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Can Amnesty save our SS and Medicaid programs?

Posted on 05/24/2007 1:56:51 PM PDT by wolfcreek

Heard Rush talking about this today.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; congress; immigrantlist; medicaid; ss
What Congress doesn't or refuses to understand, the low wage individuals being offered amnesty, will not add but, take the last vestiges of these programs.
1 posted on 05/24/2007 1:56:54 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek
Mid term, our elected officials hope a large influx of workers will increase SS revenues.

Long term, we're just making the eventual train wreck worse.

But our elected officials hope to stave it off until after they are dead.

2 posted on 05/24/2007 1:58:27 PM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: wolfcreek

Nope. They drain it. They’ll bring their aged and infirm parents over and stick ‘em on SS, Medicare and Medicaid so fast it will make people’s heads spin.
Heck, if they don’t have ‘em, they’ll make ‘em up for the checks...


3 posted on 05/24/2007 1:59:00 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: wolfcreek

What was Rush’s opinion of this? Please tell me he wasn’t repeating the administration’ talking points.


4 posted on 05/24/2007 1:59:03 PM PDT by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: wolfcreek
Personally, I don't believe the elites are THAT brain dead....even they know the cost of illegals outweigh any benefit.
I think it's more a matter of catering to their big campaign donors who favor the cheap - make that slave - labor.

As for the Rats, they just want a bigger power base.

5 posted on 05/24/2007 2:01:34 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: dmartin

Bottom Line: Rush thinks this bill will destroy America as We know it. I’m so glad he’s on board.


6 posted on 05/24/2007 2:05:18 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Calling Libs *rats* is hate-speech against rodents.)
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7 posted on 05/24/2007 2:08:59 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: truthkeeper

And why would illegals continue to work for free when they can be collecting checks and food stamps after being legalized????


8 posted on 05/24/2007 2:10:20 PM PDT by bmw_n_me (Keep working! Millions depend on your welfare!)
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To: truthkeeper

They’re too chicken-shit to try and change the failing programs but, not too scared to try and push this BS on the American public.


9 posted on 05/24/2007 2:16:44 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Calling Libs *rats* is hate-speech against rodents.)
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To: wolfcreek

If you can, file early for S.S. — you never know how long it will last. :)


10 posted on 05/24/2007 2:20:24 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: wolfcreek

Low income people dont pay taxes...

They get Earned Income money FROM the IRS...


11 posted on 05/24/2007 2:24:29 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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And workmans comp and SS benefits if they’re injured on the job. Smart folks We got working up there in DC.


12 posted on 05/24/2007 2:27:34 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Calling Libs *rats* is hate-speech against rodents.)
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To: wolfcreek; Tennessee Nana; bmw_n_me; xcamel; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1839361/posts

[snip]One problem Rector talked about was the drain this bill would be on the Social Security System. But a caller from San Francisco summed it up best. As an employee of the Social Security Administration she made some frightening observations. When these how-ever-many-millions of aliens are ‘legalized’, by whatever method, they are immediately eligible for SSI. Under SS guidelines, no one who does not speak English over age 40 is considered viable to learn new job skills and are automatically eligible for disability. They just have to say they are ‘depressed’. Of course, with an interpreter, paid by YOU! They will also have free legal services to get them through the process.

I’ll say that again...when they hit 40 and haven’t been required to learn English, they go on disability whether they ever paid in or not! And when you get SSI, you get food stamps, etc, ad naseum.

The good civil servant said there are already many Hispanic language web sites set up to guide their flock on how to apply. The SS offices are required to tell applicants where they can get help with applications. You can bet there are plenty in Arabic and other languages as well.


13 posted on 05/24/2007 5:18:15 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: wolfcreek

I think they do understand, but don’t care.


14 posted on 05/26/2007 2:56:49 PM PDT by zendari
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To: AuntB

I do not oppose amnesty, but I cannot understand why we should make any more people beneficiaries of our bankrupt public welfare system. Illegal aliens especially do not belong in this country, and even after amnesty, we cannot tax our citizens to subsidize them for Social Security, supplemental security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, public housing, or any other public-welfare benefit except deportation. Doing so not only severely strains our already severely indebted national treasury but also encourages more welfare queens to jump the border and immigrate illegally.

That’s it folks: we should expect extreme tax hikes over the next several years in addition to the demise of the tax cuts of this decade and any extortionate carbon-dioxide-emissions tax that the Democrats declare. Prepare to fork over 70% of your income to the government instead of 40% now. Anyone want to guess what that dramatic increase in an already confiscatory tax burden—whether concentrated on the “rich” exclusively or spread over the “middle class” also—will do to unemployment?


15 posted on 05/26/2007 3:21:44 PM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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You need to research the implications of *amnesty*. Once the President signs this bill, the once *illegal* will immediately be *legal* and eligible for a variety of benefits. Don’t let this feel-good bill blind you to the facts and let it be known, this is the tip of a very large iceberg.
16 posted on 05/27/2007 6:35:45 AM PDT by wolfcreek (AMNESTY: See what BROWN can do for you..)
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To: wolfcreek

Even if tjose that are illegal now become legal, how long til they no longer want sub wages? They will move into higher paying jobs, vacating their present low wage paying jobs, leaving openings for a new influx of illegals to fill. So, even IF the latest scamnesty does add to the SS coffers, they money will soon be sucked up by the next generation of bloodsuckers.


17 posted on 05/27/2007 6:39:28 AM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
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To: wolfcreek

As the President says, the bill now under discussion in the Senate isn’t [only] an amnesty bill. It’s a bill to bankrupt the country lavishing social-welfare benefits on illegal border-jumpers and foreign criminals. A pure amnesty bill simply would legalize the status quo—illegal immigrants can work but cannot receive social-welfare benefits [unless they commit identity fraud]. We also desperately need to secure our southwestern border against the transnational criminal gangs who presently control it and the terrorists who now can infiltrate it with ease and connections in the Mexican underworld.


18 posted on 05/27/2007 6:50:15 AM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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