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Mel Gibson to play Polish King?!
Cracow Life ^ | Nov.13.2006

Posted on 12/26/2006 1:57:31 PM PST by lizol

Mel Gibson to play Polish King?!

Reports have emerged that Mel 'Madmax' Gibson has been approached to play King Jan Sobieski in an epic movie about the 1683 Siege of Vienna.

Wroclaw-based producer Mariusz Bielak would like Gibson to both star in and direct the picture, and he is optimistic that the Australian maverick will come on board:

'All the signs show that he is interested in this project and its theme', Bielak was quoted as saying in Polish daily Gazeta Wyborcza. "It's his cup of tea.'

The film, which has a working title of Victoria (The Victory), is being billed as the most lavish Polish film of all time, with predicted costs running to 120 million zl. That's six times more costly than 'Quo Vadis', which currently holds the national record.

The script has already been completed by celebrated screenwriter Cezary Harasimowicz. The writer became transfixed by the material, and he promises heady sub-plots involving spies, intrigue and of course, the oft-chronicled romance between Sobieski and his French Queen:

'Jan III Sobieski was a charismatic figure' Harasimowicz told GW .' He was a great strategist, a phenomenal knight, and to cap it all, head over heels in love with his wife. This is the kind of figure that Mel Gibson played in 'Braveheart'. But this is a less tragic role - Sobieski triumphed.'

Polish talkboards reveal that Mel Gibson is not universally supported as the man who would be king. One site has launched a thread entitled 'SAY NO TO MEL GIBSON AS JAN SOBIESKI!!!! NO!!' Those logging on have wryly voiced their excitement at watching 'the best comedy of the year.'

Although devotees of Polish history see little resemblance between Gibbo and the portly Polish King, realists concur that Gibson is indeed a figure who could make the project a salable quantity. That said, they would prefer to see Gibson stay behind the camera, rather than parade in front of it.

The Siege of Vienna is regarded by historians as a turning point in European History. The Catholic Alliance - led by the Polish King - saw off the Turkish threat to Central Europe.

Shooting is scheduled to begin in Poland in 2008. Watch this space for more info!


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: cinema; islam; janiiisobieski; jansobieski; melgibson; movie; muslim; poland; siegeofvienna; victoria

1 posted on 12/26/2006 1:57:34 PM PST by lizol
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To: sidegunner; outofstyle; quesney; Brad's Gramma; OriginalChristian; Huber; Think free or die; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

2 posted on 12/26/2006 1:58:36 PM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol; mikrofon; xsmommy; Hegewisch Dupa

I'm very, very, very distantly related to a guy who claimed to be Sobieski's grandson (by that loose standard, you're probably related, too).

It's kind of a sore point on the Genealogy boards, I've found.


3 posted on 12/26/2006 2:02:14 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: lizol
I read somewhere that this event--where Christian Europeans managed to defend Vienna from the Muslim Turks--was the origin of croissant. As we know, croissant is shaped like half-moon, the symbol of Islam. I'm not sure if it's true. More likely to be a myth.

In any case, the movie itself would be a big event.

4 posted on 12/26/2006 2:03:14 PM PST by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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To: lizol

The outcome seems too politically incorrect, and too pro-Western for a mainstream Hollywood production.


5 posted on 12/26/2006 2:03:30 PM PST by Aetius
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To: lizol
Sobieski at Vienna


Battle of Vienna


Sobieski Sending Message of Victory to the Pope

6 posted on 12/26/2006 2:03:45 PM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

Mel should direct but not act, with Polish and Austrian unknowns playing the leads, and all dialogue in Polish, German and Turkish.

Knights of the West throwing the Muslim Janissaries of Suleyman the Magnificent back from the gates of Vienna? I'd pay to see that.


7 posted on 12/26/2006 2:04:11 PM PST by Argus
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To: lizol

PLEASE.

Sobieski was a real hero. Don't have a wack job like Gibson play him.


8 posted on 12/26/2006 2:04:56 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Aetius
So is "Apocalypto", being a great movie (I've heard so, I have not seen it myself yet).
9 posted on 12/26/2006 2:06:23 PM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

If this is made, I WILL GO AND SEE IT.

I hope Mel studies up on tossing and catching his mace behing his back, one of King Jan's favorite tricks.


10 posted on 12/26/2006 2:06:36 PM PST by Little Ray
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To: lizol

Mel Gibson is certainly the man to take charge in this project. Let's admit it, he's talented, he got the $$$, he's unPC, and best of all, he's independent from Hollywood.


11 posted on 12/26/2006 2:07:36 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: lizol

Mel Gibson is certainly the man to take charge in this project. Let's admit it, he's talented, he got the $$$, he's unPC, and best of all, he's independent from Hollywood.


12 posted on 12/26/2006 2:07:44 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: martin_fierro

I wonder if Leelee Sobieski will be in the movie?


13 posted on 12/26/2006 2:09:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

lolski


14 posted on 12/26/2006 2:10:10 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: lizol
No!!!!! Not another Gibson association with a period drama!

Makes me speculate about future movies of Mel Gibson...

2009 - Mel Gibson recreates Churchill's book "the River War" in the Sudan, films in current day Sudan, and winds up embroiled in the troubles there - film at 11.

2011 - Mel Gibson, in association with the Chinese Academy of Film, creates a four hour-long motion picture on the Three Kingdoms period of ancient China, with all dialogue in ancient Chinese (to the best ability of scholars hired to create this) and no subtitles for the domestic Chinese version. Chinese audiences are at a loss.

2013 - Mel Gibson, in a made for TV movie, recreates the story of Samson, with or without Delilah, with special attention to slaying thousands with the jawbone of an ass (ox?) and eye gougings.

