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Need Link to Law (Vanity)

Posted on 04/08/2007 8:01:10 AM PDT by savedbygrace

I recently ordered some stuff from a mail order company. I ordered a quantity of three and they shipped me those three, which arrived one day, and two more of the same items, on a different order number, and they arrived the following day.

I understand that federal law says if you receive an item you didn't order, it is considered a gift from the company, and you are not required to send it back.

My question is: Which federal law? Anyone got a link to it, or a cite?

No moralizing, please. I'll decide that for myself.


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1 posted on 04/08/2007 8:01:11 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace

Stealing, even if it’s legal, is still stealing.

Return the extra product.


2 posted on 04/08/2007 8:02:51 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: savedbygrace

Return the product, if some poor slub made this mistake they will probley take it out of HIS salary, not from the company.


3 posted on 04/08/2007 8:06:25 AM PDT by stockpirate (A nation that does not honor it warriors will be defeated by a nation that does.)
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To: savedbygrace

This is not a question of law, but it does question your personal integrity.


4 posted on 04/08/2007 8:09:18 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: savedbygrace

“I understand that federal law says if you receive an item you didn’t order, it is considered a gift from the company, and you are not required to send it back.”

There is no such federal law stating that if someone make a mistake, you get to keep the merchandise.


5 posted on 04/08/2007 8:09:41 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: savedbygrace

If they have your credit card number you will pay for it whether you want it or not.


6 posted on 04/08/2007 8:10:04 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: savedbygrace
If you decide to sell the items on ebay, as long as you give half the proceeds to charity, I’m sure you can still go to heaven.
7 posted on 04/08/2007 8:13:07 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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And pay for the return shipping costs and spend half a day of your time, and very likely get billed for the goods because they conveniently lost the RMA.

Screw them. They are either conning you, or they are incompetent, and screwing you and themselves. Either way, they need to learn.

I hope there is such a law . . .


8 posted on 04/08/2007 8:14:24 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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When I was in the service I got a fed income tax refund of $27, the next day I got another check for $27, the next day another one. I cashed all three of them. Nothing was ever said. I’m still waiting for the hammer to fall on that bit of stupidity on my part.

Probably safe by now though, that was more than 40 years ago.


9 posted on 04/08/2007 8:14:44 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: savedbygrace

Did you try google?......


10 posted on 04/08/2007 8:15:50 AM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: savedbygrace

I don’t have the law handy but do consider you are in a gray area. The law you seek has to do with unsolicited material that shows up on your doorstep, stuff that comes out of the blue. In your case, you have a business relationship with the company and the situation you describe is an overship. Maybe their error, maybe not. However, since you have a business relationship, it is likely that the terms of service of the supplier (that you agreed to when placing the order) takes precedent over the “out of the blue” law that you seek. Chances are you will lose in actual court and likely have already lost in the court of FR opinion.


11 posted on 04/08/2007 8:18:42 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: Born to Conserve
Screw them. They are either conning you, or they are incompetent, and screwing you and themselves. Either way, they need to learn.

Nice attitude. Nothing wrong with calling them and letting them know what happened. They can make arrangements to retrieve their merchandise if they desire. You can inform your credit card company not to accept any additional charges.

12 posted on 04/08/2007 8:24:45 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Born to Conserve

Yeah, and society makes drug addicts shoot up. And politicians just *had* to take that bribe money...

buying a computer from newegg $1000

getting a duplicate and returning it $50

Person Integrity *priceless*


13 posted on 04/08/2007 8:25:17 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: savedbygrace

I believe you are correct—if you receive something via mail-order that you did not order, you may consider it a gift. However, I don’t whether a duplicate would qualify as something you “did not order.”

The federal regulation is from the Federal Trade Commission. I don’t know the name of the law that gives them the authority to make the regulation but someone around here must.


14 posted on 04/08/2007 8:37:20 AM PDT by freespirited (Resentment, redistribution, and re-education. The three Rs of liberalism.)
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To: savedbygrace
"No moralizing, please. I'll decide that for myself."

One would hope that, with an user name like "savedbygrace", there would be no need for deciding, ethical or legal. Send the product back...
15 posted on 04/08/2007 10:07:49 AM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: freespirited

Thank you, freespirited. That’s the answer that leads me to the right place. Thank you.

It does two things for me:

1) It resolves an informal debate I’ve been having with someone

2) It gives me an advantage when talking to the company. There was never any real question in my mind about returning the items. What I might be able to do with this knowledge of the FTC regs is to negotiate with this company for an added credit or discount. Maybe it will work, maybe not.

Those who posted their moralizing condemnations are all wrong headed on this one. They all made huge unwarranted assumptions based on inadequate information.


16 posted on 04/08/2007 10:26:09 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: rockrr; ketsu; stockpirate; DJ Taylor; babygene; Born to Conserve; NonValueAdded

See #16


17 posted on 04/08/2007 10:32:22 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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2. You wish to leverage an advantage for personal gain over the mistake of this company and you call me (us) “wrongheaded”?!


18 posted on 04/08/2007 10:41:25 AM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: rockrr; freespirited

“2. You wish to leverage an advantage for personal gain over the mistake of this company and you call me (us) “wrongheaded”?!”

Yup.

Are you claiming that you NEVER negotiate to gain an advantage? Never?

Besides, I left out several important facts regarding this situation, facts that are irrelevant to my question, so you really don’t have all the information required to make such judgments. You really don’t.

I’ve gotten the information I need, so buh bye. Thanks again to freespirited, who simply answered my question without judging.


19 posted on 04/08/2007 10:54:59 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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I hope you get everything that is coming to you. how's that for oblique?
20 posted on 04/08/2007 10:56:05 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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