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Second JFK assassin 'likely'
Herald Sun ^ | 18 May 2007

Posted on 05/18/2007 3:02:33 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher

A NEW analysis of remaining bullet fragments from the 1963 assassination of US president John F Kennedy suggests a second shooter may have been involved.

The findings suggest the prevailing theory that a sole gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald, killed Kennedy is wrong, according to a research team that published its findings yesterday.

The researchers "show that evidence used to rule out a second assassin is fundamentally flawed," wrote William Tobin, the main author of the report, published in the latest issue of the Annals of Applied Statistics.

Mr Tobin, a former FBI agent and forensic scientist, teamed with bullet lead analysis expert Cliff Spiegelman of Texas A & M University to re-examine the five bullet fragments recovered after Kennedy's assassination, using new scientific advances.

The findings countered testimony to the House Select Committee on Assassinations hearing in 1978 in which Dr Vincent Guinn said the bullet fragments recovered signalled that two bullets of an unusual kind of ammunition were used.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: conspiracykooks; dallas; jfk; kennedyassassination; kooks; kooksnevergiveup; secondassassin; tinfoil
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To: Proud_texan
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza ? That's impossible Kennedy was shot by a lonely guy. The Dealey Plaza was not even shown on the map in the Dallas Morning News of 11/22, in order to have less people at the place, at the time. On Zapruder film, Kennedy has his right temple destroyed with a large part of the head. In the autopsy photographs, his left temple has nothing.
21 posted on 05/18/2007 3:30:26 AM PDT by drzz
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To: Jaysun
Amen Brother! Did anyone even bother to talk to this man, find out what he was doing on 22 November 1963? I think not!

He and his gang were seen speeding away from the scene in a teeny-tiny trolley, and reported to some midget king of a foreign power.

Yeah, you're laughin now, but it's all here on my Magic Drawing Board...

And if you listen to this line in his theme song backwards...

Good morning, Captain, it's going to be a perfect day!

...it says:

Down in front! We can't see the king of the Oliver Stone Land pass! Oookah chookah! What's that stain on her pink suit? Long live Richard E.!

Though of course some have disputed this and claim all it really says is "Drink Diet Fanta Orange". But they're communists!

22 posted on 05/18/2007 3:30:36 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Here we go again.


23 posted on 05/18/2007 3:30:46 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: don-o

Yes they did. So officially JFK murder is a conspiracy.


24 posted on 05/18/2007 3:31:08 AM PDT by drzz
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To: Blueflag
"Oswald could have managed to do it as an untrained shooter"

While he wasn't an outstanding marksman in the service he was a Marine and there's no Marine that's an untrained shooter.

I would also observe that having seen the setting in person I've never seen a video or a photograph that accurately represents how close in everything is. As an average marksman my first thought was "with a round chambered I could do that". True I've never fired a Mannlicher-Carcano but I just don't see it being as hard as some have portrayed it.

25 posted on 05/18/2007 3:31:13 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
The findings "mean that the bullet fragments from the assassination that match could have come from three or more separate bullets."

Or they could NOT have come from three or more separate bullets. Note carefully that these researchers are NOT claiming that their analysis demonstrates that the bullet fragments did in fact come from three or more separate bullets.

If that is the case, "then a second assassin is likely, as an additional bullet would not be attributable to the main suspect, Mr Oswald," the report said.

Note the "if that is the case" language - they are saying that IF something is true which their study does NOT in fact actually claim to demonstrate is true (i.e., that the fragments must have come from three or more separate bullets), then two shooters are likely. The "if that is the case" language makes this statement meaningless, because the researchers have not demonstrated that "it is the case."

"We believe there is no scientific basis from the fragment matching performed by Dr Guinn to conclude that only two bullets were the sources of the assassination fragments."

Although it is possible that only two bullets were the source; they are saying merely that this one particular test made did not in and of itself prove that to be the case.

Heavy spin in this article.

26 posted on 05/18/2007 3:32:32 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: drzz
I'm really convinced that aliens did it and I have the pictures to prove it.

I'd post them but I have to go take a shower.

27 posted on 05/18/2007 3:32:35 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Isn’t the 50 year sealed evidence and testimony gag order ready to expire in 6 years?


