortunes of their schools on the gridiron, especially under the guise of "intercollegiate" football.

It's a farm system for the NFL.......nothing more, nothing less.


25 posted on 11/27/2006 6:47:55 AM PST by colonel mosby
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To: JLS
Shula had one good season in 4. His team suffered from a severe lack of discipline. He failed to discipline one player for a DUI and others did things they were not disciplined for. The Sports Info Dept. would set up interviews, other meetings and the players just failed to show up, wasting everyone's time and efforts, and Shula did nothing. Shula was too hard headed to change. He was not going to change any of his coaches. He thinks he is another Steve Spurrier and can run the offense and team at the same time. Wrong. There are few head coaches who can run either the D or O and the entire team at the same time. Head Coaches are like company CEO's. They have to hire decent help and let them do their jobs, make the game plans, and come to the coach and finalize the plans. Shula would not hold anyone responsible, even his assistants. He hired an O coordinator who had not been a coach for like 5 years, was in either insurance or a used car salesman or some think like that. While he was a "nice" guy, he was not a head coach for a major football program. What Alabama needs to do after they hire the coach is fire stupid Mal Moore the AD. He is the one who has made several stupid moves and lack of moves. He hired Mike Dubose, Mike Price and Run Fran Run before Shula. So, Moore needs to go also.
26 posted on 11/27/2006 6:54:30 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The US Military Services are THE BEST PEOPLE on the planet. God protect them.)
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To: RetiredArmy

I know all that. If Shula was fired for failing to discipline Simpson at the beginning of this season, I guess I can see that. I am a UF fan so turmoil at UAL is not a big deal to me. But I am very very much interested in Meyer having success at UF because we have had a bit of turnover from Spurrier to Zook to Meyer. UAL needs to stabilize its coaching situation, but I somewhat glad they are failing to do so according to this report.


27 posted on 11/27/2006 7:14:58 AM PST by JLS
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To: kittymyrib
I nominate Mike Leach from Texas Tech. I'd like to see the spread offense tried at a school that gets top quality recruits.

No, you can't have him. 'Sides, Tech is beginning to get top recruits, they currently have two receivers that will probably be top picks in the NFL, and their young QB is going to be the best they've ever had, I believe.

Leave the pirate in Lubbock. It's a perfect fit. He wouldn't fit the Alabama mold, at all.
28 posted on 11/27/2006 8:01:23 AM PST by Texas2step (<><)
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To: catholicfreeper

Shula might be the best that Shalala and Co. can do down in Miami.


29 posted on 11/27/2006 8:02:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: catholicfreeper

Time for Jackie Sherrill?


30 posted on 11/27/2006 8:03:01 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Southaven Mississippi Freeper)
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To: catholicfreeper

I Nick Saban related to the Buffalo Bills' former coach Lou Saban?


31 posted on 11/27/2006 8:03:52 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: MissEdie

Spurrier left UF precisely because it got to the point where the fans expectations every year got to be too high. It would be no different at Bama. At Carolina, the fans are happy just to be where they are, and they will only get better.


32 posted on 11/27/2006 8:04:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: JCEccles

I agree, this isn't the WAC, and I hope Meyer has learned that by now. Leak has done pretty good, but this isn't the kind of offense he excels in. Tebow should be more productive with Urban's offensive style.

What Urban needs to do, is to upgrade our offensive line, with FSU and Miami slipping, UF should clean up in recruiting. And oh, getting a kicker would also be nice.


33 posted on 11/27/2006 8:08:19 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: catholicfreeper

Hmmm...Bama went with Shula over Sylvester Croom years ago. I wonder if they'll reconsider Croom. His record's not that good, 9 and 25 over 3 years, but heck it's Mississippi State.


34 posted on 11/27/2006 12:20:54 PM PST by FReepaholic (Give me ambiguity or give me something else.)
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To: relictele

Can you say Dennis "I'm not leaving" Franchione. Don't give me this crap, about all-in-the-family, they put that to bed in 2001 when they hired man teets francphony, and also Mike "I'm Rollin' Baby" Price IN 2003. Other programs deserve excellence, but so does Alabama, you and others should quit selling the program short. Bill Cury was Ga Tech grad btw, Gene Stallings a Texas A&M grad. So please move onto a subject like who is going to win OSU or USC.


35 posted on 11/27/2006 4:03:52 PM PST by NormanTuttle
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To: NormanTuttle

You have put it better than I could ever hope to: Bama fans think they are better than everyone else and their coaching carousel proves it.

The hatred for Franchione is as pathetic as it is overlong. Sure he lied but at the end of the day he jilted UA for another school - it doesn't matter who - and the egos in and around Tuscaloosa can't accept being second choice.

The flurry of coaches taking their names OUT of consideration today is quite amusing. Media types keep couching it in euphemisms but the bottom line is that a coach might want to deal with the university and the players, but really doesn't want to deal with the fans.

Ohio State had a similar problem and got lucky with Jim Tressel. Still, there are some coaching jobs that have way too much baggage due to the hypercritical fans.


36 posted on 11/28/2006 3:48:54 PM PST by relictele
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To: relictele

Give me a break. The guy franchione, would have walked naked back to college station, he left the team in the middle of the night for goodness sakes.


37 posted on 11/29/2006 2:23:03 AM PST by NormanTuttle
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