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How to build the perfect (real) fireplace fire....
Joseph Janney's Virginia (book)
| Dec. 27, 2006
| Ralph Davis
Posted on 12/27/2006 4:12:16 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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This season I just thought I'd share to y'all this method. It really does work well...and wood fireplace fires are so much more interesting than silly boring gas fireplace fires!
To: AnalogReigns
Is there a way to somehow pipe the heat and join to the oil burner furnace heating sytem?
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:18:07 PM PST
by
ImAmericanFirst
(www.gopteamleader.com <--Let's Start Working on 2008 NOW! (Formerly MaineVoter2002))
To: ImAmericanFirst
Probably not. In the old days they did hang pots over the fire though...
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:24:16 PM PST
by
AnalogReigns
(The real question is why do those who make great beer also make great cars?)
To: ImAmericanFirst
Is there a way to somehow pipe the heat and join to the oil burner furnace heating sytem?
I'm not sure I understand your question, but they do sell "fans" for wood burning and gas burning fireplaces. These fans are electric and they typically fit across the bottom of the fireplace opening and blow heat out into the room.
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:25:41 PM PST
by
Jaysun
(I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
To: AnalogReigns
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:25:59 PM PST
by
Brad’s Gramma
(Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
To: AnalogReigns; Gabz
Hey, Gabz! Git over here! :)
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:26:20 PM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: AnalogReigns
It's very simple and requires a minimum of fuss. First you need something to support the wood--NOT modern cast iron "coal grate" log holders, nor the worse iron grates which cause the logs to roll together....these just don't work well making a lasting fire. Old fashioned "andirons" (those things with tall posts, sometimes brass, in front and flat rails a few inches off the fireplace floor extending to the back) or even a couple of bricks will work fine. I repeat, get rid of the typical home's fireplace grate--great fires cannot be made using them.
I've no choice but to use the modern "coal grate" tonight. Where in the hell does one find an andiron anyway? And the bed of ashes was a surprise. I was always taught to clean the ashes away before building a fire.
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:27:43 PM PST
by
Jaysun
(I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
To: AnalogReigns
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:27:48 PM PST
by
MaxMax
(God Bless America)
To: MaxMax
My Father-in-Law one year shoved the entire Christman tree up the flu and lit it. That was the year of the BIG fire.
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:30:46 PM PST
by
DManA
To: AnalogReigns
In the old days they did hang pots over the fire though... You are quite correct. My father built a log cabin (as a hobby I guess) and the fireplace had hinged arms that one could swing out over the fire or towards the floor. One attached pots on them (by their handles) and was able to cook or serve quite handily.
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:32:48 PM PST
by
BipolarBob
(Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
To: ImAmericanFirst
A fireplace insert is about the only way if you dont have the heat ducks built into your fireplace.
Fireplaces are not a good way to heat. To do any heating at all with them you must keep them going 24/7. Expect to use tons of wood if you do.
They do become better with an insert.
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:33:22 PM PST
by
crz
To: AnalogReigns
Thanks fer the glowing advise...My 1776 center chimney,3 fire place colonial remembers all of your procedure very well,but my Vigelent/Vmnt Castings(sp) woodstove has eliminated all the dangers associated with the old time procedure.....Stay warm and thanks for an interesting read...
To: Jaysun
Me too.
And here I just went and bought an expensive new grate!
Dang.
But I notice the old 'grate' which was very low, almost no legs, soldered together out of rebar, made a much warmer fire.
Well, so much for my new grate.
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:34:31 PM PST
by
squarebarb
(send gifts to Gitmo for our guys!)
To: Jaysun
I got a beautiful antique pair of hand-forged iron andirons on ebay a year ago for 13 bucks...
Ebay always has the (cheaper, mostly ornamental) brass kind on there. They will work too though.
A woodstove shop or places that sell fireplace utensils can get real anirons for you. But like I said, they are hard to find, as no one seems to know how to properly make a fire these days.
Key is having the rails the logs sit on straight, not bent, or tilted backwards, like grates usually are, as you don't want the logs to roll together.
To: AnalogReigns
*SIGH* I'd really like a fireplace...but in a house like mine (1906 American Four Square) in "The Great White North" they are totally inefficient.
On a more positive note, I did get my natural gas bill today. After a high of a $317.00 CREDIT when they adjusted my budget plan in July, I finally owe the gas company $37.00 after a five month break. Dang! And I thought new windows and added insulation and weather stripping wouldn't amount to jack. ;)
Fireplaces ARE romantic, and knowing how to build a fire in the outdoors is a skill every Able-Bodied American should have, but unless your home is designed to work around a fireplace, they aren't the smartest use of your energy dollar.
And the best part about being an "Eeeeeeevil Conservative" is CONSERVING resources, is it not? ;)
*Ducking While Others Pelt Me With Rotten Tomatoes* :)
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:35:21 PM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin; AnalogReigns
Traditional andirons work perfectly (even though they are hard to find these days). No, they are not........I found one at the local dump.....
This is great info, but it doesn't do me a bit of good for building a fire in the woodstove :(
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:36:22 PM PST
by
Gabz
(If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
To: patton
take notes my pyro man ;)
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:39:34 PM PST
by
leda
(Life is always what you make it!)
To: Jaysun
You can have a good welder make a set for you. A blacksmith also.
All they are is two good heavy pieces of steel bent up 90 degrees at one end. 6 inch I beam would work fine. The upright end must not be beyond the throat of the firepit.
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:39:36 PM PST
by
crz
To: squarebarb
Me too.
And here I just went and bought an expensive new grate!
Dang.
But I notice the old 'grate' which was very low, almost no legs, soldered together out of rebar, made a much warmer fire.
Well, so much for my new grate.
Cut the legs off man. I looked up a picture of an andiron and cut the legs off of mine in the garage, moments ago. I think it'll work. We'll see.
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:40:10 PM PST
by
Jaysun
(I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
And the best part about being an "Eeeeeeevil Conservative" is CONSERVING resources, is it not? ;) If you own wooded acreage and if you wish it to cleared of tree litter (broken or dead branches/trees) it is conserving to capture that energy source decaying away (and releasing greenhouse gasses in the process). You have the added plus of eliminating a fire hazrd on your property.
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posted on
12/27/2006 4:40:20 PM PST
by
BipolarBob
(Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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