28 posted on 05/18/2007 3:33:18 AM PDT by moonman
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To: drzz; Blueflag
I prefer the Onion theory (paraphrase):

JFK killed by Oswald, Johnson, Communists, CIA, KGB, Congress, Telephone Company and Mob--President Dies in Hail of 35 Bullets from 17 Directions

29 posted on 05/18/2007 3:33:32 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: FreedomForce
Might have been Icky Twerp. He was in Dallas at the time.

You may be right. He and his monkey faced friends (Ajax and whatever) might have had a hand in this.
30 posted on 05/18/2007 3:33:51 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's like people who hate corn bread and hate anchovies, but love cornchovie bread.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The first on-site reports said the shooting sounded like machine gun fire.

Check it out — I remember it vividly.


31 posted on 05/18/2007 3:34:44 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Proud_texan
Agreed. People can't believe that the entire US election process was demolished by one nutcase.

Speaking of Al Gore...

32 posted on 05/18/2007 3:34:45 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Enduring Freedom
Not really a conspiracy type, but the picture of JFK at the moment of the fatal impact just does not jive with my experiences with hunting or firearms.

Oswald was a trained shooter, he was Marine and they ALL can shoot and well. Yet then I have to believe that in an incredibly short time (7 seconds) Oswald missed his 1st two shots, but scored on the last very hurried one.

It does smell.

33 posted on 05/18/2007 3:36:16 AM PDT by M.K. Borders (Be Brave, Be Free. Burn the Card!)
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To: Shooter 2.5; The KG9 Kid

ping


34 posted on 05/18/2007 3:39:37 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Darkwolf377

Hey the day you see Secret Service body guards leaving their cover of the President minutes before he gets killed, please be wise and conclude they let him being killed.

Or you have no idea about bodyguards.

If you study the period, you wil see that JFK led the US into a position of weakness that was alarming, in Cuba (Missile crisis, pigs bay fiasco) and Vietnam (JFK wanted to leave in the autumn of 1963).

The US establishment wanted to eliminate a dangerous guy. They did it.

I’m not a conspiracy lover, I deeply respect the American government, but after having been to Dallas and visiting Dealey Plaza, you cannot say the official version is true...

And I remind you : the House Select Committe on Assassination said OFFICIALLY that JFK was likely killed by a conspiracy.


35 posted on 05/18/2007 3:41:08 AM PDT by drzz
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To: moonman
Isn’t the 50 year sealed evidence and testimony gag order ready to expire in 6 years?

That would be 2013. Unfortunately, the Mayan calendar shows the world ending in 2012, so I guess we'll never find out.

36 posted on 05/18/2007 3:41:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus: "A whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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To: don-o
I believe so. But then, IIRC, they said that it was soooooo long ago, that they’d never be able to figure it all out. IOW, don’t mean nothin’. Drive on.
37 posted on 05/18/2007 3:41:18 AM PDT by Roccus (Stolen tag.............The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriotism.)
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To: drzz
In the autopsy photographs, his left temple has nothing.

Then you're not looking at your photograph.
38 posted on 05/18/2007 3:42:24 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Darkwolf377
Good morning, Captain, it's going to be a perfect day!

...it says:

Down in front! We can't see the king of the Oliver Stone Land pass! Oookah chookah! What's that stain on her pink suit? Long live Richard E.!

Though of course some have disputed this and claim all it really says is "Drink Diet Fanta Orange". But they're communists!




I just played the theme song backwards on my record player. Call me crazy, but here's what I heard:

Fold a slice of cheese into an airplane.
You ass!
We'll climb a tree and eat a sausage...
It'll built character, and teach us about sausages.
A yodeling catfish.
Vomiting, you ass!


Makes no sense. But then again, that's the way of crazy killer kangaroos.
39 posted on 05/18/2007 3:44:13 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's like people who hate corn bread and hate anchovies, but love cornchovie bread.)
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To: moonman

ICBW but I thought it was to be 75 yrs.


40 posted on 05/18/2007 3:44:48 AM PDT by Roccus (Stolen tag.............The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriotism.)
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