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HELP--How to make a boot disk for Windows 2000 Professional?

Posted on 05/23/2007 9:34:06 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu

This could be impertinent, posting two help threads so close together, but still trying to get a computer to work in some fashion.

Can a freeper go to this link: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and explain how to turn the four disks and two other things (makeboot) into a boot disk? Have downloaded all six, extracted the four disks, and put all the disks and the two black screen things into a folder. However, dragging the disk files to either of the two black screen things doesn't seem to work.

Also, intend to burn the boot disk to a CD instead of a floppy.

P.S. Other help thread is here .


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1 posted on 05/23/2007 9:34:07 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Are you logged in?


2 posted on 05/23/2007 9:36:15 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

On a related note, perhaps this will help:

Ultimate Boot CD v3.3
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,23100-order,1-page,1-c,alldownloads/description.html


3 posted on 05/23/2007 9:38:31 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

Appreciated.


4 posted on 05/23/2007 9:38:58 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

From the page you linked...

3. The W2K Pro disks are zipped images from the MS CD. Best bet is to download them, upzip them to a new folder where you also put makeboot.exe and makebt32.exe into and then run one of the makeboot utils depending on if you’re in dos or windows to create the diskset. Or, one can use Winimage to just create a single bootdisk.


5 posted on 05/23/2007 9:42:19 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Don’t waste your time. Get a Mac.


6 posted on 05/23/2007 9:44:03 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

are you a mac user?


7 posted on 05/23/2007 9:44:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Did you try simply double-clicking makebt32.exe?


8 posted on 05/23/2007 9:57:06 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

The question seems to be largely about the makeboots. How are they ‘run?’ Selected either of the two just makes a black screen pop up for a second, maybe less. Dragging the IMG files of the disks doesn’t seem to do much either. So how is the diskset made with either of the utils (guessing that those are makeboot.exe and makebt32.exe); how to get those to work?


9 posted on 05/23/2007 9:59:09 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: newgeezer
Ahhhh..... appreciated. Apparently either selected the makeboot.exe multiple times or something.

Have opened the util, and typed 'd' when asked what drive to put the disk into. And then the makebt32 went off. Though they are asking for a floppy drive. Does it have to be on a floppy? Neither computer has a floppy drive. They are both laptops.

10 posted on 05/23/2007 10:06:52 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
When I run makebt32.exe, it opens a DOS window and this is what it says:

Since you want to make a CD rather than floppies, have you tried what it said about using Winimage to make a single boot disk?

11 posted on 05/23/2007 10:17:03 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer
The boot disk in this link was burned onto a CD and booted up on the broken computer. But there are only boot disks for DOS and linux and 'others.' Guessing that Windows wouldn't be an 'others,' but will look....

Yep. 'Others' aren't for Windows 2000 professional.

So should: hard disk utilities; filesystem utilities; cpu/memory utilities; system utilities; boot first hard disk; boot second hard disk; or drop to console be selected? It states that first hard disk will boot after five minutes.

12 posted on 05/23/2007 10:18:21 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

If your objective is to boot the PC and diagnose its problem(s), the Ultimate Boot CD is a good tool.

But, if your objective is to make a boot CD specifically for Windows 2000 Professional, you probably want to try the Winimage solution.


13 posted on 05/23/2007 10:25:37 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer
Haven't tried that. What's winimage, and where to get it? Winimage was downloaded and extracted. Any instructions on how to use it? Have opened the program and inside the program opened each of the four disks, (the list got bigger and bigger until disk 4 was opened; then it got smaller), and went to the disk menu and selected format disk--and it didn't work.
14 posted on 05/23/2007 10:27:37 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: newgeezer

And does each of the Windows 2000 professional disks have to be be put onto individual CDs, or can they all be put onto one?


15 posted on 05/23/2007 10:35:08 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

C:\>del *.*


16 posted on 05/23/2007 10:39:30 AM PDT by chaos_5 (Is it all lost?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I can only guess “one can use Winimage to just create a single bootdisk” means Winimage can somehow be utilized to turn those three floppy disk images into a single CD.

After a quick skimming of winimaus.hlp, I’m guessing you can extract all the files from the 4 floppy images. Then, you can recombine all the files into a single CD image. (I’d guess any same-named files among the 4 floppy images are only needed once on the CD image.)


17 posted on 05/23/2007 10:50:21 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

Have tried both extracting the files and “Create CDRom Iso image.” Also, read disk (which it suggests the file is being used by another process—which it doesn’t seem to be), write disk (with both use drive c and removable d; c again suggests the file is being used while d doesn’t do squat), format disk (not supported by the disk drive), extrace (ignore subdirectories and also extract all files into same directory tried), format and write disk (combo of the two), and it still doesn’t burn the disk or make a single file/program to be burned.


18 posted on 05/23/2007 11:05:37 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

And their help section stinks, and a Google search for “how to make disk from image files on WinImage” was quite unsuccessful.


19 posted on 05/23/2007 11:06:35 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Any instructions on how to use it?

README.TXT is usually a good place to start.

Have opened the program and inside the program opened each of the four disks (the list got bigger and bigger until disk 4 was opened; then it got smaller),

Apparently, you can only have one image open (the last one) at any one time. It just so happened #2 list was longer than #1, and #3 was longer than #2.

went to the disk menu and selected format disk

You don't format a CD. It thinks you want to make a floppy disk from the image.

Read README.TXT and I'll bet you can find what you need. Like I said before, you probably want to Extract each of the four floppy images to a common directory and make a CD-ROM ISO image of all those files. Then burn the image onto a CD-R.

