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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: sodpoodle

>>>The complete passive/aggressive sociopath.>>>

I 'was friends' with a guy like this once. He was nominally handsome, but a complete lackey. That was a turn off to me. He hung on to me even though I made it quite clear that I was not interested in a sexual/relationship way. He was very nice and pleasant to everyone, expressing undying love and devotion to me. He massaged my feet, at my protest. Too bad I was too young and dumb to know how to be firm with him and back him off. It's hard to be "mean" to someone who is being "nice" to you. Wanted to be a savior to me and my two kids, who he had known since birth (we were couple friends, his wife left him). We leaned on each other through our divorce and I guess he just had it in his head that we were to get together. But I always had a feeling. My mother is like "He loves you so much!" and I would just say "No he doesn't". My ex-husband was a loser in a blatant way, so they thought I just wanted a 'bad boy', not a nice guy. But I had such a FEELING.

In this time, I had two break ins. Stole my kid's Sega and games the first time and all thier Disney movies the next. Also stole something that only he knew where it was (I won't say on FR, I WAS in my 20's you know), tearing my bedroom apart in the mean time. 90% of my stuff was wood, so no fingerprints, but I KNOW he did it. He was the only one who knew where it was and it was in a very very secret spot. Too coincidental the money that was hid wasn't found, but THIS was. And he liked THIS particular thing.

Anyway, he ended asking if I needed him to move in with all the break ins, to be safe...

I knew it was him then. He freaking broke in my house to make me feel afraid so I would cling to him. I ended up turning away and he moved to another state after meeting someone while visiting family. Good. Hate that she will have to learn the hard way. But, I know how that 'sweet adoring guy' can turn ugly quick. I don't know that he would have killed me, but after 12 years? Who knows.


1,521 posted on 03/13/2007 6:08:49 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Firm Member: CIO (Chief Information Officer))
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To: Rte66

Great list and breakdown!


1,522 posted on 03/13/2007 6:13:07 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Firm Member: CIO (Chief Information Officer))
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To: Rte66

>>>--Wilma Flintstone >>>

Hey, did they actually get scripts in Wilma Flintstone name??? LOL!


1,523 posted on 03/13/2007 6:13:51 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Firm Member: CIO (Chief Information Officer))
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To: TexKat

>>>Despite claims photographer LARRY BIRKHEAD is the baby's biological father, Walther reveals her late boss told her Stern is Dannielynn's dad.
She adds, "In the beginning she told me she didn't know and then she told me it was Howard." >>>

Ok, so now we all know, Kimmie Walther is an idiot. Of course those who watched the show knew that then. Now it's just official.


1,524 posted on 03/13/2007 6:19:38 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Firm Member: CIO (Chief Information Officer))
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To: Southerngl

It is possible that the most credible speculation on this thread has been offered by those with "life experience".

Character judgement, intuition, instinct, combined with exposure to body language, vocal patterns, eye contact etc., are based on years of human interaction.

IOW wisdom!
(p.s. I believe 99.9% posters & lurkers on this thread are women)


1,525 posted on 03/13/2007 6:20:42 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Official Thread Nanny and former President of the Firm - an empty but prestigious title)
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To: TexKat
"KIMMIE WALTHER, who played a major part in Smith's beloved reality series THE ANNA NICOLE SMITH SHOW, doesn't care what a court-ordered paternity test shows, and insists Stern should get full custody of Anna Nicole's baby girl.
Walther says, "I feel like she should be with Howard because she's been with Howard since the day she was born, Howard was there through the whole pregnancy".

This little baby doesn't have a clue who is taking care of her, and it certainly isn't Howard at this time. The baby is more attached to her "nanny" IMHO.

KIMMIE knows full well that Anna wasn't ever romatically interested in Howard. And the fact that Howard won't even consider taking a DNA is "proof positive" that he never bedded Anna down. Anna wasn't that desperate.

KIMMIE is looking for a job..

sw

1,526 posted on 03/13/2007 6:26:08 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife) (Duncan Hunter 08 "Will you join us"?)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

FWIW, there is kind of a timeline marker I found in my notes where Steines wrote in his blog that he and KE arrived in FL at 1AM on Fri morning.

After that, I don't know about the Bahamas flight with HKS, but we can work from that, anyway.


1,527 posted on 03/13/2007 6:30:12 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: sodpoodle

I thought it was funny that on ShowBiz Tonight they were asking "What life lessons can be learned from the death of Anna Nicole Smith?"

I mean, come on, how many of us didn't know this stuff prior to ANS's death?


1,528 posted on 03/13/2007 6:32:02 AM PDT by pnz1 (Pray for our troops-they need it now more than ever..)
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To: TexKat

Do you remember which of ANS' female assistants sued her for sexual harrassment. Something about ANS raping her? I thought it was Kimmie Walter.


