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Must-see Mythology-ish Movies
CTV.CA ^ | 8/1/07 | Darren O'Donoghue

Posted on 08/01/2007 7:38:44 AM PDT by qam1

In honour of the release of "300" on DVD, we take a look back our favourite "oh-so-bad," from-the-'80s mythology-ish movies that we hate to love.

Long before Peter Jackson and his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy legitimized the genre, these movies dwelt somewhere between the A minus and B-movie grades and have since earned themselves cult status among a certain Gen-X cohort.

Let's be clear, we're not talking the overwrought sword and sandal variety such as "Gladiator" or "Troy," or those with long talkative sequences and fits and spurts of action, but those of the only decade in history in which they could have been produced - the over-the-top excessive 1980s.

While they do contain moments of mild winking-at-the audience-humour, generally the creators (big names like Wolfgang Peterson, Ron Howard and Terry Gilliam) of these movies took themselves so seriously, the results were a misplaced earnestness that we just can't help but laugh at. And, needless to say, time has not served them well.

Nestled in the years between the "Star Wars" effects advancements and the landmark Jurassic Park CGI achievements, their hokey heroes were surrounded by a medley of stop-motion animation, Henson-style puppetry and awkward costuming.

What follows is the best of the worst, those that made no attempt at tongue in cheek, or irony - just plain old fantasy flicks that were all filmic faux pas to the very last frame. Semi-mythological, semi-serious, fully pulped.......


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: genx
Movies in the list

Clash of the Titans (1981)
Dragonslayer (1981)
Time Bandits (1981)
Conan the Barbarian (1982)
Beastmaster (1982)
Sword and the Sorcerer (1982)
Krull (1983)
The Neverending Story (1984)
Legend (1985)
Willow (1988)

1 posted on 08/01/2007 7:38:46 AM PDT by qam1
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2 posted on 08/01/2007 7:40:29 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

What...no “Conan the Destroyer,” or “Red Sonja?”


3 posted on 08/01/2007 7:43:26 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: qam1

I remember Willow - my then-girlfriend had to keep nudging me to keep me from snoring too loudly.


4 posted on 08/01/2007 7:48:53 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: qam1
I'm embarrassed to say that I've seen almost all of these films -- with the exception of Beastmaster, Sword and Sworcerer, Neverending Story and Willow.

I don't think I'll ever be able to see Neverending Story at this point -- I don't think it could live up to the Family Guy gag, with Peter flying on the dragon. Once you've seen that, how could you ever watch the original film with a straight(ish) face?

5 posted on 08/01/2007 7:56:03 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: RepoGirl

Would Labyrinth fit in there???


6 posted on 08/01/2007 7:58:57 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (Darwin: Because Some People Were Not Meant to Breed.)
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To: qam1
A few years back I made a list of my one hundred favorite movies;
had to stop at around a hundred and fifty.
Just under half of these made it (and I'm not even 'Gen-X')
Some of the titles posted in response to the article also made it - Zardoz in particular.
7 posted on 08/01/2007 8:07:11 AM PDT by norton
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To: Shimmer128

Or The Princess Bride?


8 posted on 08/01/2007 8:07:29 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Shimmer128
Not sure about Labyrinth, but I don't see why not. Besides, it's elevated to cult/cool status because of David Bowie.

Time Bandits was a brilliant film (and I admit to sorta liking Legend because of Ridley Scott.)

9 posted on 08/01/2007 8:09:00 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: RepoGirl

You should definitely see Beastmaster, it’s so horrible it’s entertaining. I never saw Sword and Sorcerer. Saw Neverending Story and it’s horrid, certainly lives up to it’s title as it just goes on and on and on, it’s probably better with the Family Guy gag in mind. Willow was lame too. Actually most of the movies on the list are terrible, the real question is are they bad in an entertaining way.


10 posted on 08/01/2007 8:11:55 AM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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To: RepoGirl

The Neverending Story lived up to it’s name in that it never seemed to end and you couldn’t figure out what was going on

But how did you miss Beastmaster? Up to a few years ago, it was always on some channel somewhere. TBS in particular, it seemed the only thing on that channel would be a Braves Game, Wrestling or Beastmaster.


11 posted on 08/01/2007 8:14:40 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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Beastmaster always scared me. The concept, the costumes, and the fact that my best friend from seventh grade until senior year was in love with Marc Singer.

