Posted on 05/13/2007 4:05:27 PM PDT by Zakeet
LOL nothing in America is goin to collapse, you wanting to see us act like the ignorant barbarians of the world who support Stallman is the obvious joke.
“I’m all for patenting new, real software inventions. But unfortunately, most software patents are B.S. They are not “inventions” per se.”
Quite right. Patent law is quite specific about “prior art”. Unfortunately, it is well known that the Patent Office just dealt out software patents without doing much checking into the “prior art” argument. In fact, a lot of patents were given for things that 2nd year Computer Science students would independently design.
One famous example that made Windows perform poorly in the early ‘90’s was the AT&T patent on the “backing store”, which was simply copying the hidden portion behind a window to disk. Microsoft wouldn’t pay the royalty, which is their right, but Windows performance suffered because they didn’t come up with a better non-violating technique for a while.
Linus Torvalds may have called OSX "a piece of crap" too but it's actually the other way around when you compare the two, especially on the desktop. If you weren't so infatuated with foreigners and leftists like he is it would be obvious, but sales figures (how much someone is willing to actually pay for something vs. have dirty old uncle dick give it to them for free) tell the story you refuse to admit.
You always have a problem with warping facts. He was referring only to the free-software Mach kernel (not GPL, made by Carnegie-Mellon as a research project), and that was in OS X 10.0, which was pretty bad. Mach is still the reason for the performance problems I mentioned. Torvalds also personally prefers big, fast monolithic kernels as opposed to microkernels as Mach is. He even had a famous argument with the author of Minix over this design philosophy difference.
Personally, I can see both sides to the debate. Monolithic kernels are faster, but they're harder to debug, harder to port and inherently less robust. The big picture is that Mach made it easier for Apple to smoothly transition to Intel.
If you weren't so infatuated with foreigners and leftists
I'm infatuated with good software. You are the only one on this board infatuated with these people. You are the one who usually brings them up, as you did in your first post to this thread. Nobody had even discussed Torvalds or Stallman on this thread until that.
Actually I think that requiring a license to use a disk format is a joke. Being able to patent a disk format is a *bad* joke.
Easier to laugh then address the fact that the license of OpenSource software was violated?
Auto-save is always a pain when you're dealing with the 100+ megabyte files common in publishing. The only thing that can solve that is a fast, multi-processor computer and a really fast hard drive. Or even better, an XServe RAID attached with fiber. 400 MB/sec write speeds shouldn't slow you down much even for huge files.
Obviously your beloved free software isn't as magical and wonderful as you claimed.
You are the one who usually brings them up, as you did in your first post to this thread. Nobody had even discussed Torvalds or Stallman on this thread until that.
The article that spawned this thread mentions him extensively. You can try to hide the facts all you want but "the father of free software" is a green party leftist nutjob, and the more people who know it the better.
1) Mach falls under a category of free software that you have given a pass on, like BSD (its license is similar).
2) It is "magical." Microkernel-based operating systems (or even hybrid ones) are much more robust and portable than equivalent monolithic systems. Microsoft used a microkernel for NT, which allowed them the wide array of platforms that NT originally ran on. This caused performance issues (due to message passing and processing, a consequence of using microkernels), causing Microsoft to later fold much more into the kernel to avoid it. This made NT less robust and less portable, but faster.
The article that spawned this thread mentions him extensively.
Yet you are the first FReeper to bring him up. We just ignored him. That's because you are fanatical about Stallman, and we aren't.
Wait a minute. Why am I having to educate you on the basics of operating systems architecture? Not only are you a troll, but you’re not a very good one. You should at least have some very slight knowledge of the subject on which you are trolling. You didn’t know what Torvalds’ criticism was about. And even when informed, you didn’t know of the implications of that criticism, and the age-old debate of microkernel vs. monolithic design.
You couldn’t have posted that with any honesty had you known that very, very basic information about operating systems.
Please get educated before you post in tech threads again. I would say get out of your mom’s basement, but most tech people living in their mom’s basement know a lot more about operating systems than you do.
At this very moment he is training for the Mr Universe Contest while looking at his Nobel prize. He is being cheered on by his supermodel wife in their John Edwards like estate while she put the final touches on the press release about the new Operating system he has written by himself from scratch..
And that's the point I make to Microsoft defenders. Whether Gates's company is right or wrong, you've got to have seriously annoyed a lot of people when you cause your own worst competitor to spontaneously assemble itself from the grassroots.
Microkernel, hybrid or monolithic? And what OS did he "copy" when writing it? How many bad patents does it violate?
Why is all three in one and not a single patent violated, in point of fat Linux has already violated 136 of his own patents..
I kind of expected that given that they did not disclose any of the patents that the standard Linux distro supposedly infringes on. That meant they their patents were weak and they didn't want them invalidated, or they knew that the open source developers would immediately start working to make their products non-infringing. It's better for the dishonest to have the FUD threat hanging than to have the source of it corrected, thereby eliminating the FUD.
The problem is that Microsoft still plans to use the FUD threat to lure other unknowing or fearful companies into business deals. And all the while they'll keep those patent numbers in the dark, because light is the best disinfectant.
The article also has some inaccuracies Microsoft's problem: The Free Software Foundation -- the group that controls Linux licensing terms While FSF wrote the GPL Linux controls the licensing terms as he has the copyright.
Ridiculous of course, I'm keeping the thread on topic despite your endless attempts to divert it off into unrelated rechnical minutia. The topic is do you support intellectual property protections on US technology, or do you support radical leftists who want all software to be given away for free to everyone on Earth. You clearly want US software given away, including to communist countries, and even support line by line copying as in the case of China's Red Flag Linux. That is the subject, and no amount of you twisting or flailing around in desperation like usual is going to change it LOL.
LMAO, no they didn't, you should concentrate more on the subject matter than your pathetic diversion attempts. Since the leftist pukes running the FSF own the copyright on most Linux distro code they are a perfect target for an IP lawsuit from Microsoft. Microsoft has been ordered to pay a couple billion the last year or so for patent suits, wonder how well Stallman and his cronies can handle a hit like that? Don't worry, I'm sure you can still contribute to their defense fund LOL.
You know what is really slowing things down (and likely causing the crashes)? They are using up so much system resources to watch everyone to make sure they areworking fast enough that they are slowing everyone down.
That'll do it, especially since that kind of snooping software is often poorly written.
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