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Worst Experiences with Poison Ivy, Oak and Sumac?
June 14, 2007 | MississippiMasterpiece

Posted on 06/14/2007 5:01:50 AM PDT by MississippiMasterpiece

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To: MississippiMasterpiece

My girlfriend got poison ivy on her brain. The only way she could scratch it was to think about sandpaper. (S.Wright)


21 posted on 06/14/2007 5:18:32 AM PDT by AT7Saluki
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Spray the leaves to kill the plants.

Do NOT burn the stems as the smoke can carry the oils that can then get into your lungs where your next reaction will be bad.

Apparently deer like the leaves ?

Poison ivy oils can swell up your face, close your eyes...the oils travel well on dogs or clothing . Be careful.

Some are somehow immune ?


22 posted on 06/14/2007 5:19:07 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Tribune7
Yep! Bleach works very well, that’s my hubby’s remedy. He also scrapes the rash with a Popsicle stick before applying the bleach. Me, I’m a chicken to use this...hurts to much.
23 posted on 06/14/2007 5:21:02 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (I will respect illegal aliens civil rights, when they respect the sovereignty of the US!)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

I used to pick berries in the midst of poison oak. I am very sensitive to this stuff, but washing EVERYTHING once I was done (for my clothes and me, soap and water; for the berries, just lots of water) averted problems (after the first mis-hap). In those days, all we had was calomine lotion (not sure of the spelling) and baking soda baths, but I think they have better stuff today. And someone else mentioned chiggers—the soap and water helps get rid of them too.


24 posted on 06/14/2007 5:21:56 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
You can work out the details for yourself - just think...

deep woods - an insistent call of nature - no toilet paper - inattention to the leaves being grabbed...

25 posted on 06/14/2007 5:22:04 AM PDT by logos
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
Have you tried this technique for removal?

Note: Not recommended for use within 3 feet of the cabin...

26 posted on 06/14/2007 5:22:41 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: piperpilot

Soap didn’t make it worse for me. I think that’s an old wives tale or something. Plus it gets rid of the chiggers.


27 posted on 06/14/2007 5:24:48 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Since we have property and a second home in the Smokies, I am all too familiar with poison ivy. About 50 - 100 years ago, most of the land had been cleared for pig farms and subsistence farming. The regrowth over bare areas allowed a great deal of poison ivy to take root — literally.

From my experience, when I have to work in the woods/edges to keep our land and paths clear, I NEVER work outside for more than 30 minutes, and then hot-water launder my clothes, hose off my boots, gloves and face shield (I wear a hard hat with a face shield/screen for general protection from flying debris, saw briars, etc) and take a hot shower with a real soap - not Dove or similar.

The key is to get the poison ivy oil OFF your skin before the urushiol poison has time to bind with the skin. Despite rumors to the contrary, urushiol is a contact allergen/poison AND ONCE BOUND TO THE SKIN IT (the rash) DOES NOT spread due to itching the skin.

The reaction caused by poison ivy, urushiol-induced contact dermatitis, is an allergic reaction. In one extreme case I had on my forearms (winter-time stupidity stacking firewood with remains of poison Ivy vines not yet removed), I needed corticosteroids to treat the rashes and severe itching.

WRT to washing after exposure — The poison can be washed off within a **short time** after contact, but once bound to the skin, it cannot be washed away.

IT’s worth noting that the blisters and oozing result from blood vessels that develop gaps and leak fluid through the skin; if the skin is cooled, the vessels constrict and leak less. <— so getting hot enough to sweat exacerbates the outbreak, but sweating DOES NOT spread anything.


28 posted on 06/14/2007 5:24:58 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
Good info here


29 posted on 06/14/2007 5:27:18 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
Eat the stuff (Poison Ivy that is) to build up an immunity to it's affects.

Click here to find out how.
30 posted on 06/14/2007 5:28:36 AM PDT by dsmatuska (Pacifism is Evil's greatest ally.)
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To: Puddleglum
Also, when a kid, I was at a picnic and told by my parent to “just pee in those bushes over there.” You guess the result.

HAHA!! Same thing happened to me (I was about 7 years old). Our family was hiking in the woods. Parents told me to "pee in the bushes". I must have squatted right over poison ivy, because that's where it started. It spread everywhere - including inside my ears! I ended up at the doctors. Seem to remember he had to give me a shot of something, and I remember being plastered with calamine lotion. I avoid poison ivy at all costs!

31 posted on 06/14/2007 5:29:23 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
Since I seemed to be immune to the stuff, I took it upon myself to clear an area for a new house. I didn't even need gloves! I'd pull the roots and brush against the leaves, and no problem with the PI.

