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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: stlnative

Ah...But there was a quart of it in the fridge and the brand new prescription dated August 25th, 2006.


3,361 posted on 03/15/2007 8:58:53 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Post #3183

I think Bridgett would call an IV bag "water"...


3,362 posted on 03/15/2007 9:02:46 PM PDT by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: stlnative

Sir, you said ANS had not taken methadone for five months. The presence of the substance (methadone) in the refrigerator of the house in which she resided makes that statement A LIE.

A recovering chocoholic does not have a case of Hershey bars and a recovering methadone user does not have a large quantity of it in her refrigerator!


3,363 posted on 03/15/2007 9:03:26 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: TexKat

Thanks for the transcript, TexKat. Something is very wrong with Dr Perper's info. We researched that throughly the other day. I think it was on Sunday.

This is terrible. Bonnie Stern is the only one who was saying the temp was 105 on the day she died. Really BAD!!!


3,364 posted on 03/15/2007 9:05:14 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: windchime

I think Anna just had a port. So, in case she needed an IV because of dehydration or meds, the IV line was open. If she was dead already when Tas was attempting to give her fluids, the "water" wouldn't "go in"....no circulation!


3,365 posted on 03/15/2007 9:05:41 PM PDT by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: stlnative

Det. TexKat went on break. Your discomfort, Mr. Stern, is the least of your worries!


This IS fun, isn't it? :)


3,366 posted on 03/15/2007 9:06:27 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: windchime

Well Detective Windchime - was the seal broken on that bottle of Methadone that belonged to Anna?

I believe Anna was on automatic shipment for her prescription drugs. As far as I know she had not taken any in at least 5 months


3,367 posted on 03/15/2007 9:06:57 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; All

Been away from thread for a short respite.

If Attorney Barth/barf the Blonde Drama Queen we saw at the Florida trial?

What show is TMZ? Can't figue out that one.

Why is NG even wasting time with Dr. Simon Say Perper? He has already said many times he cannot discuss the details of her death untill the appointed time.

Any word on where Howard Killer Stern is at the moment?

Any up coming court dates set for any of part of this mess?

Sounds like posters here are hoping Larry B and Gramma get together amicably to care for the baby.

Is that what I am sensing?

And is the fear of HKS cutting a deal with LB still a possiblity.

Did HKS get evicted yet?
Where will he live I wonder?
Wonder if he leaves the baby with the nanny's family and uses that as his address while living else where?


3,368 posted on 03/15/2007 9:07:04 PM PDT by Global2010 ( I am just ole Lab dog with my head stickin' out the window and my ears a flappin' in the wind.htp)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
Seidlein set Howard up in court. Why didn't Howard say "as far as I know" to the Methadone question? He added absolutely no qualifier and the 5 months equates to the time of Daniel's death. That SOB Stern was going to blame Daniel's death on her and convinced her of the same if she said anything.

I think she finally figured it out as Howard "DIRECTED" her as to what she was going to say at the inquest. She was indeed a prisoner in Florida and he had all the cards.

3,369 posted on 03/15/2007 9:07:59 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Arizona Carolyn

And, isn't there a pic of Anna with Moe or Gibson with an IV port in her hand? I bet she got IV therapy, often!


3,370 posted on 03/15/2007 9:09:33 PM PDT by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

" If Bonnie Stern is saying that then someone is lying, because I watche KE on ET this week and she specifically said Monday it was 105 and by Wednesday ANS was feeling much better and she felt confident in leaving her, said ANS cried that she was leaving...."

Somebody is lying, that's for sure. Moe said the 105 temp was earlier in the week. Definitely not on Thursday, the day she died. Perper is screw up or the Sterns have lied to him or someone else is lying. I think she was dead longer than Perper thinks. Probably dead all morning.


3,371 posted on 03/15/2007 9:10:35 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: stlnative

A plant, huh. Well, then there should be no prints of either Howard or Anna on the bottle. That's an easy one.


3,372 posted on 03/15/2007 9:11:48 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

But do they (LE) have the bottle of Methadone or was it left in the house for Stern or one of his gophers to dispose of?


3,373 posted on 03/15/2007 9:13:57 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Howlin

More like the Nanny caring for the baby.

I have been trying to visualize Howard in the lounge chair at night snuggled up with the baby.

Nope isn't working.

Watch pics of that will leak out now.


3,374 posted on 03/15/2007 9:14:51 PM PDT by Global2010 ( I am just ole Lab dog with my head stickin' out the window and my ears a flappin' in the wind.htp)
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To: Jrabbit

"I think Anna just had a port. So, in case she needed an IV because of dehydration or meds, the IV line was open. If she was dead already when Tas was attempting to give her fluids, the "water" wouldn't "go in"....no circulation!"


THAT IS HUGE! (I saw where you explained 'water') And you are right . . . no circulation so it won't go.

I pictured the idiots trying to pour water in her mouth. A port 'just in case' is indicative of a huge problem here. It hasn't been mentioned at all by any of the media sleuths.


3,375 posted on 03/15/2007 9:17:51 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: windchime

Well Detective Windchime - you have nothing to hold me on so I am out of here. I have a baby to steal - (cough) I mean to take care of and money to count then move to my Swiss bank account.


3,376 posted on 03/15/2007 9:18:09 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Global2010

Dannielynn should start teething soon, shouldn't she? That ought to keep someone on their toes!


3,377 posted on 03/15/2007 9:18:44 PM PDT by pnz1 (Pray for our troops-they need it now more than ever..)
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To: Dante3

I agree. I haven't talked to the Florida or Bahamian police or Dr. Perper, so I don't have a lot of hard facts. I do have common sense. I know how things look. I deplore the lifestyle Anna and crew seemed to lead.
Remember John Belushi? I remember when his girlfriend, Kathy Smith, was charged with involuntary manslaugher for injecting him with drugs, tried and convicted. I recall feeling ambivalent about that at the time. I felt sorry for her and don't remember if she was the first person to ever be charged in that kind of situation. Anyone remember? She certainly didn't want him to die, but was the enabler. I'm still not sure how such things should be prosecuted, though I certainly believe there need to be consequences. Both Anna AND Howard should have been in rehab/self-help programs, but you can't force anyone to do that on their own.
I'm concerned about the PI Danny visited and want to know more about that, I'm concerned about the doctors, and I've never said Stern didn't do anything wrong. If he didn't intentionally murder Danny and/or Anna, he's already lost a great deal. As I said way earlier on the thread, I lean toward Larry B. as does everyone here. He's probably not a saint, but who is? I think there was more to his and Anna's breakup than we are privy to, he did break a contract with her, and he didn't go to the hospital authorities to tell them about the drug/s Howard brought into her hospital room. I would have. For some reason, she lost trust in him, and chose to not continue the relationship. Was Howard jealous of Larry? Probably. Did he interfere? Probably. Did Anna make her own decision about Larry? Probably.
Sorry for the too long post.


3,378 posted on 03/15/2007 9:19:10 PM PDT by tabor
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To: Pepper777
And the only one who would have conveyed the 105 temp info to Bonnie would be Howard.

We all know the Brigitte said her temperature had gone down. So did Howard tell Perper and Bonnie the same story and Brigitte upset that? Is Perper putting that out as a teaser to Howard??

3,379 posted on 03/15/2007 9:20:29 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: stlnative

I don't think you can do that with narcotics. You have to have a new prescription and sign for the stuff.


3,380 posted on 03/15/2007 9:22:04 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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