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North American Union Has Been in the Works All Along
JFPO ^ | February 22, 2007 | Jews For the Preservation of Firearms

Posted on 02/23/2007 3:26:17 AM PST by proudofthesouth

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To: proudofthesouth

No. Not at all.


21 posted on 02/23/2007 5:22:47 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: TomGuy

I was talking long-term. I mean it worked for England and Scotland back in 1707, and it worked for West and East Germany last decade.


22 posted on 02/23/2007 5:25:00 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: sergeantdave

You drove the Tories into Canada, where a generation later they whopped your a$$es$ for you when you tried to "land grab" the north.

Red Kens no buddy of mine. Not everyone who backs gun control is a marxist.


23 posted on 02/23/2007 5:31:34 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Recon Dad

well, thanks for sharing that opinion with me :)


24 posted on 02/23/2007 5:31:57 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: proudofthesouth
I've added two extra layers of foil to my hat and have put on my flame proof pajamas before posting this...

IMHO, second only to the global war on Islamofascism, the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) represents the greatest threat to our country.

Follow this link, download the .pdf file and begin reading on page 23 which is page one of the report.

President Bush is bound and determined to let the illegals overrun our country. Don't take my word for it. Go read the report.

You may also be interested in this article by Phyllis Schlafly titled, CFR's Plan to Integrate the U.S., Mexico and Canada. Excerpt:

The CFR document [see link above] lays "the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America." The "common security perimeter" will require us to "harmonize visa and asylum regulations" with Mexico and Canada, "harmonize entry screening," and "fully share data about the exit and entry of foreign nationals."

This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details.

It has been my opinion all along that, due to the enormity of this project, the elites would not implement it all at once but rather small pieces at a time. Unfortunately, it looks like I may have been right:
This is how the future of North America now promises to be written: not in a sweeping trade agreement on which elections will turn, but by the accretion of hundreds of incremental changes implemented by executive agencies, bureaucracies and regulators. 'We've decided not to recommend any things that would require legislative changes,' says Covais. 'Because we won't get anywhere.'" Source.
There are days when I'm glad to be a geezer. But I truly fear for our kids and grandkids. Between Political Correctness and incrementalism, our country is headed for some dark days indeed.

Flame away if it will make you feel better. Personally, I'm pretty distressed at the road my precious country has been going down to last 40-50 years.

25 posted on 02/23/2007 5:33:48 AM PST by upchuck (Oh, so they have Internet on computers now! ~ H. Simpson)
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To: Vanders9
I was talking long-term. I mean it worked for England and Scotland back in 1707, and it worked for West and East Germany last decade.

Yes, if the import of foreigners was slow enough to allow them to assimilate.

But the flood of 10 million or so a year (plus all their relatives, if the amnesty gets passed) is too many for any culture to assimilate. Even Rome couldn't, and look what happened to that great empire.
26 posted on 02/23/2007 5:33:51 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: upchuck
There are days when I'm glad to be a geezer. But I truly fear for our kids and grandkids. Between Political Correctness and incrementalism, our country is headed for some dark days indeed.

I truly believe the next Presidency will determine the direction or fate of the USA. If we get another open-borders socialistic globalist, our national sovereignty will be nil in a decade, and this country will eventually devolve into a mexico on a larger scale --- with a small, wealthy, uppercrust elite and millions of peons. [Sort of reminiscent of France a couple hundred years ago.]
27 posted on 02/23/2007 5:44:35 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
I truly believe the next Presidency will determine the direction or fate of the USA.

I have thought about that also.

But I wonder if it really matters. These bastards are on the record about implementing this in a slow, reasoned manner. They plan to slip this in behind our backs.

FWIW, I have had enormous respect for Donald Rumsfeld. But now I'm not so sure since he attended the meeting last September. I was really surprised to see his name.

28 posted on 02/23/2007 5:53:08 AM PST by upchuck (Oh, so they have Internet on computers now! ~ H. Simpson)
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To: proudofthesouth
I feel so sorry for future generations. The great country that we grew up in is going to be destroyed.

I've lived in this agony for about twenty years, for that is how long I've known about the coming NWO. Most people took me for a kook when I talked about it. I figure it is too late to do anything about it. The Sheeple sleep.

29 posted on 02/23/2007 6:05:42 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Vanders9
As for gun control, thats a good idea. No reason for private citizens to wander round with assault rifles.