1,529 posted on 03/13/2007 6:33:56 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: Sacajaweau

I know ANS had lipo way back, like 1992-93, but I don't know about any since then.

I do recall the story about Virgie going to see her in the hospital and that ANS didn't remember even seeing her there, but for the life of me, I don't remember when that was.


1,530 posted on 03/13/2007 6:35:29 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Pepper777

His role is likely as a "Professional Witness" in the custody suit. In other words, he was the guardian for another matter which was before another court. He can attest to any "behind the scene" behavior on the part of any party involved in that matter which might effect this matter.


1,531 posted on 03/13/2007 6:35:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: A Citizen Reporter

>>>And now, back to a question. Did you look for a link between Khristine Ershovich and HKS's parents? I noted from one interview that KE said HKS asked her to call his parents first when ANS died.>>>

I'm still confused. Is Khristine Ershovich the shrink? Because on the show she was Anna's neighbor. When did she go from being Anna and HKS's neighbor to being her shrink?


1,532 posted on 03/13/2007 6:38:17 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Firm Member: CIO (Chief Information Officer))
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To: Rte66

No, Virgie said that she was walking around and laughed and told her she looked like a mummy. Maybe, just maybe that's how Frankenstein (the dog) got the name.


1,533 posted on 03/13/2007 6:38:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TexKat
Disregard my previous post. It was a former nanny. I found this archived in a Dallas paper:

"Another interesting figure in Anna Nicole’s Sapphic lore is her former nanny, Maria Antonia Cerrato. The full-time babysitter accused Smith of keeping her as a “love slave.” In 1994, Cerrato was awarded $830,000 in a sexual harassment "

1,534 posted on 03/13/2007 6:39:58 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: stlnative; All
My goodness, I missed out on all of this.

Stlnative, I AM impressed. You are so wise for being so young..

As for the chit-chat that takes place on these threads, it goes on in courtrooms too. IOW's it fills in the gaps between discussions on the case. It's a good thing.

All this talk about spelling errors is as petty as anything I've EVER witnessed on FR. WHO CARES?!!!

I can't spell worth a damn, and use spell check most of the time. Can we all get past this, and commence with the case?

Tomorrow is a big day..everyone. We should all be on board.

sw

1,535 posted on 03/13/2007 6:42:19 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife) (Duncan Hunter 08 "Will you join us"?)
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To: Rte66
Dr. Keith Ablow interviewed Virgie in November 2006. He replayed it right after Anna died, IIRC. The lipo story was in that interview.

I think the "I Hate Mommy" tape was after the interview because I don't think it was mentioned in the interview....That may be WHY Howard made that video to start with....Because Virgie didn't mention it and he thought maybe she just tossed it. Ah ha!! Got'em again!!

1,536 posted on 03/13/2007 6:48:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TennesseeGirl

Here's one - but I don't know the story on why Kimmie and Anna "broke up".


--Maria Antonia Cerrato - former housekeeper, babysitter for ANS in 1992-93 in Houston, whose 1994 $850,000 sexual harassment lawsuit award triggered ANS's bankruptcy filing


1,537 posted on 03/13/2007 6:49:03 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: WestCoastGal

Interesting that Milstein is in the Gay and Lesbian Lawyers Association. This might explain his lengthy hugging with HKS. Some have suggested that HKS is gay. Wasn't there a picture of him marching in a gay pride parade? Though perhaps it was someone who looked like him?


1,538 posted on 03/13/2007 6:50:33 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: spectre
I bet the matter is resolved 15 minutes before court starts. Howard doesn't want to start saying things about how things evolved. They'll go into court with signed papers and it'll only take the judge 10 minutes to read it and have his say. End of Case! Happens every day.

You really think Howard wants to get into the Shane Gibson story and residency thing??

Of course, Howard is pretty good at this blackmailing stuff and has a tape on just about everyone.

1,539 posted on 03/13/2007 6:56:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Southerngl

That's the big question I've been researching. ANS said she was in therapy for a number of years, but I haven't tracked down whether she ever said "who" or where this happened - but I'm still looking.

Then Dr "Kris" appeared as a "neighbor" of ANS's on the TV show. When KE was interviewed in one article, they said they talked to her in her "Studio City" office.

ANS lived in Studio City the last few years in L.A., so I figured that's what that was about as far as "neighbor," tho KE has a Beverly Hills address.

Also, I wondered if she was the shrink that Daniel was seeing, since PI Harding indicated that he was. I doubt it, because of the friendship with ANS. OTOH, I felt that perhaps KE was another "spy" to watch over Daniel in L.A. and report to ANS (meaning this in a motherly way, since he had been left with a guy, an ex of ANS's).

KE never says she was ANS's shrink or Daniel's - but then, she can't legally say that, anyway, so it's a mystery.


1,540 posted on 03/13/2007 6:57:58 AM PDT by Rte66
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