[pgkdan]

I used to think that this was tin foil hat stuff but ever since the election and the Bush Administration's steadfast refusal to do anything at all to secure our borders I've been rethinking my position. The 700 mile border fence...the unfunded and now never to be funded border fence...was nothing more than a sop to the masses.

[Kimberly GG]

I wish more people would. The realization hit me when hundreds of thousand of illegals and their supporters were permitted, without a single word or warning by our D.C. leadership, post-9/11 to shut down major cities overwhelming local LE all across the country. When you really stop and think about all that has happened, it is clear that the bipartisan OBL is being supported by Bush and is what is behind all the decisions made. CIR is but the next step. Off the top of my head....

1) The statement "we are doing everything in our power to protect this country" is not true, yet is repeated incessantly, as if it is. Anyone with half a brain knows it.

2) There is absolutely no reason, other than OBL, for our borders to have remain unsecured since 9/11. We have soldiers in theatre who are dying in the WOT, yet their families back home are not protected.

3) The statement "we will fight them over there, so that we do not have to fight them here at home", is also OBL rhetoric, repeated incessantly, and is not true.


4) The statement, "in order to secure our border, we MUST have CIR". This is rhetoric that 'bargains', to put it nicely, border security in exchange for CIR. It is not true, but is a statement repeated incessantly, as if true.

5) Current Immigration Laws are not only NOT being enforced, they are blatantly being broken, even by our own federal government.

6) CIR was pushed repeatedly with no regard whatsoever for how it divided the party in this being a critical election year and at risk to majority.

[RightWhale]

I used to think that this was tin foil hat stuff

On Coast we learned that twenty years ago the military had an airplane that could go from Hawaii to Californian in 15 minutes. When the airplane didn't appear after 20 minutes they began to worry but a call came in, "It's down in Texas--mechanical malfunction."

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I used to think that this was tin foil hat stuff but ever since the election and the Bush Administration's steadfast refusal to do anything at all to secure our borders I've been rethinking my position.

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