Posted on 03/13/2007 6:54:28 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
Dell Inc. began polling customers about their software preferences on Tuesday as part of an effort by the struggling PC vendor to meet a popular request for desktops and notebooks that run on Linux instead of Windows.
Dell posted the survey on a company blog, asking PC users to choose between Linux flavors such as Fedora and Ubuntu, and to pick more general choices such as notebooks versus desktops, high-end models versus value models and telephone-based support versus community-based support.
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Yep, like I already said it was a minor mistake, which a reading of the thread you finally linked shows. I made a simple mistake and said linux kernel developers instead of linux developers, but the underlying point remained true.
It's a perfect example of what happens on these threads, since you can't handle the key points of the discussion, you run off out in left field on some minor detail or some other distraction at your first opportunity to hide from the real facts of the discusion. We're seeing it here again right now, of course.
Back to the point you're hiding from this thread, Dell still isn't shipping Linux on home desktops, despite the countless threads we've seen claiming they were, whether all you can do is bring up some typo I made months ago as an excuse or not. LOL it's not going to cut it, there is no excuse for Dell not loading Linux on home computers except for one reason: nobody really wants them enough to actually pay for them. A simple fact you need to admit but like the other Lunix koolaid guzzlers can't bring yourself to.
FYI Torvalds code is completely dependent on Stallman's code to operate, not the other way around. And Stallman owns the copyright on significantly more code than Torvalds. That's why you're all getting jerked around by Stallman right now LOL.
IF it was a minor mistake you would have corrected yourself quickly not defended, and then changed (without admitting the mistake).. You lied and were busted.
The historical sign that you've lost your position, lost any ability to honestly argue any facts, and will resort to personal attacks only.
Here you are talking about your apparently strange religion and how you despise Bush for it again too.
Example #1.
You've already left a trail of lies and libel on this thread alone. Might as well quit before you get anymore.
LMAO you're stilltrying to hide behind an insignificant typo from back in 2005? That was no lie, lies are like when you kept going from thread to thread claiming all Windows 2000 support was being ended as part of your endless effort to push your leftist software on everyone. Of course all honest people know Windows 2000 will continue to get security patches till 2010, despite your misinformation campaign attempt. Wonder if Dell will be shipping Linux on home computers even by then ROFL.
It is funny watching you flounder around and throw up your wall of BS in defense of leftist causes. You may recall you've even called lying on purpose quote "fun", while I get my entertainment out of busting liars instead.
^^^^^^^^^^^Secunia has issued a total of 3 Secunia advisories in 2003-2007 for Microsoft Windows Vista.^^^^^^^^^^^6
Yeah, because so many people were running Vista in 2003. *sarcasm*
^^^^^^^^^^^^Secunia has issued a total of 266 Secunia advisories in 2003-2007 for RedHat Enterprise Linux 4^^^^^^^^^
You've got a slightly apples/oranges comparison here. RHEL comes with alot more software than windows does.
Comparing XP to RHEL is a better comparison, both have been out longer. And look at Secunia's bottom line for RHEL:
Unpatched 0% (0 of 267 Secunia advisories)
Now look at XP:
http://secunia.com/product/22/
Unpatched 19% (33 of 178 Secunia advisories)
Furthermore, to bring Windows to the same level that Red Hat is at, you also have to include IIS, MS Office, MSSQL, photoshop, and several other packages that isn't included with a default install of windows.
You have no argument.
Let me repeat that, you have no argument.
I can guarantee you that you *DO* *NOT* want to also include those products into your argument in order to put both on the same playing field. The amount of exploits..... I have little doubt that the number would be in the thousands, compared with RHEL's 267.
I'd like to see Red Hat release a stripped down version of RHEL that only includes a text editor, a basic paint program, and other OS basics that windows comes with..... Just for comparison purposes re: Secunia. They would easily win.
RHEL would win hands down. I've read those security bulletins before, alot of them are the packages installed.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't know of any freeper who looks up to Stallman.
However, can think of several who'd likely look up to Torvalds.
Nothing wrong with looking up to a pragmatist, I'd think.
You get your entertainment out of being one. I admitted my fun little ruse and stated my reasons (no, you didn't catch me, contrary to your previous lie). I don't remember you ever really admitting one of your many concretely-documented lies to me. I remember you giving a politician's non-admission response once.
LMAO, you're the one who specifically mentioned Windows Vista in post 34. I simply showed the facts - being 3 known vulnerabilities in Vista verses 266 in the Red Hat you've been boasting about LOL. Yet like most confused if not corrupt Lunix pumpers you still try to claim I'm wrong. Thanks for the laughs, and the sinking of your own cause yet again.
If you want a better one, go to where he said Stallman opposes patents, meaning all patents. After countered with the truth (against software patents only), he continued on this line and even called me deceitful for correcting him, and never apolgized. In a later thread he quietly switched to saying "software patents," but never admitted his lie.
Or what about claiming that a FReeper supported sending people to a hacker site to get OS updates, when all GE was pointed to was a flash animation of an update that showed how easy it is?