However, now that I tried it myself—extracted all the files to a new directory named "win2kboot"—it doesn't appear that Winimage is capable of making a new CD-ROM image. In fact, the HLP file says Winimage can't edit CD images, only write them. (I haven't time to really pour over the documentation, though.)

If I had a CD burner, I'd just burn all those extracted files onto a CD and see if that made a bootable CD-R. But, I don't have a CD burner at the moment to try it.

20 posted on 05/23/2007 11:18:29 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer
Appreciated. Will the img files have to be in order when burned?

As for the readme, this is it in its entirety:

 
                               WINIMAGE 6.10
                      Copyright 1993-2002 Gilles Vollant

For Windows 95/98/Me, Windows NT/2000/XP and Windows 3.1 with Win32s




PURPOSE
~~~~~~~
This Zipfile contains WinImage 6.10, standard and professional
version, and the self extractor.

This is the English version of WinImage 6.10. For other languages,
you need to download the translation Zipfile on the WinImage Internet
Web site http://www.winimage.com/download.htm .


STEP ONE
~~~~~~~~
You need to extract winima61.zip in a new directory (for example,
c:\winimage). You can use WinZip (http://www.winzip.com) for this
task.

You can also start the install file winima61.exe.


STEP TWO
~~~~~~~~
If you are running MSDOS + Windows 3.1x, you need to install Win32s 1.30.
There is a link to download Win32s at http://www.winimage.com/othertl.htm
You can also add FDREAD.EXE to your AUTOEXEC.BAT to read 1.68/DMF floppies.

(Note : FDREAD is only for MSDOS 5.x/6.x, NOT for Windows 9x/Me/NT/2000/XP)


STEP THREE
~~~~~~~~~~
If you want to run WinImage, just run WinImage.exe.

The full documentation is in the WinImaUS.HLP help file. The additional
features of WinImage 6.10 are in the "Evolution of WinImage topic".

Don't hesitate check the web site for up-to-date info.


Gilles Vollant
mailto:info@winimage.com
http://www.winimage.com
http://www.winimage.com/order.htm (for ordering a license)

The help section has a lot more, but it isn't that helpful for the specific thing.

21 posted on 05/23/2007 11:24:41 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Going through a lot of CDs, and it doesn’t make sense that the img files, if directly burned without being ‘configured’ into a boot disk will work, but will give it a try....


22 posted on 05/23/2007 11:28:15 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Will the img files have to be in order when burned?

As I said, I'd use Winimage to extract all the files from the four IMG files into a folder (e.g. "win2kboot"). Then, I'd burn all those files (not the folder, just its files) onto a CD. So, you wouldn't be burning the IMG files. The order of the files shouldn't matter.

Burning the floppy IMG files onto CDs will do nothing for you.

23 posted on 05/23/2007 1:11:15 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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Yet MORE links to supposed boot disks which either don't work or aren't easily burned onto CD:
24 posted on 05/23/2007 1:13:01 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

148 Kb is fine for what it says it does.

Once you boot your PC with a Windows 2000 Professional boot CD, what are you hoping to do next? Is it something you cannot do with the Ultimate Boot CD?


25 posted on 05/23/2007 1:21:02 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

Intend to run CHKDSK and remove the things which could have caused the blue screen so that the computer, and its files, programs, hard drive, and access to the internet can be used.


26 posted on 05/23/2007 1:30:07 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
All these boot CDs, and the symptoms are still the same: on the colorful Windows start up screen (or its equivalent in Repair or debug mode) the status/progress bar stops halfway, or a little over halfway, to be followed by the blue screen. There isn't even confirmation that the boot disk works--for Puppy Linux and the 'universal' (which ironically doesn't include Windows) boot disk at least show lines of type to show something new is on the computer. So is it just that the boot disks haven't actually been made, or is it just that issue doesn't involve booting up? Although it does have INACESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE..... (in the stop screen).
27 posted on 05/23/2007 2:17:09 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Are you sure it’s booting from the CD? If not, enter Setup (as it’s first starting to boot) to configure the boot devices so that it will boot from the CD-ROM drive before the hard drive(s).

Many PCs, even when they detect a bootable CD, will tell you to press any key to boot from the CD. Then, if you don’t press a key within n seconds, it will skip the CD and go to the next device on the list (usually the hard drive).

At any rate, if it’s doing the same thing it did when booting from the HD, it’s probably still booting from the HD.


28 posted on 05/23/2007 2:39:55 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Go Here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

Get the Iso

Burn to CD, DVD or Bluy Ray

Enjoy!

29 posted on 05/23/2007 2:44:11 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: newgeezer
Haven't changed the setup to put CD booting before hard drive, but have pressed F12 when appropriate to boot from CD/DVD. It just goes to a black screen with a small, white line in the upper left, and then to another black screen with a white progress bar (which it normally did), and then (if F8 isn't pressed to select: safe mode; device repair mode; debug mode; last good configuration) to the screen with a picture and a progress bar at the bottom. The blue progress bar goes about halfway and then stops.

So, as for your question, definitely trying to boot from CD, and that is definitely being selected, but it's more a question of whether the stuff on the CDs are bootable. The one in your link seems to be (it is running a memory diagnostic currently--there are so many options and unfamiliar with computers, so since it had 'Windows' and 'memory' (which seems as though it is a big thing which could cause a blue screen) the Windows memory diagnostic was selected).

30 posted on 05/23/2007 3:17:25 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: ChadGore
Have already tried Puppy Linux. Suspect that ubuntu will have many of the same issues as with that fiasco.
31 posted on 05/23/2007 3:18:38 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: ChadGore

Appreciated anyway, though. Sorry if the earlier post seemed a bit rude. Just personally don’t expect ubuntu to be that helpful given personal low technology skills and prior experience with Linux.


32 posted on 05/23/2007 3:20:04 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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