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Vanity - Better Choice - Intel or AMD?
jonno ^ | 11-28-06 | Jonno

Posted on 11/28/2006 7:08:02 AM PST by jonno

It's been a long, long time, but I'm back in the market for a new PC. The last time I built a machine (10 years ago 8^) I used an AMD processor, but there were always "issues".

I've been looking over at the Dell site, and they seem to have some very good deals. What is interesting is that the AMD-based machines are a good deal cheaper - and what about that Celeron?

So today I'm looking to tap into the deep pool of Freeper knowledge.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: amd; intel
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To: TChris

Excellent presentation - thanks.


81 posted on 11/28/2006 12:27:44 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: Echo Talon
I would disagree with him on the midrange system. You can buy an AMD Athlon X2 4200+/4400+ for about the same price as the E6300. Athlon motherboards cost less too.

OK, I'm an AMD fan, but the 4200+ seems to be at least a reasonable alternative to the E6300 for the average user, at that price point.

82 posted on 11/28/2006 12:42:32 PM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Echo Talon

I agree...Intel all the way.


83 posted on 11/28/2006 1:11:55 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: TChris
OK, I'm an AMD fan, but the 4200+ seems to be at least a reasonable alternative to the E6300 for the average user, at that price point.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Retail $182.00

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Retail $182.00

To add even more insult to injury the slowest Core 2 Duo in the test, the 1.86GHz E6300 is barely slower than AMD's fastest Athlon 64 X2.

Please look at the first chart and read under it

84 posted on 11/28/2006 8:53:59 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: TChris
PLUS the E6300 IF you choose to overclock WILL Dominate

Look here, E6300 Overclocked benchmarks...

85 posted on 11/28/2006 8:58:27 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: TChris
from Anand 7/26/06

The processor landscape has been changed once more thanks to AMD's extremely aggressive price cuts. The Core 2 Duo E6300 is a better performer than the X2 3800+ but is also more expensive, thankfully for the E6300's sake it is also faster than the 4200+ and the 4600+ in some benchmarks. Overall the E6300 is a better buy, but at stock speeds the advantage isn't nearly as great as the faster Core 2 parts. In many benchmarks the X2 4200+ isn't that far off the E6300's performance, sometimes even outperforming it at virtually the same price. Overclocking changes everything though, as our 2.592GHz E6300 ended up faster than AMD's FX-62($695.99) in almost every single benchmark. If you're not an overclocker, then the Athlon 64 X2 4200+ looks to be a competitive alternative to the Core 2 E6300.

*** I added the $695.99 price tag for the FX-62, thats the current price for it VIA newegg.com

Remember NOW the E6300 and the 4200+ are the same $

The E6300 and E6400 can easily overclock to E6700 and Core 2 Extreme X6800 levels, though the smaller cache does limit performance a bit. That being said, our overclocked E6300 was able to equal and in all cases but one outperform AMD's Athlon 64 FX-62. In fact, in quite a few benchmarks, the overclocked E6300 is essentially out of reach of anything AMD can offer with their current K8 designs. At $182, the value here is tremendous, and if you're willing to overclock the benefits don't get any clearer than that.

Anandtech E6300 conclision/comparison to 4200 etc

86 posted on 11/28/2006 9:26:30 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: TChris
Intel Sampling 45nm Chips
Looks like AMD will be in the passenger seat for some time to come... :(
87 posted on 11/28/2006 9:50:08 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
To add even more insult to injury the slowest Core 2 Duo in the test, the 1.86GHz E6300 is barely slower than AMD's fastest Athlon 64 X2. Please look at the first chart and read under it

OK, I already granted you that the FX line is overpriced. That's given.

The E6300 is barely slower than the FX 62, but it's also barely faster (sometimes) than the equally-priced 64 X2 4200+ (see the next chart after the one you pointed out)

This supports my contention that at or below the E6300 / X2 4200+ price ($182), the Athlon is still a perfectly good choice for a home computer.

...and the Core2 motherboards still cost more.

88 posted on 11/30/2006 1:44:05 PM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Echo Talon
PLUS the E6300 IF you choose to overclock WILL Dominate

Probably so, but I'm guessing that the fellow who asked the original question won't be overclocking his computer. It's irrelevant in this case.

89 posted on 11/30/2006 1:45:18 PM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Echo Talon
If you're not an overclocker, then the Athlon 64 X2 4200+ looks to be a competitive alternative to the Core 2 E6300.

See previous post. He's not an overclocker, so it's moot.

90 posted on 11/30/2006 1:46:20 PM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Echo Talon
Intel Sampling 45nm Chips
Looks like AMD will be in the passenger seat for some time to come... :(

That's entirely possible. But the fact that AMD is there, nipping at Intel's heels and thoroughly embarrasing them from time to time, makes the industry a better place for all of us. :-)

I just wish every industry had the nearly perfect free market competition that the PC industry has going for it!

91 posted on 11/30/2006 1:49:26 PM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: TChris
yep, and AMD's 4x4 might not be to bad "at least" for guys like me(3D apps and video editing) when they get to "true" quad-core and down to 65nm. as 4x4 stands right now the Core2Quad is a better alternative.

But the competition is always good.

92 posted on 11/30/2006 9:44:12 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: TChris
See previous post. He's not an overclocker, so it's moot.

from the article:
thankfully for the E6300's sake it is also faster than the 4200+ and the 4600+ in some benchmarks. Overall the E6300 is a better buy

93 posted on 11/30/2006 9:47:03 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: TChris
..and the Core2 motherboards still cost more.

GIGABYTE GA-945P-S3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945P ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $90.99

I don't think thats very expensive for a motherboard...

PCI Express x16
PCI Express x1 (3)
PCI Slots (3)
Number of DDR2 Slots 4 x 240pin
8 Channel Audio
Gigabit Lan
4 X SATA 3Gb/s
8 X USB 2.0

Not the greatest but if he's NOT going to overclock... its not terribly expensive, and should he choose to it will still allow for some overclocking...

94 posted on 11/30/2006 10:01:10 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: TChris
GIGABYTE GA-965P-S3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $115.99

This one its much more and ISN'T expensive and would suggest this one over the other...

read the customer reviews and see what ram they are using... seems lke some of them are hitting 3GHZ overclock with this board...

DDR2 800
Maximum Memory Supported 8GB
PCI Express x16 (1)
PCI Express x1 (3)
PCI Slots (3)
PATA 1 x ATA100 up to 2 Devices
SATA 3Gb/s (6)
Audio Channels 8 Channels
S/PDIF Out 1x Optical and 1x Coaxial
Audio Ports 6 Ports
Gigabit LAN
8 X USB 2.0

This one is $25 more but it has faster memory and better North and South bridge.

95 posted on 11/30/2006 10:15:05 PM PST by Echo Talon
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