2017 - Mel Gibson, in a pay-for-internet-distribution only-series, creates his own interpretation of a two-part drama, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" followed up by "How the Neocons Took Over America" with every character in the movie created by CGI animation except for Jimmy Carter, who plays himself, and Mel Gibson, who narrates.

15 posted on 12/26/2006 2:10:50 PM PST by ReveBM
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To: lizol

Good publicity stunt by the director.

All the evidence here is that the producer "approached" Gibson.

Hell, I approached Gibson to donate the the AmishDude fund for benefitting AmishDude. That doesn't mean I'm going to get any money.


16 posted on 12/26/2006 2:12:08 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: martin_fierro; lizol; Charles Henrickson
They should sign this guy for the lead role, he should be old enough by now...
17 posted on 12/26/2006 2:15:44 PM PST by mikrofon ("The Polish Prince")
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To: ReveBM
Have you noticed how his films are become darker and darker in regard to violence. I know the subject material calls for it, but I believe he is going into the abyss.
18 posted on 12/26/2006 2:16:08 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: dfwgator
In fact I'd like to see the charge of the Polish Winged Knights (Husaria) on the Islamists (by Mel Gibson)


19 posted on 12/26/2006 2:17:20 PM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: mware

I think he is on the cutting edge of what might be called mainstream "violence porn", outside of a horror-movie context. He needs to take some time to relax and do something like Kindergarten Cop. For the moment I can't recall the last gentle romance film he was in, can anyone think of any?


20 posted on 12/26/2006 2:18:17 PM PST by ReveBM
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To: Argus
Mel should direct but not act, with Polish and Austrian unknowns playing the leads, and all dialogue in Polish, German and Turkish.

Yes this is key to success, this is why I enjoyed to watch “Apocalipso”. Mel is quite independent from Hollywood, he is the right man to do it.

21 posted on 12/26/2006 2:20:22 PM PST by Lukasz
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To: ReveBM
What Woman Want was tame but I can't think of any others off the top of my head.

He is a brillant director but as you said the his work now is very close to violent porn.

22 posted on 12/26/2006 2:21:21 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: ReveBM

By the way, I am not criticizing a movie about the Siege of Vienna per se, it sounds interesting...it's Mel that is becoming the distraction.


23 posted on 12/26/2006 2:22:10 PM PST by ReveBM
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To: ReveBM

He was in a chick flick six years ago, I believe. Forgot the name of the movie though.


24 posted on 12/26/2006 2:22:46 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: lizol
They should make this film and also make one about Charles Martel, who turned back the Muslim hordes at Tours in 732 (call this movie The Hammer). They should also make a film about Ferdiand the III (call this one El Santo) and the defeat of the last Muslim kingdoms on the Iberian peninsula.

All three films should concentrate on the fact that we didn't go looking for the Muslims to fight them, that they invaded Christian lands and forced the inhabitants to either convert or die. And it should always be emphasized that this conquest included the Holy Lands and all of the "Uma" that borders the Mediterranean. The propaganda that is still being pushed about the Crusades, things like that awful anti-Christian pro-Muslim movie Kingdom of Heaven, is truly obscene.

We've been fighting these monsters for almost 1400 years.  Let's drive them back to their own homeland, the Arabian Peninsula.  They can practice their death cult there to their hearts content and just leave the rest of us alone.
25 posted on 12/26/2006 3:19:41 PM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: lizol
"with predicted costs running to 120 million zl."

Wouldn't Mel alone charge as much ?
26 posted on 12/26/2006 3:28:27 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: MinorityRepublican

"He was in a chick flick six years ago, I believe. Forgot the name of the movie though."





"What women want" Mel isn't very good at humor, but he is excellent in heroic epics.

I would sure look forward to this movie, if he accepts.


27 posted on 12/26/2006 3:36:15 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: paudio
Actually, it's true. During the siege of Vienna, a baker within the city walls heard the sounds of Turkish troops undermining the walls [they'd dig tunnels and/or place gunpowder under a wall section to collapse it]. The baker notified the defenders, who launched a counter mining operation and saved the wall. For his deed, the baker was given the exclusive right to make a product to commemorate his deed - what is now called a croissant - made in the shape of the Turkish [and Islamic] crescent.
28 posted on 12/26/2006 3:48:51 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: dfwgator

If she is, can I get a bit part as her camp bed?


29 posted on 12/26/2006 3:50:01 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Phsstpok

I vote for a film about Hulegu's massacre of the Assasins, and destruction of the Abbasid Caliphate...along with Bagdhad.


30 posted on 12/26/2006 3:52:02 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

Thank you for a richer description of what happened.


31 posted on 12/26/2006 3:58:12 PM PST by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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To: vox_PL

Sobieski had what it takes to fight terrorism.


34 posted on 12/27/2006 3:27:38 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: snippy_about_it

Mel's future may lie in working abroad instead of in the US and Hollywood.


35 posted on 12/27/2006 9:05:39 PM PST by Ciexyz (I highly recommend "Apocalypto" - raves, raves, raves.)
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To: vox_PL

Polish Winged Hussars in action !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eU2BtQpJqk&mode=related&search=


36 posted on 01/04/2007 8:08:05 AM PST by Bartekz
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To: paudio

I have read the same story about croissant. Also, the reason that Vienna has such good coffee was due to all the captured Turkish coffee, that the Austrians grew to love.


37 posted on 01/09/2007 7:15:40 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

It will be a great story how Polish forces defend Europe from muslim domination


38 posted on 05/17/2008 2:58:38 PM PDT by outofspace
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To: lizol
Gibsons movies have a ridiculous amount of violence in them, Braveheart was a gore fest and Apocalypto was pretty much obscene.

Love Mel Gibson movies.

39 posted on 05/17/2008 3:03:58 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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