Spoken like a true subject of the crown, rather than a citizen.

30 posted on 02/23/2007 6:06:48 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Vanders9

"Not everyone who backs gun control is a marxist."

You're right, Nazis and fascists favor gun control.


31 posted on 02/23/2007 6:11:35 AM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: TomGuy

Well, just annex Mexico then.


32 posted on 02/23/2007 6:15:12 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: TomGuy
Tinfoil? Let's hope. But if it isn't, we may find out too late.

It is actual policy. I read about it twenty years ago. The basic theory goes something like this: There are limited natural resources that should be shared equally among the nations. It is unfair for the United States to consume the largest portions of the world's natural resources. The prosperity of the United States cannot ever be equaled throughout the rest of the world. To maintain world peace and to be be fair to all people, all Nations must be adjusted to the same prosperity levels. Hence, the United States must be severely reduced in rank. To maintain world peace and economic stability, no nation should enjoy superiority in military strength. This can be remedied by spreading the engineering and manufacturing facilities about the world so that no one nation can be self-sufficient.

That is the gist of the plan. I have watched it mature while my peers have taken me for a wacko. It is probably too late to do anything about it, particularly since the Sheeple bought into the partisan infighting. They don't watch the important issues while they get played against each other on issues that do not preserve this Nation.

33 posted on 02/23/2007 6:15:43 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Vanders9
Not everyone who backs gun control is a marxist.

Everyone who backs gun control has little respect for their fellow citizens. It is far better to assume that the vast majority of citizens are those who shoulder the load of self-governance, and are thus to be trusted. When the government is the only entity that can bear arms, then the people are not in charge. That is a tyranny. Only the illusion of freedom remains for the suckers.

34 posted on 02/23/2007 6:21:21 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Darn right I'm a subject of the crown. Being caught by a stray 5.45 fired by some trigger-happy fellow "citizen", strikes me as the kind of freedom I can well do without.


35 posted on 02/23/2007 6:21:21 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: sergeantdave

"Not everyone who backs gun control is a marxist."

You're right, Nazis and fascists favor gun control.


Not everyone who backs gun control is a marxist, nazi or fascist.


36 posted on 02/23/2007 6:23:17 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: TomGuy

People are in denial about the NWO....but as a Christian it all makes sense that there would be preparation for the Anti-Christ...but whenever I mention it here at Freepers....I get flamed and told to go put my TinFoil on.....alas

It this is for real...then America has had the blinders pulled over her eyes....and we've been set up.


37 posted on 02/23/2007 6:26:10 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Vanders9
Darn right I'm a subject of the crown.

Good little peon.

38 posted on 02/23/2007 6:30:44 AM PST by stevio (Rudy? Don't make me puke.(NRA))
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To: Vanders9
Being caught by a stray 5.45 fired by some trigger-happy fellow "citizen", strikes me as the kind of freedom I can well do without.

You must have a degenerate population. The crazies are in a super-low minority here. I'm 57 years old, and have never seen a shootout in the street. I don't even personally know anyone who has been killed in that manner. On the other hand, I do know people who have been killed by medicine, and drunk drivers. I think you have succumbed to media hype and shudder in fear of something that really doesn't happen very often. True citizens can weigh such minimal risks and decide on freedom and control rather than cowering behind incompetent government "protectors".

Darn right I'm a subject of the crown.

This is why you opinions just don't matter.

39 posted on 02/23/2007 6:30:49 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Everyone who backs gun control has little respect for their fellow citizens. It is far better to assume that the vast majority of citizens are those who shoulder the load of self-governance, and are thus to be trusted. When the government is the only entity that can bear arms, then the people are not in charge. That is a tyranny. Only the illusion of freedom remains for the suckers.


Nonsense! I would expect everyone on this board to handle firearms responsibly, I just have a realistic expectation that accidents happen, and that people go off the rails now and again, and that crooks and muggers are more likely to acquire and use firearms in an environment where they are common. As for this rubbish about not being free because only the government has guns - force is useless unless you can apply it. Do you honestly believe my capacity to demonstrate on the streets is compromised because the army is going to come down and shoot me? And what are you going to use your firearms for? Would you use it to overturn the democratic decisions of the USA, if you thought they were wrong? Dangerous my friend, very dangerous.


40 posted on 02/23/2007 6:43:43 AM PST by Vanders9
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