Then, shortly thereafter, I seemed to get it just a little bit. I kept pulling the stuff. Then I got it a bit more. I started using gloves, and got PI a bit more.

Nowadays, I seem to get PI upon any exposure. So, if you seem to have immunity, you can develop a reaction just the same with enough exposure.

32 posted on 06/14/2007 5:29:32 AM PDT by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: tm61

Went to a drive through animal park where the animals stick their heads inside the car and got it bad for at least two weeks. Everyone said cold water to me but they were wrong and you are right. My only relief came from the hot water.


33 posted on 06/14/2007 5:30:27 AM PDT by badpacifist (Touching the portal of infinite knowledge right now!)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
When my husband used to build swimming pools sometimes he would get poison ivy. He would just grab Chlorine and pour it on. If he didn’t have the liq he would use the powder kind and make a paste of it. Seemed to work for him and he doesn’t get it anymore.

My grandma used to take a wedge of watermelon & rub it over the infected area a few times and let the juice dry on the area, my mother swore it worked. They lived on a farm & someone always seemed to have it.

I use Vick's vapor rub for quite a few things & have heard it works on poison ivy. I know it works on itchy areas & bug bites. I would use disposable gloves while applying anything to the area. ~P~

34 posted on 06/14/2007 5:31:51 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

I have the same serious allergic reaction to all that stuff (except VA creeper, which is harmless).

My suggested solutions:

1. kill it. get a spray can (or 2 or 3) of Ortho Brush-B-Gone from a harware/Lowes/Home Depot, etc. and spray the leaves of all the poisonous plants. The leaves will wither and die AND the poison will go into the roots and kill them too. Don’t spray the VA creeper — eventually it will cover the area and inhibit return of the other “stuff.” After it’s safe to go farther from the path, repeat this process — necessary because the stuff spreads through its roots and it will try to come back from the healthy plants.

2. if you get the rash anyway, the quickest response is cortisone tabs (prescription — from dermatologist) — either as a Medrol dosepak (pricey) or generic cortisone tabs — get instructions from your dermatologist on how to make up your OWN dosepak (much cheaper). Don’t hurt yourself or catch a “bug” while on cortisone though — it suppresses your immune system (which has over-reacted to the “poisonous” plants and caused the rash/blisters).

Good luck!

-iMacMan


35 posted on 06/14/2007 5:35:06 AM PDT by iMacMan
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To: piperpilot

Regarding ‘soap spreads the oils’.

Let me offer an alternative thought —

First put all your clothes in the washer. Then ...

When you shower (NOT BATH!!! DO NOT TAKE A BATH!!) wash yourself purposefully and carefully from the elbows down to the tips of your fingers with soap and water, twice. THEN wash yourself from head down to feet. RINSE your face very well. Do this twice.

I would offer that it is critical to use soap as the urusoil is hydrophobic (doesn’t dissolve in water) and needs a surfactant/detergent to be adequately removed from the skin, fingernails, hair, etc.

The key is to get the oil OFF your skin before it binds to the skin, because then even the soap/bleach/ 100 grit won’t help.

Much like a surgical scrub, the key is the process of cleansing, strong soap, hot water — and lather rinse repeat— in time to get it off you.

Now start the washer, and clean your clothes with hot water wash and rinse.

FWIW, I safely and judiciously use a weed-eater/bush-whackerblade/ and bush-hog on my property to keep paths, road-sides and septic fields clear of brush, including poison ivy, and I have been poison-ivy dermatitis-free for four years now.

Just my opinion, based on good experiences and chemistry ;-)


36 posted on 06/14/2007 5:37:24 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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>>chiggers...I must have had 1000 bites my ankles and lower legs were solid. Most miserabl;e 3 weeks ever.<<

You ain't had nuthin' till the Georgia "noseeums" get on you. Hideous little gnats with bites like piranhas.

37 posted on 06/14/2007 5:39:47 AM PDT by evad
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Well, my mom was white water rafting once and during the lunch stop, went into the woods to pee. . . that is apparently not a fun place to get poison ivy.

Mythbusters had an episode in which they tested cures for poison ivy/oak. Apparently vodka does not work. The best solution was one the commercial rememdy they used.


38 posted on 06/14/2007 5:40:53 AM PDT by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

I’ll go dig up my Yma Sumac albums...shatter a few windowns in the house..


39 posted on 06/14/2007 5:40:57 AM PDT by ken5050
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Put a wet aspirin on a chigger bite. I hear that works until you can take a shower. I have never run into them but in my campground everyone else has . Some swear by a shower & then covering the area with Castor oil. Others say clear nail polish painted over the bites help . While others use Camphor oils. I just stay out of high grassy areas unless I am well covered.
40 posted on 06/14/2007 5:43:01 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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