I did, however, have a brush with Beastmaster about 4 years ago. Several of my friends are hipster comic geeks, and once dragged me and my husband along to a comic convention. Marc Singer was one of the celebrity guests, and he all but fell in love with my then six month old daughter. He and my husband discussed vaccinations, autism and various other parent related things. He was still really creepy.

Yeah, most of the films on this list are terrible, with the exception of Time Bandits.

12 posted on 08/01/2007 8:20:37 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: RepoGirl

I can see how stone age cloths and 80s haircuts might scare a person. But it really is a fun retarded movie, skip the sequels though, they’re just retarded without being fun.


13 posted on 08/01/2007 8:24:25 AM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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To: Shimmer128
Would Labyrinth fit in there???

My first thought also was that Labrynth belongs on that list.

Dark Crystal perhaps?

14 posted on 08/01/2007 8:30:44 AM PDT by Chipper
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To: discostu

Okay, I’m trusting you, here. I’ll check the film out (actually, I think my hubby might already have a copy.) Is it as good as the Australian tv show that came out a few years back?


15 posted on 08/01/2007 8:31:59 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: RepoGirl

I never actually saw the TV series, I kind of skipped that whole bad fantasy on TV movement (saw very little Xena, almost no Hercules and no Beastmaster), I was getting burned out on genre when it started and by the time I came back it was over. So I can’t compare it, but the movie is fun in a pleasant stupid way, just make sure you turn off your higher brain functions first.


16 posted on 08/01/2007 8:38:19 AM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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To: RepoGirl

For some reason, before I knew their names I could have swore Marc Singer, MacGyver and Kevin Bacon were all the same guy. So just think of Marc Singer as MacGyver with Kevin Bacon’s voice.

The creepiest custom in Beastmaster is worn by the father from Good Times who wears a G-String throughout the movie


17 posted on 08/01/2007 8:39:06 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

Flash Gordon (1980)


18 posted on 08/01/2007 8:43:21 AM PDT by monkfan
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To: qam1
Marc Singer as MacGuyver with Kevin Bacon's voice... in a fur loin cloth and Motley Crue hair... gotcha...

John Amos ... in a g-string. Oh. My. God.

"Florida!"

19 posted on 08/01/2007 8:44:28 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: monkfan

Savior of the Universe edition out on DVD Tuesday, new show starts on Sci-Fi the following Friday.


20 posted on 08/01/2007 8:48:48 AM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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To: Malacoda
I'll second that, and add the greatest B movie of all time: Barbarian Queen, starring Lana Clarkson, who was murdered by Phil Spector.

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21 posted on 08/01/2007 9:08:09 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: qam1

If you go back further you would find several hercules movies staring Steve reeves, also the Sinbad series. By todays standards they are hokey but in their time they were quite good.


22 posted on 08/01/2007 9:12:43 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: RepoGirl
John Amos ... in a g-string. Oh. My. God.

"Florida!"

Heh. Dy-no-mite!

How about that movie "LadyHawk" with Mathew Broderick? Wasn't Rutger Hauer in that too?

23 posted on 08/01/2007 9:13:00 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (For evil to win, it is only necessary for Jimmy Carter to be considered a role model.)
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To: qam1

The only statement I can make about Mark Singer is “ He doesn’t have an acting bone in his body”.


24 posted on 08/01/2007 9:18:33 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: discostu

Thanks for the tip. I’ll be sure to catch the pilot. Let’s just hope it’s more like “Battlestar Galactica” and less like “Jake 2.0”. :)


25 posted on 08/01/2007 9:20:41 AM PDT by monkfan
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To: qam1
but those of the only decade in history in which they could have been produced - the over-the-top excessive 1980s.

I'm confused, was this some thinly-veiled attempt to blame Reagan for these movies?

26 posted on 08/01/2007 9:22:34 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: monkfan

From what I can tell, not much info yet, it seems to be following in the footsteps of the 1980 movie. I can distinctly hear the Queen theme song in the background during the commercial. Which I think is good, I think Flash Gordon always worked best with tongue in cheek. But only time (10 days to be specific) will tell.


27 posted on 08/01/2007 9:24:06 AM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

Oh yeah! I remember that film — don’t think I saw it all the way through. Rutgar Hauer is always fun. Wasn’t he a wolf by day, and his girlfriend was a hawk by night?


