Posted on 01/16/2007 11:28:48 AM PST by keats5
Sometimes O'reilly is a big jackass.
I wonder how he would feel if it was his little girl who was kidnapped?
Its not the "homosexuality".
It, (mind control manipulation of shame and guilt), is the same in any situation where someone, especially a minor, is forced, even just psychologically, into active submission to the demands of their predator-captor.
In this case the sicko liked boys, in others (like the Mormom girl a few years back) the predator likes little girls. The behaviors of the predators and the pschological brutality suffered by the victims is the same, regardless of sexuality.
Of course it is the "homosexuality." because regardless of the propoganda, homosexuality is not what the average parent wants for his child. A girl subjected to the same captivity is tainted goods. For a boy, the stain is deeper.
I think you are right...I think shame does enter in as well. O'Reilly's an ass. Is he suggesting that this poor kid prefered to be abused???? He sounds like NAMBLA!!!!If the poor boy did not leave his abductor, no doubt it was a combination of first thinking that he and his parents would be killed, shame that abused children often feel and no doubt thinking he could never go back...
I'm trying to figure out your point when you say " A girl subjected to the same captivity is tainted goods. For a boy, the stain is deeper."
Okay, when I checked this story on FR a few days ago the word was this guy was a convicted sex offender. Who came up with that?! (Note: I'm not saying he isn't one but apparently he has never been convicted of being one in the past.)
Each has been shamed and people don't forget that. But a girl of that age who has been a "love slave" is not looked upon the way that a boy who has been. The latter has been more humiliated, unmanned so to speak.
There are TWO Michael Devlins; both of which are perverts but the other one was a convicted pervert.
A guy in Utah with the same name who IS a sex offender...but not the same guy.
Ditto on the other replies to you. I think it was on the thread you pinged me to the other day. They tracked down another Michael Devlin but it turned out to be some other guy, same age, in Utah that was convicted for sexual offenses.
The "stain" while manifested in different ways is the same - it is the manipulated creation of guilt and shame egendered into the victim by the predator and the predators actions, in which they achieved the victims cooperation. The predator's sexual preferences of their victims does not change the psychology of what happens to the victim.
Are the resulting coping-problems different? Yes. They are different, mostly by degree.
In general, victims in heterosexual situations have an easier time opening up to others about what happened, and thus make more progress in undoing what happened to them; because the stigma placed on them for the sex implies less "shame", even if their own manipulated feelings of guilt are not any less.
However, in heterosexual-predator situations boys who have passed puberty often fair better than young girls just passed puberty, for the reverse-side of the reason stated above - they often feel less shame than a girl in a similar heterosexual situation; even when they do not feel any less guilty.
In either case, these are, like rape, situations where it is power and control the predator needs and seeks and sex is not for "sex" but part of the means and the ultimate expression of that power and control. The sexual predator is a sexual predator, because of, just like a rapist, their need to control, regardless of sexuality.
Well, the boy might feel like a guy in prison in similar circumstances. He goes along but does not consent. A problem here is that the kid was taken four years ago, before puberty. How is he going to relate to girls since he has been treated more or less like a girl for all that time? People are, of couse, hard to predict. Hopefully this kid's will was never broken despirte all. I know of one ex-military family where mom and dad were barflies and totally feckless. The son became in effect the parent, did well in school. He went into the service himself and became a highranking enlisted, whereas his dad had barely kept his third stripe.
This goes beyond what a parent thinks about homosexuality, this boy was in all likelihood molested. You get a sexual predator who will twist things around to make it seem like it is all your fault and you actually like it, and now they've made you gay. They know that a young boy who would not normally have homosexual relations be mortally humiliated by the fact that he did, even though it is rape. I believe most boys would much rather either die or submit to staying a prisoner than to have the secret out.
Right now there is a serial rapist in Texas that is targeting men, from what I've read, this rapist is not picking men up in gay bars but following them and attacking them. Very few have come forward, LE is concerned that there are many more victims out there but because it is homosexual rape the men will not come forward. Now if a grown man will keep silent think of a young child.
In a childs mind the damage is done, his parents and friends will be disgusted by him and hate him. He's got nowhere to turn, except to the one person who knows the secret.
This is all so sad. What's going to make it harder are all the questions about why Shawn didn't just leave. Poor kid.
Mark to read later
Isn't this the same name as the poster to the family's website with the entry along the lines of "How long are you going to look for your son?"...
This whole case is weird and smells funny...
"Put him down as humanely as possible, just as we would any other dangerous animal."
Agree.
Why should tax dollars support this freak?
No prison is worse than hell. He needs to go there asap.
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