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3-year-old unnerves airline [Girl taken off flight for crying too much]
Telegram.com ^ | 01/21/07 | Dianne Williamson

Posted on 01/22/2007 10:51:57 AM PST by MotleyGirl70

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To: AxelPaulsenJr

I realize the plane can't move until everyone is in their seats. It just seems they could have let the parents walk around holding the child for a few minutes to see if the kid calmed down.


41 posted on 01/22/2007 12:00:19 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

Well we weren't there and probably don't know that the airline in fact didn't give them some time to calm the child. From the sound of the story I would postulate that the child was totally out of control.


42 posted on 01/22/2007 12:03:18 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

Do the parents have some medical condition that made it impossible for one or both to pick the kid up off the floor?

The entire flight was held hostage because these parents couldn't force the kid into a seat. So what if she was screaming?? She could scream just as loud in the seat as on the floor. And if the flight had taken off with her sprawled on the floor, and she had been injured, her parents would have sued. Instead, they got a free flight because they couldn't control a 3 year old. Pretty clever of them.


43 posted on 01/22/2007 12:03:28 PM PST by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: gubamyster

They evidently couldn't do that. They couldn't manage to get her off the floor.


44 posted on 01/22/2007 12:04:57 PM PST by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

I agree, I'd rather sit next to the small child than squeezed into 1/2 of a seat while someone takes up a seat and a half next to me.


45 posted on 01/22/2007 12:06:37 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: SF Republican
I certainly did not mean to insinuate its all about me and my kids

You seem to do a pretty good job at it ...

46 posted on 01/22/2007 12:06:50 PM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

We had the same thing happen with us when our youngest was 2 1/2. We did give him Benedryl before we got on the plan, but it didn't make him sleepy. He screamed for 2 hrs straight. He finally cried himself to sleep on the cabin floor under my seat about 45 minutes before we landed.

Luckily, we had some really great people around us. All of them had "been there and done that".

I think this thread shows the hostility that our society has towards children. It's coated in the niceties of complaining about manners, but it's really about lack of acceptance.

Sometimes, even the best behaved children will act like children.


47 posted on 01/22/2007 12:07:39 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Hoodlum91

*taking notes*


48 posted on 01/22/2007 12:08:20 PM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Kaylee Frye
Whenever I get seated next to a small child I quite often find myself thinking of W. C. Fields. LOL


49 posted on 01/22/2007 12:09:20 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: SF Republican

Some cry more than others, I've found.


50 posted on 01/22/2007 12:10:22 PM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: clamper1797
Well see I think taking children to see their grandparents is just as necessary. In an age where I have to sit next to people in flip flops and shorts, baby's are a pleasure.I still fly in a sports coat.

I am 57 and have crossed the country more times than I can count, the Atlantic 18 or 20 times, plus trips into Africa. Baby's are a part of life and flying has become common, it is not for you to say where they can go.

Until they were 6 or 7 I would never take mine into a fancy restaurant. For years it was pizza, Mexican food and spaghetti restaurants. I didn't want to bother others, but flying is a different matter.

OH and I took my first flight at 3 months, from Houston to Baltimore where dad played for the Colts.

51 posted on 01/22/2007 12:12:16 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: clamper1797

So, according to you, a kid shouldn't be able to see his grandparents until he's what, 10? 12? What's the proper age?


52 posted on 01/22/2007 12:12:42 PM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: gubamyster
It's impossible to know when a 3-year-old is going to go off. It happens. Maybe they could have picked the kid up & walked around to calm them, but it sounds like the stewardess wanted that kid strapped in its seat. Which probably would not have helped calm the kid at all.

I understand that kids can be hard to predict and harder to control, but if he can't get in and be strapped in his seat, he can't fly, (the pilot can't even legally take off) and that is not the fault of the airline. Beyond that, they also have a duty to the rest of the passengers to not allow one to annoy everyone else. If the kid's not going to settle down, better to find that out while the plane is still on the ground than when it's at 30,000 feet.

53 posted on 01/22/2007 12:14:01 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

I fly in shorts because it's more comfortable. Why be cramped in a too-small seat, in a hot, stagnant airplane, AND still be wearing very uncomfortable clothes in the process?


54 posted on 01/22/2007 12:14:44 PM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Aggie Mama
You have to understand that I am not saying that small children don't belong on airplanes. I am saying that parents should TRY to use SOME discretion. Not all people like small children and a constantly crying child can upset the most patient of us.
55 posted on 01/22/2007 12:14:48 PM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: RockinRight

Grandparents can fly, and most don't have to be at work on Monday. :~)


56 posted on 01/22/2007 12:17:04 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: RockinRight

Hyberbole not withstanding ... children 5 and older are usually ok on airplanes


57 posted on 01/22/2007 12:17:15 PM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Grandparents can fly, and most don't have to be at work on Monday

EXACTLY !!!!!

58 posted on 01/22/2007 12:17:59 PM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: Aggie Mama

Many parents don't realize that Benadryl can actually have the opposite effect on babies when they are on airplanes.

I have no idea why. But it is apparently so.

When we flew with our 8 month old to Ireland to visit the grandparents (which according to some on this thread was an unnecessary trip), we didn't give her anything to sleep.

But we put numbing drops in her ears and made sure she sucked on a pacifier during take off and landing.

Unfortunately the parents in front of us with the 6 month old did not. But, with the sounds of the plane, the crying wasn't that bad.


59 posted on 01/22/2007 12:22:03 PM PST by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Baby's are a part of life

So's flatuation but I try not to subject everyone else to it

60 posted on 01/22/2007 12:22:08 PM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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