Or when he accused FD of saying Dell ships Linux for desktops, couldn't back it up, and eventually pointed to one of his own posts as a post FD made saying it.
Or how about when he was libeling Halfmanhalfamazing, saying he was a Stallman-supporting zealot looking for "recruits" for the "cause" and pointing to his supposedly Stallman-loving posts somewhere else, where Halfmanhalfamazing was actually seriously ripping against Stallman on that board ("Stallman is a whackjob. Every time he speaks it's diarrhea of the mouth.").
Oh, and what about saying Linus Torvalds did a 180 on his views of the GPL3, despite that Torvalds maintained that the draft was absolutely unacceptable?
It would probably take days to research all of his lies, especially when he takes another FReeper's post out of context in order to commit libel.
True of course. FYI his name is Shuttleworth.
After countered with the truth (against software patents only)
You've been defending that leftist moonbat endlessly of course, but never linked anything to back you up on this, ever, just typical antiRepublican BS.
what about claiming that a FReeper supported sending people to a hacker site to get OS updates
N3WBI3 has admitted he's a hacker, and has obvious hacker symbology in his name, so his site is a hacker site by definition.
when he accused FD of saying Dell ships Linux for desktops
There's been countless threads claiming this, all lies of course, Dell still isn't shippiong Linux on home computers LMAO.
when he was libeling Halfmanhalfamazing, saying he was a Stallman-supporting zealot
Well here he is on this very thread claiming there's more holes in Vista when the facts show 200+ to 3 in favor of Vista LOL.
Torvalds maintained that the draft was absolutely unacceptable?
No he hasn't, you're wrong on the facts again of course, but what we expect from liberal phonies. Pinging your hell hound now too I see LMAO.
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/13607/Torvalds-Hasnt-Ruled-Out-GPL-3-for-Linux
"It's quite possible" said Torvalds...
Again, your distortion. He was a space tourist and rode a Russian rocket up to his destination. Like I said, it's like saying I have connections with the German airline industry because I once rode Lufthansa. Very dishonest, just like you.
You've been defending that leftist moonbat endlessly of course, but never linked anything to back you up on this, ever, just typical antiRepublican BS.
You still fail to admit. You claimed, without support, that he was against all patents, and even linked to pages proving my point, that he was just against software patents. You later began saying "software patents" in tacit admission that you lied. But you never really admitted it.
N3WBI3 has admitted he's a hacker, and has obvious hacker symbology in his name, so his site is a hacker site by definition.
You falsely claimed he was saying you should go there to get OS updates. It was only a Flash animation showing how easy they are. You libeled another FReeper.
There's been countless threads claiming this, all lies of course, Dell still isn't shippiong Linux on home computers LMAO.
As is your way, you try to evade the point. You claimed HE said it and could provide not one link to prove it. When cornered, you scurried away. You claim you're religious, so remember the prohibition against bearing false witness.
Well here he is on this very thread claiming there's more holes in Vista when the facts show 200+ to 3 in favor of Vista LOL.
Again, evasion. We're talking about how you called him a Stallman follower despite posts (that you linked to!) clearly showing how much he despises Stallman. You libeled yet another FReeper.
No he hasn't, you're wrong on the facts again of course, but what we expect from liberal phonies.
You have never been able to support your claim. Even the Forbes link showed he was still against it in its current form. He only said that IF they changed it to remove terms he finds objectionable, he MIGHT be willing to accept it. That is not a 180, as his position remained the same about that GPL3 draft. You lied, and have never repented.
Pinging your hell hound now too I see LMAO.
This fact has been lost on you many times, and I understand how you can forget to do it sometimes, as we all forget sometimes. However, criticizing me for following the standard polite FR convention of pinging those referred to in a post is just like you.
You are THE most abusive FReeper, period.
His previous position:
And quite frankly, I don't see that changing. I think it's insane to require people to make their private signing keys available, for example. I wouldn't do it. So I don't think the GPL v3 conversion is going to happen for the kernel, since I personally don't want to convert any of my code.It is clauses like that which, if omitted, could theoretically lead him to accept the GPL. He has not since changed his opinion on the "crusading" aspects of the GPL3. If you can show clear evidence that he's okay with moving his code to a license with crusading terms such as this, then produce it. Otherwise, admit you lied.
LOL what a meltdown. Are you slobbering yet?
Asking GE to admit a lie is like asking Bill Clinton to admit a lie..
Irritation over the most dishonest FReeper, ever. Are you ready to admit to your proven lies and apologize to those you've libeled?
When SBC outsourced tech support to India they hired people who's only ability was speaking english. They gave them flip-charts. "If the customer complains that they cannot connect flip to 31b."
Such 'tech support' is worse than useless.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^LMAO, you're the one who specifically mentioned Windows Vista in post 34.^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I mentioned both XP and Vista.
Sorry that fact was too inconvenient for you.
I also mentioned performance.
Sorry that fact was also too inconvenient for you.
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