28 posted on 08/01/2007 9:32:38 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: qam1

Jason and the Argonauts (1963)

Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger (1977) (Jane Seymour ‘nough said)


29 posted on 08/01/2007 9:55:53 AM PDT by Lost Dutchman ("Weep for the future Na'Toth, Weep for us all." (G'Kar-Babylon 5))
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To: qam1

Excalibur (1981)
Flesh+Blood (1985)
Hawk the Slayer (1980)
LadyHawke (1985)
Lionheart (1987)
Red Sonja (1985)
Sword of the Valiant: The Legend of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight (1984) — the greatest movie of this genre. I can’t believe they missed it. Sean Connery as The Green Knight is so great.
The Navigator: A Mediaeval Odyssey (1988)


30 posted on 08/01/2007 11:15:04 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Lost Dutchman

Must be from the 80s.


31 posted on 08/01/2007 11:15:39 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: qam1
Or The Princess Bride?

I have a son and a daughter who are adults now. Starting in about middle school the two of them watched "The Princess Bride" and "Labyrinth" about a million times. They had memorized every word.

In high school they used to gather their friends together for a night of food, drink, food, drink (you know teenagers) and watching these two movies. With the whole crowd repeating every line of the script along with the actors/actresses.

They wore tapes out repeatedly.

I bought them on DVD for my son's 29th birthday - he was thrilled.

32 posted on 08/01/2007 12:35:17 PM PDT by Roses0508
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To: qam1

Clash of the Titans (1981)
Dragonslayer (1981)
Time Bandits (1981)
Conan the Barbarian (1982)
Beastmaster (1982)
Sword and the Sorcerer (1982)
Krull (1983)
The Neverending Story (1984)
Legend (1985)
Willow (1988)

hah.. that reads like a list of my favourite movies!


33 posted on 08/01/2007 1:51:36 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: RepoGirl

she was an owl, and i think she was animal in the day, him by night.


34 posted on 08/01/2007 1:54:45 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: absolootezer0

oops.. not owl.. i’m thinking something else.


35 posted on 08/01/2007 1:55:22 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: qam1
It's inconceivable that "Princess Bride" is not on the list.

I know--talkative. But, as you wish.

36 posted on 08/01/2007 2:00:09 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Down with Mel Martinez)
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To: qam1

We watched Clash of the Titans last night....
creepy getting this ping this morning... strange coincidence...


37 posted on 08/01/2007 2:50:45 PM PDT by LibertyGrrrl (http://www.conservativepunk.com)
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To: qam1

What? No “Princess Bride”?


38 posted on 08/01/2007 2:53:38 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: monkfan
Flash Gordon (1980)

I loved that movie. I still have the soundtrack...on vinyl baby!

39 posted on 08/01/2007 4:49:26 PM PDT by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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I don’t know much about collectables, but I would hang on to that for awhile.


40 posted on 08/02/2007 10:45:18 AM PDT by monkfan
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To: Lost Dutchman

My first thought was Jason and the Argonauts, which is the king of ‘em all IMHO, walking skeletons and all, if we’re talking about mythological movies!


41 posted on 08/02/2007 11:16:00 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: qam1
Fantasy has to win the award for Worst Genre. There are SO many bad fantasy films, and very few great ones.

In terms of mythological fantasy, Clash of the Titans had some OK sets but was weak, Dragonslayer has great dragon scenes but is overrated for trying to be a revisionist fantasy, Time Bandits is a very entertaining (and dark) Terry Gilliam movie, Conan the Barbarian is one of those mixtures of great stuff and cheese that is just SO entertaining, Beastmaster is fine if you're a homosexual who digs half-naked guys who look like aliens, Sword and the Sorcerer was just gawdawful and boring, Krull is one of those movies that has so many bits stolen from other movies that you can practically see the stitiching holding this mess together, The Neverending Story deserves to be considered a children's classic, Legend was a mistake from the start (the original script was more epic and darker) made worse by jettisoning Jerry Goldsmith's great musical score and hacking scenes out and Willow is colorful garbage.

Conan, Krull, the European cut of Legend,Beastmaster and Willow all have terrific scores, though.

42 posted on 08/03/2007 12:39:40 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (PRO-FRED (Use all caps--it bugs the Fred-haters ;))
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